General Policing Discussions

Obviously PSD will have files on officers. Is there anyway we can request a copy of this on file? (E.g list of complaints, outcomes, potentially intel they have had). I know we can access HR records. (Posted this few weeks ago but deleted due to putting too much info on post)

Greetings all, Would really appreciate comments on the decision of the PCSO to stay in the property after witnessing the Katan's and RIF's in the premises, regardless of the occupants demeanour, also unhappy about his handling the weapons without gloves. Correct me if I am wrong because policy may differ from place to place, but weapons assessments are conducted by AFO's, why is there a PCSO attending, no BWV, no support... Very worrying. Just my two cents, I am happy to be told my thought process is wrong, but the NDM wheel came off on this one a long time ago for me.

Would it count as directed surveillance under RIPA to look at a suspects social media account to gather intelligence on their activities? By looking at their social media I mean just looking at what they publicly posted? What if they restricted it to friends and you created an account and added them as a friend just to get access?

Really interested to know your experiences of paying into and using the Physio facilities at Flint House or the Police Treatment Centres in Harrogate and Scotland. There’s various ways of paying into them either through payroll, direct debit and via local Fed. Flint House has an outstanding reputation but I understand is busy, the Police Rehab Centres I hear are just as good but it’s apparently not easy to get a referral unless you’re willing to travel.

I'm interested in hearing the views of police officers who can give their view on it from the perspective of law enforcement. What do you think about Edward Snowden and his disclosures about surveillance/spying? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program) His argument is that this level of surveillance is wrong, and the public deserve to know about it so they can have a discussion about what levels of surveillance we are willing to accept. My personal opinion is that the security services have got the balance wrong. If I send an email to a friend, I think it's reasonable to expect that email remain…

Saw this matter being touched on in another thread. On average how many malicious complaints do you get a year? And what are the motivations, do people make them just to be difficult or is there a strategic element where they think it will help their own case if they attack the officers credibility?

Good afternoon all. It’s been a long time since I’ve been on here. Not in the job any more and haven’t been for a while. I want to get back into investigations and was wondering if anyone had gone down the Trainee Investigator route with a police service. Hampshire police are recruiting at the moment and it’s something I’m interested in. I don’t want to be stuck on PIP1 forever and just want to know if PIP2 is even a realistic proposition. Thanks as always.

Has anyone heard of someone suing the IOPC for wrongful prosecution? I mean who makes sure they are doing their job properly, it seems like they are a law to themselves.

I've come across this question on another site and it piqued my interest. https://law.stackexchange.com/q/72592/35069 It's said to be a real-life scenario which is off limits here so I'll ask a similar but entirely hypothetically question... A car intends to make a right turn in to a side road which is 40 meters before a blind bend. The road ahead is clear when the manoeuvre begins but the car stalls in the oncoming lane and is then hit by oncoming traffic. I've limited knowledge, and no direct experience, of how RTA related offences of this sort are normally dealt with by Traffic but I guess the oncoming vehicle is at fault by not stopping or takin…

With BWV being so widely utilised by the Police in England and Wales, when members of the public, or suspects, make formal complaints against officers or post allegations on publicly available social media, which are demonstrably and unequivocally proven to be lies through BWV (or CCTV, 3rd party recordings etc), should the officers directly involved be allowed to sue for defamation in civil court and should the CC of each force be allowed to pursue legal action against the liars on behalf of the force? As I never used BWC in Scotland, when I transferred down south, I absolutely loved the idea of them both in terms of capturing best evidence, but also, to be able to …

Bit of a random one but figured it'd be worth discussing. I'm sure we're all now well aware of 'Police auditing' and whilst my general reaction in dealing with them would be not to give them the time of day and simply ignore such groups I've noticed a trend where many really are pushing the boundaries of acceptable conduct and actively trespassing on police locations to try and cause a scene or disturbance, they're then refusing to leave when requested to do so. Trespass at commom law is a civil matter but a land owner or agent can use reasonable force in a persons removal... However in my mind this isn't ideal so I got thinking about this, on the railway this…

Hi, I've just collected all my Level 2 public order kit, what's the best way to pack everything in? Plus any tips regarding the kit. Cheers.

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I came across a rather intriguing thing about American law recently. They are required to declare and pay tax on all income including money gained from illegal activity. Some people have successfully argued in court that if someone has an illegal source of income, being forced by law to confess that fact to a government agency violates their 5th Amendment right against self incrimination. As a result they now have a sort of compromise process, where as long as you declare any illegal income, the IRS is satisfied and will not alert the authorities to the fact you've committed a crime. The whole thing seems rather surreal and I am picturing mafia dons hard at work filling o…

Can police constables work off-duty in the UK (as a constable, not moonlighting as anything else) or is that strictly prohibited by law? I know that quite a few cops work off-duty, but am wondering whether private work is allowed, such as at large events, working as private security/private police? It is an interesting idea, but I genuinely don't know whether it's caught on in the UK.