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  2. IrateShrike

    Crime Recording standards in your Force

    I'm glad you agree it's fine because disagreement is all I've seen expressed in this discussion. I haven't seen anyone saying they would actually intentionally go against the rules no matter how outrageous.
  3. SimonT

    Crime Recording standards in your Force

    Unfortunately this is something you will have to make your peace with. We have be to record crime, we have to follow the guidance on exactly how to do so. To disagree and rail against it is fine, to not do so is a short road to dismissal. I have colleagues who refused to crime things, in contravention of the rules. They lost their jobs. The criminal justice system is broken, damaged and only partly functional. Crime recording is but one tiny piece. Crime it, file it, get on with helping people.
  4. Jack McCoy

    Crime Recording standards in your Force

    Yes they are. My objection extends to include all faulty crime recording standards, not just recording crimes where one either hasn't been established, or is clearly impossible to have transpired. Our job should be to record crimes that we can established to have occurred, and to record them as accurately as possible given the evidence. If not, crime data means nothing. It detracts from the real issues in our society faces and we will never target the real causes. When someone believes a crime has happened, based on nothing more than their own personal opinion, we shouldn't be recording. When someone believes a crime has occurred but in fact, legally, the elements of a crime are clearly absent, we shouldn't be recording. I have personally provided numerous examples, as have other contributors to the topic. We have a duty to focus our time and efforts on HELPING people and the community. We do not help people by allowing them to delude themselves into thinking they are the victim of harassment or a hate crime because a random motorist honked at them twice at a set of traffic lights. Maybe this person suffers from a mental health issue that we are not addressing by allowing them to retain the self-victimising delusion that people are after them. Instead of that person getting the help they require to tackle the underlying issue, we are allowing them to convince themselves that they 're of a perfectly sound mind and thinking clearly. We aren't helping people when we victimise them by recording their details on our systems under the threat of arrest when a crime clearly has not transpired. We lose their trust and confidence and we become a tool with which petty people try to settle personal scores and vendettas. We waste all this time on non-crimes when REAL crimes are going undetected and criminals unchallenged, free to keep on committing crimes because we simply do not have the numbers to tackle both real crimes and imaginary crimes. I genuinely cannot see how anyone can argue against accurate and real crime recording standards. Yes I appreciate in the past most, if not all, Forces would only record what and when they felt like it, but surely that is an issue best tackled by closer scrutiny rather than just carte blanche recording of everything reported to us, regardless of the circumstances.
  5. Three Albanian men have been remanded on suspicion of plotting to supply half a million pounds’ worth of cocaine, assaulting NCA officers and having false identity documents. Denis Markeci, 29, and Endri Cena, 26, are accused of possession with intent to supply class A drugs and assaulting three officers when they were arrested on Friday at a property in Britton Gardens, Bristol. They were also charged with possessing false identity documents along with Dorian Zili, 25. The property was searched and false identity documents were found including four Italian and two Romanian identity cards, and illicit bank cards. The men, of no fixed abode, were remanded at Bristol Magistrates’ Court to appear at the city’s crown court on 3 January 2020. Phil Pestridge, NCA operations manager, said: “The relentless pursuit of individuals and groups involved in trafficking class A drugs is a focus for the National Crime Agency. “We’re determined to do all we can to disrupt organised crime groups who are fuelled by greed, and in doing so cause serious harm to our society. “This joint activity with the South West Regional Organised Crime Unit shows the benefits of close working relationships in tackling serious organised crime.” 11 December 2019 View the full article
  6. Two Irish nationals have been charged with conspiring to import class A and B drugs, conspiracy to import prohibited weapons and money laundering, as part of a National Crime Agency investigation. Gary Vickery, 36, of Tamworth, Staffordshire, and Daniel Canning, 41, from Walkinstown, Dublin, were arrested by NCA officers yesterday (Tuesday 10 December) in Staffordshire. The allegations relate to a seizure of cannabis and cocaine at Dover in October 2017 and the subsequent recovery of a firearm at a property in the West Midlands. The pair were charged with conspiracy to import class A and B drugs, conspiracy to import prohibited weapons (firearms), possession of firearms and ammunition for sale or transfer, and money laundering. They will appear at Cannock Magistrates’ Court on 10 January 2020. A third man who was also arrested remains in custody for questioning. The investigation is being supported by law enforcement partners in Ireland and internationally. NCA branch operations manager Tudor Thomas said: “This investigation has involved close co-operation with our colleagues at An Garda Síochána, and these charges mark an important development in that. “We are determined to work together to target suspected organised criminality impacting communities on both sides of the Irish sea. “The investigation continues.” Assistant Commissioner, John O’Driscoll who heads Special Crime Operations within the Garda Síochána said: “The Garda Síochána has forged a very powerful working relationship with the UK’s National Crime Agency, which is assisting in ensuring that communities in the UK and Ireland are better protected from organised crime”. 11 December 2019 View the full article
  7. Yesterday
  8. BlueBob

    General Election 2019

    Can’t recall if it was BoJo or Corbin that said they’d making it a serious offence for MPs to lie and/or deceive the public’s etc etc. I wonder if that would apply to their manifesto promises. The NHS, justice, teachers, elderly, young etc have been promised to be solved by every party since I got the vote. We are still no closer to solving a single one of them. I agree with democracy and will vote but alas it seems more likely my vote will give a to55er a job rather than solve any of their promises
  9. A convicted online child sex offender and his partner have been found guilty of sexually abusing two boys and an unknown male. In March 2018 Richard Townsend, 57, was given a two-year jail sentence suspended for two years after admitting encouraging the distribution of indecent images and making indecent images of children. A National Crime Agency investigation proved Townsend used a child sex offenders’ online conferencing room and had 158 indecent images of children (IIOC), 38 at the worst category, on his electronic devices. NCA officers launched a parallel investigation after uncovering a home-made video believed to be shot by Townsend, an accountant, of his partner Mark Metcalfe, 56, sexually abusing an unknown male who an expert witness said was 15 at most. After Townsend was charged in the first investigation into his online offending, two victims came forward to report the non-recent abuse. Today at Southampton Crown Court, Townsend and Metcalfe, both of Copsewood Road, Southampton, were convicted of 14 charges and three charges respectively. The indictment covers the years 1996 to 2006. It is believed each boy was abused for several years; one from age 11 to 15, the other age 13 to 16. After a three-week trial, Townsend was convicted of counts including rape, indecent assault, indecency with a child and assault by penetration. Metcalfe was convicted of two sexual assaults and one indecent assault. The pair will be sentenced on Thursday. Also, during the initial investigation, NCA officers discovered online chat records in which Townsend told someone he was sexually abusing a boy. When asked: “Do you get 2 see him a lot?” He replied: “Luck, patience n planning :)” NCA operations manager Graham Ellis said: “This is a deeply harrowing case. “It takes immense courage to come forward, and the victims in this case have been incredibly brave in doing so. “The NCA and our law enforcement partners are relentless in our pursuit of child sex offenders whose actions wreck so many lives. “We have no greater priority than protecting children from sexual abuse.” The Lucy Faithfull Foundation runs the Stop It Now! helpline, which offers confidential advice to anyone concerned about their own or someone else’s behaviour towards children. If you are concerned a crime has been committed against a child contact your local police. For advice on child safety visit Thinkuknow.co.uk. 10 December 2019 View the full article
  10. A civil servant who was arrested for online child sexual abuse offences twice went on to commit more offences while on bail. Press officer Richard Arcari, 37, was arrested and bailed in February 2017 by Metropolitan Police officers who received intelligence he had watched an online video of a man raping a boy and had offered to swap videos with other offenders. When he was arrested his iPad was seized and it contained hundreds of child abuse videos and images. On 7 March 2018 National Crime Agency officers investigating an online conferencing room where child abuse was streamed arrested Arcari, who used the identity ‘FitPrvUK’. Arcari, of Kings Avenue, Clapham, had acquired a new Hewlett Packard laptop which also contained hundreds of abuse images. He told investigators he visited the conferencing room to watch male pornography but could not remember what he’d viewed or streamed because of his use of crystal meth. Just 17 days later NCA officers searched his home again after discovering he was using the conferencing room under the new name TabBoy which he used to comment on abuse images while they were streamed. NCA officers recovered another Hewlett Packard laptop and an iPhone which both contained child sexual abuse material. On 6 September 2018 Arcari’s employer Defra – the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs – notified the NCA that during a routine security check they discovered an unauthorised memory stick had been inserted with file titles indicative of indecent images of children. NCA officers searched his home again and Arcari handed over a SanDisk USB and Defra supplied his laptop. Both contained more abuse content. In total, Arcari had 716 category A (the most serious) stills and videos, 588 category B stills and videos and 344 category C stills and videos. Arcari pleaded guilty to 22 charges including making indecent images of children, possessing extreme pornographic images, possessing class A drugs and intentionally encouraging or assisting the commission of an either way offence. Today, at Inner London Crown Court he was jailed for 42 months, put on the sex offenders register indefinitely and given a sexual harm prevention order restricting his use of the internet. NCA operations manager Graham Ellis said: “The evidence showed Arcari was visiting online conference rooms to watch child abuse from as long ago as November 2015. “Even when he had been arrested and was on bail he continued to offend. “Every time footage is replayed or an image reshared, that child is revictimised. “There is no greater priority for us than protecting children.” The scale and severity of offending against children are worsening. The NCA and UK police arrest around 500 child sex offenders a month and safeguard about 700 children a month. Child Protection Charity The Lucy Faithfull Foundation runs the Stop It Now! helpline which offers confidential advice to anyone concerned about their own or someone else’s behaviour towards children. If you are concerned a crime has been committed against a child contact your local police. For advice on child safety visit Thinkuknow.co.uk. 10 December 2019 View the full article
  11. Letting someone use your bank account to move money is money laundering is the message to students in the weeks before Christmas when it might seem an easy way to earn money. Earlier this year, 95 bank accounts – containing more than £3 million – were frozen by UK law enforcement coordinated by the National Economic Crime Centre. Access to the money was denied and investigations undertaken because it was suspected that some or all of the funds were linked to money laundering. To date approximately £1 million of this money has been forfeited following court hearings. The majority of the accounts frozen belonged to international students studying in the UK. Further investigation found that the overseas students, complicit or not, were targeted and used as ‘money mules’ to launder funds through UK accounts. The NECC is now targeting students through social media over the next week as they head back home for the Christmas break. NECC Head of Operations Matt Bradford said: “Allowing someone to use your bank account for a cut may seem like an easy way to earn some money over Christmas and New Year but it has consequences. “Banks have systems to identify this activity, they will report to the police or take their own action. “Although these messages are targeted towards students, their parents and university staff – it is important to remember anyone can become involved in this. Acting as a money mule is money laundering, a crime, and can happen with or without the account holder’s knowledge. “This can lead to problems getting credit, a bank account, a phone contract, and at worst a criminal record which could impact on the career students are working so hard to achieve.” Alongside awareness messaging the NECC has been working with financial institutions to better identify this method of money laundering as it happens. Katy Worobec, Managing Director of Economic Crime at UK Finance, said: “No matter what age you are, we urge you not to give your bank account details to anyone unless you know and trust them. Letting your bank account be used to transfer money given to you by someone else makes you a money mule and when you’re caught your bank account will be closed. “The banking industry works closely with law enforcement to identify, arrest and charge those criminal gangs responsible for recruiting money mules and to raise awareness amongst susceptible groups.” Further advice can be found at www.moneymules.co.uk Anyone with information about this method of money laundering can contact Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111. The National Economic Crime Centre (NECC) is hosted by the National Crime Agency. The NECC is made up of partners including the National Crime Agency, HM Revenue and Customs, Crown Prosecution Service, Home Office, Serious Fraud Office, City of London Police and the Financial Conduct Authority. 10 December 2019 View the full article
  12. Sceptre

    Owed leave

    "If, on termination of service, the proportion of annual leave taken by a member in the last year of service is less than the proportion of the leave year which has passed, s/he is entitled to payment in lieu of the untaken days. Conversely if, on termination of service, the proportion of annual leave taken by the member exceeds that proportion of the leave year which has expired, the police authority are entitled to compensation, whether by payment, additional service, or otherwise. For further details of the calculations involved please see PNB Circular 01/2, Home Office Circular 21/2002 and Regulation 33, Annex O of Police Regulations 2003." Link pp36-37 Also see page A27 here for how it's worked out.
  13. Zulu 22

    General Election 2019

    Then why would Corbyn want to take us back to the days of destruction from within when Unions would run the Country?
  14. MajorDisaster

    Owed leave

    Ask you payroll department. I'd not be surprised, though if they say 'if you resign, you lose the lot'.
  15. Reasonable Man

    General Election 2019

    This arguments comes from the same view as the idea of Brexit will take us back to the good times before the U.K. joined the EU. The world is a much different place than it was in the 1970s. No mass Union membership in traditional working class industries.
  16. A police officer who clashed with Sports Direct staff over a basketball has been accused of bullying and abusing his position https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/police-officer-accused-abusing-position-3627018.amp
  17. Jeebs

    Owed leave

    May be leaving current force for pastures greener. Could anyone confirm that owed leave should be payed, along with MRDs? I have 190hrs and 6 MRDs owed, which by my calculations, at top whack is between £5-6k. Due to staffing, I will be unable to take any of this prior to leaving, as I’ll be giving 28days on the button.
  18. It's much easier to blame immigration for things rather than being a competent government and running the country. Luckily immigrants are responsible for 90% of climate change so when they get kicked out, it's straight bananas and sunshine for all.
  19. Kind of. I cut a branch of the family off for jingoistic sh**wads. They're voting for Boris because he'll get rid of the people that don't look like them. It seems looking like a thumb is a sign of racial purity.
  20. MindTheGap

    Crime allocation between agencies

    We had a bloke with a Stun Gun and a large quantity of cannabis arrive in a port on our area, BF stopped him and seized it and arrested him. BF promptly phoned us to convey, present, interview and investigate. When we arrived the arresting officer basically launched into the facts and circs and it turned into a staylemate with the DP stood there in disbelief and handcuffs! Thankfully we managed to speak to their Senior Officer who was working elsewhere who told her teams to take the DP to our custody and deal. The OIC told me (we did provide transport for them) he'd not booked someone in since his days in HMRC, circa 2004... Their argument was that the stun gun was 'more serious' and they wanted us to deal on that basis. The port in question has interview rooms and a custody area (3 cells) and for their purposes is designated, they just don't staff it with custody officers etc so couldn't use it.
  21. It's fine, if you start goosestepping and waving your right hand in the air they give you a free black shirt and a can of stella.
  22. Don’t go arguing against the anti-forrins rhetoric using facts. Next you’ll be arguing against what 17.4 million people voted for.
  23. Last week
  24. The largest load on the NHS for time and money is the over 65s. Disproportionately so in fact. It isn't "Heath tourists", this 'problem" only accounts for 0.3% of NHS funding at last check by the current government. That cash is the stuff the government (Not the hospitals) choose not to pursue for payment. We can charge people for stuff, we just don't tend to. Compare that to 40% spent on the over 65s. Most of who will take out FAR more than they actually paid in the pot in the first place, while people who are from other countries will tend to leave the UK when they retire and go "home" after contributing to the pot for years. I like the NHS, it's isn't perfect but it has until recently worked pretty well. It saved the life of my wife and daughter, for procedures that in total would have been in excess of USD$500,000 (US friend had the same problems).
  25. If the Tories/Brexit Party get it there won’t be the option for Americans to come here for free treatment as we will all be on a level playing field and paying as much for our health care as they do. Need an ambulance? Only if you’ve got £250 in your back pocket.
  26. That remark smacks of a rather nasty remark. It has also been reported that the boy did not have pneumonia 6 situation was engineered and that the boy did not have pneumonia but had a heavy cold and tonsillitis and did not need to at end hospital. Now I do not know the full, true facts but does it not appear to be very convenient. It has also been pointed out that tonight's Party Political broadcast on behalf of the Labour party was deceitful. It featured an American, backing Labour over the NHS. He came to this country 5 years ago because of treatment he could get, fir him and his family. He could not pay for private treatment in the USA, so he came to the UK to take advantage of a system that he had not contributed to. Our health service is under omens pressure from health tourism abusing our Health Service. We have over a period of time had a huge increase in our population to such an extent that it has put, OUR, National Health Service under such pressure.
  27. In all fairness, he wouldn’t look at any picture of a child so that he has plausible deniability in case it was ever alleged that it might be his.
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