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  2. As i said upthread. I'm not going to bother someone taking photos from the footpath, or in reception. However if they've got a camera pressed against the windows of the writing room while stood in the car park we'll be having words. It IS all proportional, and I absolutely love photographers who know their actual rights, and know how to behave as opposed to those who "Know Their Rights" and think they can go where they please and do whatever they want.
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  5. Funkywingnut

    Photography 'audits' - specifically of stations

    Are they? I presume that is a civil matter? Im very much on the side of the photographers in regards to taking pictures, to presume someone is suspicious because they are filming alone is just daft, hostile reconnaissance takes more than some bloke baiting government employees and for the most part it’s obvious. I go across say hello, he a feel for them, I don’t even identify the on most occasions. People take the terrorism threat as an excuse.
  6. He’s a bus driver, working for a bus company. If he stops driving a bus then he’s of little use to the company. The signage is not offensive legally so either get over it or get another job
  7. Sir Penguin

    Proceeds of Crime

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  8. As you're well aware there is no single specific legislation on photgraphy in places. It's a hidgepodge of criminal and civil law. If those signs hold now sway you better be getting on to English Heritage and The National Trust and tell them to stop billing people.
  9. Beaker

    Brexit Discussion

    They don't care. They're way past that.
  10. Funkywingnut

    Photography 'audits' - specifically of stations

    Ok which bit of legislation? A sign isn’t anything but a notification, which may mean you are asked to leave, I don’t believe it actually holds any legal sway, outwith protected sites
  11. Fedster

    Brexit Discussion

    What about the UK’s FoM into the EU? Why are the gutter press reporting this as some kind of win for the UK? How are they going to police this when no viable plan actually exists? Have they learnt nothing after the Windrush scandal? Or don’t they care?
  12. Alf Ventress

    Proceeds of Crime

    Looking for advice regarding the investigation of a proceeds of crime. Eg...Male arrested in possession of £1200 cash and clearly appears to be as a result of drugs etc. How would this be investigated ?
  13. You would have to ask "what were to motives of the maker of the filming of Northwich Police Station". If memory serves me correctly there is a small nuclear bunker underneath so it would have a security issue. Why would you want to film a Police Station building. Police stations are not immune from being a security risk as there was a time when there was a Police security officer on patrol outside all Police Stations. It could not be in dispute that the man filming had recorded Private and Police vehicles parked within the Police Personnel only places. Had this taken place during an Amber or Red security alert then he would have been shown the inside of the building in the custody suite. How do you differentiate from a would be terrorist to just some sort of person with a bee in his bonnet. Terrorists come in all types of different guises and unlikely to dress in a full Muslim attire. Some time we just have to humour some one trying to express his/her civil liberties.
  14. Fedster

    Brexit Discussion

    Any negotiated deal with the EU will leave us tied in, that is the whole point of a negotiated agreement, it’s a compromise, still don’t understand why you would accept Boris negotiating a compromise which will leave us tied in but May who did the same, her WA is unacceptable in your view. That sums up to me that Brexiteers are not singing from the same hymn sheet, some of them want a no deal, others detest a no deal, some want a Norway plus, some are happy with the Malthouse agreement, others were happy with May’s WA, some of them are flip flopping from 1 version of leave to the next. Make up your minds and we may get somewhere.
  15. Rule of thumb is that if it is a public place, or you can see it form a public place you're likely to be able to take photos. However if you are on private land you can have the right to take photos withdrawn, either verbally or written down. A sign can do this too. We've got signs up in some interview suites saying no photography for instance, one of the old stations I used to visit had a No Photography sign inside the enquiry desk area. Obviously anyone taking photos in custody is likely to get a rocket (and again some have signs, not been in them all though). Heck, some museums and art galleries restrict photgraphy, as do a lot to monuments and stately homes. There is law available to look up online about it.
  16. BlueBob

    Brexit Discussion

    Surely it depends on which side of the coin / channel you are viewing it from? Just as much as we may think there is a better deal to be had, so the Eu strongly seem to consider that their's is the best deal they want to offer. It is/was wholly simplicities to have set the vote question as they did, using the information that they did- remembering MPs and their staff are supposed to be the professionals at that sort of thing or at least have professional resources. To glibly think we could set a deal that wholly satisfies our wants and needs was and remains pure bonkers. For those old enough, I am sure they recall challenges when the UK joined the EEC and then the EU which seemed insurmountable at the time, well its de ja vu time.
  17. Funkywingnut

    Photography 'audits' - specifically of stations

    There is no law I’m aware of, and a policy isn’t sufficient. Maybe a policy is reason for denial of entry but not much more. Its exactly this type of thing they are there to film.
  18. So there is no different to being in a police station to being on the pavement?
  19. Zulu 22

    Brexit Discussion

    It is the conduct of the EU over the negotiations that have brought about the strong possibility of leaving without a deal. May's deal was not acceptable because it left us tied to the EU in many ways. The results of the last EU elections showed what the majority of British voters thought and, if anything, strengthened the will to leave.
  20. Equality = the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, or opportunities. You can be as racist, bigoted or homophobic as you want in your head, the difference is how you express that. To pretend prejudice can ever be eliminated is foolish, but what can be done is educational change so people don’t voice it. A bus driver refuses to drive a pride bus, so what, surely it’s his choice in a free and democratic society, so long as he doesn’t say much more than he doesn’t have the same views, he hasn’t stepped over the line of thought and expression. Why is it any majority group that dares disagree with a (so called) minority group is instantly some sort of bigot. If we want equality, let’s actually make it equal, not just equal for the non majority
  21. Funkywingnut

    Photography 'audits' - specifically of stations

    The rules are different? Run to policy? So the law isn’t different, therefore there isn’t any difference
  22. Chief Cheetah

    Brexit Discussion

    Not really. It may have been the vision of many but it was always known by the powers that be that we couldn't just say goodbye, walk away and that was it done. It was always known that there would be compromises and negotiations to be had. If the ref had been Stay and everything remains the same or leave and this is what we are going to try to negotiate, what our red lines are, the possible downsides if we don't get these things and the sunlit uplands if we do then we would probably have been in a better position that we are now. If the plans were already in place on what we are and aren't going to do and what we are and aren't going to negotiate on and the country still voted to leave then MP's would have likely passed the WA by now.
  23. BlueBob

    Brexit Discussion

    Aren’t you describing exactly what has happened so far. The PLAN was, and is, to leave and in doing so make a deal with the EU. Alas, what no one seemed to consider has been that the deal the UK would like differs from the deal the EU wants.
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  25. Chief Cheetah

    Brexit Discussion

    Unlikely I agree. I'm not suggesting we have a deal agreed before any commitment, what I mean is to have a plan before it is put to the public. This way the public can be told what the government is planning, what it means and what it entails. Then when there is a public vote the public know what it is they are voting for (awaits diatribe from members explaining that they knew what they were voting for) and an informed decision can be made from that. The current 17.4 million visions of brexit aren't working out very well so far are they? If the 17.4 million visions of brexit had been aligned we would have left by now. p.s. don't ever mention that the 17.4 million who voted for Brexit didn't know what they were voting for because you'll get some people really angry and they'll say you are wrong and un-democratic.
  26. Fedster

    Brexit Discussion

    Why is it irrelevant to point out leave means different things to different people? May’s WA was akin to a soft Brexit but it was still leave, Brexiteers in the Conservative party wanted their own type of Brexit hence rejected it. Again the reason we have not left is Brexiteers in Parliament were playing silly buggers. Lets say Boris negotiates a new deal with the EU which ditches the backstop, that WA will be by definition equal leave but the the likes of the ERG will vote it down because they want all the WA renegotiated. How can anyone solve this Brexit crisis when leave voters themselves cannot agree what type of Brexit they want?
  27. BlueBob

    Brexit Discussion

    Never gonna happen. How can it be realistic to seek a deal to leave, when you don’t have a commitment to do so, there will always be a reason to delay, put it off and as time goes by, more countries will join and do the circle continues. As much as it was an unknown to join and lots of wharf, buts etc, so it is the same to leave the survey above was interesting but irrelevant, and irrelevant because it was not part of the question. I come back again to ask what the remainders really had to say leading up to the referendum. They had little to say because we were and are going into challenging times. Had we left within the two years, we would already be on the way to the adjustment process. Lets do it and face the consequences, we’ll never know for sure. And remember, I was a remainder but an acceptor of the vote.
  28. You can stand directly in front of the camera. Ask them some general questions about what they are up to. Don't tell them they have to stop. But you can block the shots for as long as you have the time or inclination.
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