General Policing Discussions

Being slightly bored in isolation I got thinking earlier how a few years ago I personally felt like Policing was going to improve, rightly or wrongly I felt there was a sense something had to give and the police were going to get more support. MPs were taking note of Police assaults, PM announced 20K “new” officers and I felt like people were fed up with knife crime and organised criminal gangs. In the last 18 months quite the reverse seems to have happened. The actions of a few evil and idiotic officers, lockdown laws and the BLM movement seems to put the Police in a very weak prediction. In short, one one knows what the future holds but wou…

What do officers think of this new platform that has come about, RateOurPolice - They own RateOurCops.org and now the latest RateOurOfficers.org which handles UK officers by crowdsourcing reviews. The development team seems to be quite enthusiastic. Quite an ingenious idea, on of the developers is an ex GCHQ Crypto specialist and has design a number of state of the art A.i algorithms that seems to exceed what the UK Govt is able to come up with. An intelligent system that uses varied factors to grade police based on their conduct by analysing reviews and information posted in the public domain. They utilised web3.0 standards and the blockchain to …

Merry Christmas all, the lunch is simmering away and I've a few minutes wanted to ask something. While the vast majority of us have the day off, there's some including the emergency services that can't and I imagine some of you will have worked a Christmas Day before. Do you find it any different to a regular shift? Are people more kinder because it's the season of goodwill or are they more annoyed that you've disturbed their day? Any interesting stories from a Christmas shift?

From what I understand when a device is seized it's turned off and then only examined inside a faraday cage to prevent this, but it seems that sometimes devices are remotely wiped while in custody https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29464889 The general agreement seems to be that doing this would (understandably) fall under perverting the course of justice. But looking at the points to prove, I'm not sure how that would be established. For perverting the course of justice you need to have someone does an act or series of acts; which has or have a tendency to pervert; and which is or are intended to pervert; the course of public j…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_TV4GuXFoA Neil Woods spent 14 years as an undercover police officer infiltrating some of the most dangerous organized crime groups in the UK. He speaks to Insider about his experience with drug dealing gangs, and how the drug market works. It's interesting to see how organized some of these people are, how much effort is put into running an efficient and profitable criminal enterprise. You could easily see certain dealers being quite successful legitimate businessmen if circumstances were different. Woods supports regulation of the drug markets as he feels that will take away the power from the gangs.

I was wondering... There's no (to the best of my knowledge) set format for court exhibits. Most seem to use the IJ/1 style of reference, but I know that Hampshire tend to use a more elaborate system with sub-references (eg for snippets of redacted BWV footage). I wondered what was used in your force? Is it dictated by the force or are you free to use what you wish?

I've been following the situation in Austria quite closely and it all looks quite grim. They were going to have a lockdown for the unvaccinated only, and some parts of the armed forces and police said they would refuse to enforce it principle, that it crosses a line and it isnt the kind of thing they signed up to do. Now the government is talking about making vaccination outright mandatory in law. For me thats really concerning. Medical procedures should be a free choice. I dont like the vaccine passport system either but at least theres still technically a choice, but it seems Austria now wants to outright make it a crime to refuse the jab. How would you feel about …

Does anyone know much about 'key worker housing', with regards to the police. Is there much actually offered to people? I am looking at places to rent in the SW of England now, (normal or key worker), but don't really understand what key worker is. Do any forces still help with accommodation (out of training), or do they signpost you on or just leave you to it? I often see these phrases on websites etc, but never met anyone who has used them and wonder if anyone could shed some light. It is a bit of a nightmare trying to rent somewhere before you join the force and likewise trying to police and then find a home is not ideal...

Hello all, I am currently a police officer in the met and have really been struggling to get on a response course. I am aware that there are some external places where people can do a level 3 response course. I was just wondering if anyone knows where I could do an external driving course (willing to fund this myself) and if it would be valid within the met. many thanks

I can see that there is now a very strange theme in GB of not many police stations (or equivalent, post in a Council building) etc and a strange mix of lack of custody suites, enquiry offices etc. Does this matter that much? I drive through villages regularly which still have the old police houses in, but no cops obviously anymore. It is a very unpopular move amongst public getting rid of stock, some of it is probably the right choice, but does it make a difference on the ground? Most areas now only see police responding to an event (criminal or otherwise) and not doing community work, let alone patrols. It seems worse in some areas. I'm lucky in …

I thought that this might be a time for a discussion about less-lethal I've been watching the new Channel 5 series (Code Zero: Officers Under Attack) and it seems assaults are now very bad on officers and PCSOs. It seems that PAVA/CS seems OK, but seems to cross-contaminate everybody. Batons seem next to useless as you seem to have to get close to use it and then it doesn't seem that effective. And that's it for most of them. Astonishing! Taser seems the best of the the three, but lots of them don't have it. They also seem to have to wait until probation is up. Lots of the officers featured are probationers getting battered ... So, why are not Tasers i…

Seen this quite a few times and wondered what people think about it. To me it seems a bit unprofessional, a bit too "casual". Not a big problem though as long as the suspect is treated fairly, and in fairness it's a lot politer than some of the names the suspect calls them What do you prefer using when addressing people daily? Are your more or less casual with suspects than with witnesses?

Hello, so below is a tale of woe that no doubt people have heard dozens of times but any guidance or thoughts would help, (details are vague as I'd rather no one being able to work out who I am) So I joined the police very young but it was a dream job for me, it's all I'd wanted to do it since i was a kid although unlike most I could never see myself doing any one job for 30/40 years so I never went in being what I'd call job p...... I got 5 years in, a real rollercoaster, some fantastic achievements & experiences but a lot of down points, towards the end, despite being under no illusion the job would be easy, I had the following feelings -Bitterness …

Evening All, I have seen a number of topics and threads dotted about that make reference to mock KEEs and whitepapers, some making reference to 'Steve' at BATC. Whilst I have my own set of study/revision notes, I would like to have a shot at some mock exams. The BATC website seems to have been taken down some time ago, though I wonder if anyone has some of the material or a means of making contact with Steve? I have found an email address on a cached version of the BATC website and even if an email address cannot be provided, would be grateful if someone could confirm/deny whether the email address is still in use. TIA.