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  2. Prince Philip A149 crash road speed limit 'to be reduced' 18 January 2019 Media playback is unsupported on your device Media captionThe BBC's Nicholas Witchell says the Duke regularly drives in the Sandringham area The speed limit on the stretch of road where the Duke of Edinburgh was involved in a car crash is expected to be reduced at a council meeting later. Prince Philip, 97, was not injured in the crash on the A149 near the Queen's Sandringham estate on Thursday. Witnesses said the duke's Land Rover overturned during the collision, which happened as he drove out of a driveway. Norfolk County Council was already due to discuss safety issues on the road before the crash took place. The authority is expected to lower the maximum speed limit from 60mph to 50mph and approve installing average speed cameras on the road. Witnesses said the duke was "conscious but very, very shocked and shaken" as he was helped out of the vehicle. Two people in the other car involved in the crash were taken to hospital to be treated for minor injuries and have since been released. Image copyright PA Image caption Prince Philip, 97, regularly drives in the Sandringham area There were 40 accidents, five of which were fatal, on the A149, which is the main route to the Norfolk coast, in the six years from 2012-2018. A council report recommends lowering the maximum speed limit and installing average speed cameras along the road between the Knights Hill roundabout and Snettisham - an idea originally proposed in 2015. Prince Philip unhurt in crash while driving Residents have previously raised concerns about a number of junctions along the A149, which is used by more than 15,000 vehicles a day. One woman, who did not want to be named, said younger drivers often used the road as "a rat run". Media playback is unsupported on your device Media captionPrince Philip crash: 'People stopped to help' - eyewitness Prince Phillip is back at Sandringham, where he has been staying with the Queen since Christmas, and has seen a doctor as a precaution. Norfolk Police confirmed officers were called to the scene shortly before 15:00 GMT after a Land Rover and a Kia were involved in a collision. The force said it was force policy to breath test drivers involved in collisions and both had provided negative readings. The driver of the Kia suffered cuts, while the passenger sustained an arm injury, police said. Both were treated at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in nearby King's Lynn. A woman who drove past the crash scene said she saw an ambulance and "a heavy police presence". She added: "I saw a black, 4x4 type car on its side and me and my son were like 'oh my word, that doesn't look good'. "Obviously it looked quite smashed in. I'm quite amazed he [the duke] is okay actually." Prince Philip retired from public life in August 2017 having spent decades supporting the Queen and attending events for his own charities and organisations. He did not attend the Royal Family's Christmas Day service at Sandringham last month. Analysis: 'Surprise that the duke still drives' By BBC royal correspondent Jonny Dymond There will be several sharp intakes of breath over this accident. The duke is five months short of his 98th birthday. By anyone's standards, getting away from an accident like that unhurt is pretty impressive. There will be some surprise that the duke still drives himself on public roads. But he has always been fiercely independent, and would have resisted any suggestion that he be denied the right to drive himself. And there will now be an investigation into the circumstances of the accident. It might be that the duke is about to be persuaded to give up the wheel. View the full article
  3. Career_SC

    BBC: Prince Philip unhurt after car crash - palace

    I somehow can't see a due care allegation against the Duke passing the public interest test, but wouldn't a DVLA medical assessment would be appropriate here. Thoughts?
  4. mla

    Brexit Discussion

    Of all the narrative I read in your musing, my favourite bit is the Corbyn piece. A shame really as a working man all your life all the Tories have done is taken from you. Whilst you dutifully paid your taxes in your career as a police officer they were implementing a legislative programme to allow those more wealthy than you to pay less. Indeed, I am willing to wager that you never missed a payment due or dodged a civic responsibility set upon you. Yet you continue to support the very people who continue to shaft you over and over again. The Brexit world you seek will never manifest as it is not in the interests of globalised capitalism. Ironically it is the "far left" (as you put it) who also support a British exit from the EU for many economic reasons you set out. May I suggest a book, quite old now (1998), by John Pilger that discusses these very themes set to a different backdrop, Hidden Agendas: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hidden-Agendas-John-Pilger/dp/0099741512/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
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  6. Reasonable Man

    Brexit Discussion

    I’ll have to try harder to understand the answer to my question. Certainly you won’t help answer it. I understand what your view is - 52/48 is a resounding democratic victory that mustn’t be changed because you agree with the 52%. Whereas there must be another vote by Parliament on the deal because you didn’t like the one on offer.
  7. Beaker

    Special constable role to be refocused

    Though to be fair at least the guys in charge seem interested, and we are being tried out with new stuff.
  8. Chief Cheetah

    Special constable role to be refocused

    Yawn If anybody is interested I've got a new invention. I'm going to call it a wheel. In my, errmm, over 25 years in Lancs Specials this happened at least 3 times, maybe more.
  9. This was a discussion point but the logistics of it for how often the MPS conducts ceremonial duties was too complicated and would probably end up increasing coatings rather than saving anything.
  10. Beaker

    Special constable role to be refocused

    Structure has been changed too, and they're expanding our usefulness. It is a case of making better use rather than throwing big numbers and seeing who sticks it. I'm cautiously optomistic.
  11. We've done away with No1 dress unless you specifically need it for something. Both for SC and PC roles. Even then I'm told it is more a case of borrowed from stores and returned after you have used it as nobody wears it on patrol any more. Saves a fortune from what I'm told. Just have slides and button on epaulettes depending on whixh piece of uniform.
  12. Lancashire Police is changing how it recruits volunteer special constables to put an emphasis on “quality rather than quantity”. https://www.lep.co.uk/news/special-constable-role-to-be-refocused-1-9543894
  13. The shield run should absolutely be in. Doing it for real is physical and takes a degree of physical ability and mental strength. It's not for everyone. One of the biggest issues with lv2 PO is that you don't know who you're getting. The bar is so low you have no idea whether the person next to you is any good or not. A 500m shield run isn't hard, but it at least shows they're capable of running about in their kit.
  14. Easily solved by having an epaulette on the tunic. Cathedral constables seem to do it and it looks just fine.
  15. Obviously some kind of Walt who may or may not be a secuirty guard.
  16. I have to say I agree. Plus, 6 months in jail may act as more of a deterrent to any future offending, I think short prison sentences are useful in that respect for those who repeatedly commit 'minor' offences that wouldn't usually attract a custodial sentence.
  17. One of the best bits of kit we were issued for the colder months were microfleece jumpers, which are comfy and unobtrusive under a vest. There's a number of styles going around, from plain black ones to ones with epaulettes or loops on the shoulder and with or without POLICE embroidered on the upper arm. I don't think there's a single force with a good-quality shirt at the moment, so this could be a golden opportunity with the purchasing power of the MPS to procure one. The black shirts most of us wear are of poor quality, don't actually wick or manage perspiration that well and are designed for some sort of odd proto-hominid with a pencil neck, bizarrely short narrow arms and a barrel chest. Importantly, they're not in the slightest bit flame retardant and I'm surprised that's not been seen as a H&S hazard yet, particularly in the public order world where in reality people don't always strip to the skin when changing dress codes quickly. The MOD has a good starting point in the UBACS shirt, that design could easily be taken and made to look smarter with a polo shirt-type collar, slimmer fit sleeves and either an elastic or velcro cuff.
  18. The problem is they won’t buy off the shelf for general uniform unless under pain of death. Hopefully on the basis it was a stupid idea.
  19. Sierra Lima

    BBC: Brexit: France activates no-deal plan

    Sounds like a daily mail reader, I wasn't expecting that from you. If my memory serves me right France received 3 times more refugees than the UK last year. The cost of policing the coast in France is huge. There are hundreds of extra cops 365 days a year and now the navy because a few boats got through the channel. It's not like they can spare them at the moment with protests as nd terrorism threats.
  20. Please could anyone share the content or experiences of a CoP compliant APP Fast Roads course? I'm interested in bringing such a course to our force and can't find any details of such courses.
  21. Techie1

    South Yorkshire Police Recruitment

    Police officer recruitment opens 28 Jan.
  22. ParochialYokal

    BBC: Brexit: France activates no-deal plan

    “France enacts no deal plan” I imagine that this involves reducing the policing of their border to ensure that every vehicle gets checked coming into France and that there is absolutely no enforcement of illegals trying to invade port areas their side, whom are trying effect a clandestine entry into the UK.
  23. ParochialYokal

    Brexit Discussion

    The whole thing is a ridiculous act of posturing. May can not admit that ‘no deal’ is off the table because she is acting on the mistaken belief that she has leverage over Europe for a better deal. She doesn’t. They know that there will not be a ‘no deal’ Brexit and they are not going to offer any concessions. Corbyn knows that the MayBot is stuck in an infinite loop that she cannot escape from, so he has set his own ‘red line’ that he knows she will not respect. It is not incumbent upon Labour to cooperate with the Tories to make Brexit happen. He has done the right thing to not engage with her. Nobody believes that we will drive off the cliff edge- not Labour, not May and not our European friends. As such, the only way that this impasse can change is to have a different type of conversation.
  24. The most important thing it a snappy acronym for the project committee- I'd like to propose Future Uniform & Centralised Kit Implementation Team
  25. It’s be more expensive to buy a whole new tunic for every time you changed role or rank though... Tunics will remain with metal numbers. There was a paper written in relation to reviewing a shoulder number to be a warrant number but for a number of reasons it was rejected.
  26. For off the shelf items we can go live with them within a matter of months (making sure there is enough stock by current suppliers) If we are going to have uniform made from scratch then it all depends if the Test & Evaluation stages and any subsequent re-designs from those. The bosses have stated they want to make sure we are getting the right kit and are not rushing out broken ideas for a quick-fix.
  27. Zulu 22

    Brexit Discussion

    You really must try harder. The 68/32 was a vote prey on the acceptance of the deal negotiated which was roundly, and correctly dismissed. It was not rejecting the Leave vote but a rejection of the conditions.
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