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  5. The thing is, it does go wrong pretty often. It's rare to hear of officers being killed, but various injuries (including serious ones) happen all the time. I also know of occasions where criminals have essentially been given free reign for a time after pulling a weapon, because the PC present has had to withdraw, not being properly trained or equipped to deal with the threat. How is that acceptable?
  6. Well the Policing and Crime Act 2017 will remove the distinction ti all intents and purposes. Whether HO regular, Government Department Constabulary, forces police, private constabulary, or special within whichever, we are one policing family and should look to what unites, not separates us. As I say "Many policing minds, but one heart".
  7. I totally agree. As someone who previously was a Special and someone who now works with Specials I can vouch for the fact that the majority of Specials do go to the same incidents as their regular counterparts and deal with the same people, violent or not. If anything a lot of Specials work the peak times so tend to come across a lot of these sorts of incidents.
  8. I know plenty willing to give it a go. you join a uniformed service (paid or not) you should expect to put that service first. Specials have fought for equality, but equality is omnidirectional not just picking a choosing what you want
  9. Unfortunately @Zulu 22there isn't really a choice for Specials to opt out of a job if it becomes 'too dangerous' particularly if they are actually at the scene at the time and it all goes a bit pear shaped. I've never understood the logic, I've heard many people say similar things about specials in the sense that they shouldn't do X and Y. If they're out in uniform then they do and will end up going to the same jobs. In terms of the arming argument the recruitment of specials in the future may also have to be looked at and made more along the lines of regular constables. This would allow a reserve constable set up which I know has been discussed before. We keep coming back to the same things though and hopefully the various chief officers will look at it in the sense that this is not groundbreaking or re inventing the wheel. We are behind the times really and simply need to catch up with the rest of the world.
  10. Zulu, the essential element of this is not about AFOs, these are specialist firearms officers who are trained and have access to a wide range of weapons, but officers carrying a side arm. Most recognise that if an officer is trained then they should be sent. The fact that they are not paid is irrelevant. JPs who deal with sentencing the vast majority of crime don't get paid, albeit they don't take the same risks. Some forces make extensive use of their specials and I some forces the training is excellent. Funkywingnut, Remmy, Indiana Jones, Milankovitch, myself and others don't make the distinction. Anyone who is trained and wishes to carry the responsibility should do so. A special is at risk as much as any officer. Surely you will appreciate given your long service 90% of the time you never knew what you faced when you turned up.
  11. Unarmed officers are usually initial attenders for most SFIs. Those unarmed officers could be SCs as much as PCs (or maybe even a car with an SC AND a PC staffing it). An SC understands the risks as much as the next person, and needs to adhere to the harm's way principle too.
  12. How do you know what your sending a police officer special or otherwise involves firearms or edged weapons or any other potentially leathal threat?? That's the crux of the matter any frontline officer may find themselves facing such a threat at anytime.
  13. I do not know of any Special who is an AFO or in any way trained to deal with an armed incident.
  14. A suitably trained and equipped Special, yes.....
  15. Are you implying that you would send a Spoecial to deal with a firearms incudent?
  16. I'm surprised that someone who got to where you did, is this naive.
  17. The problem with that logic, if you were to compare it to any other activity we could say that people who only drive a short distance shouldn't need to wear seatbelts because the risk is lesser for those who don't spend so long in the car.
  18. I'm not entirely sure how long ago you retired, however the Specials are being utilised in many more areas now. There isn't a distinction between Specials where I am, and you only have to look at social media to see that they're not off to village fetes on a Sunday afternoon. They are in the same danger as Regulars. Arguably the risk is lessened by hours - same as road incidents. The more you're on the road, the higher chance of being involved in a crash although the hours on the road = greater experience and therefore slightly negates that. That could be applied to the Specials. I know of some Specials who clear 200 hours per month, working on proactive teams and regularly arrest violent offenders carrying weapons. Most of the Specials that I see regularly are in more often than not. If this motion is being discussed it should be for everyone.
  19. This fight should be massive! Has McGregor got a chance? Here is the unofficial trailer;
  20. Twitter poll now running in this - first post of this thread updated
  21. Mike 88 good post, but would change that all officers who want, and are trained, should carry side arm. Every one else Taser. To be honest shooting a gun is probably far easier than a Taser, you're not so restricted by thickness of clothing, worried it might not work and have the pillock at the other end who might believe they can take it because they're a hard *******
  22. I don't understand why it can't work the same way as how tasers are carried on shifts amongst a small number of officers who've volunteered and been trained in their use. I think every officer on shift should carry a taser and a small number should carry a sidearm. We simply aren't adequately equip to go to many of the jobs we attend. Officers carrying only spray/batons responding to jobs involving knives happens daily and it's a wonder more officers aren't stabbed or killed. People seem to think police officers aren't capable of being trained to use a pistol and it's insulting, especially when the military train teenagers to use them in a couple of weeks without any issue.
  23. Yes, unfortunately crime doesn't confine itself to units as we like tend to do with ourselves. Naturally we also have various units that make up our department. As a detective I'm not out there routinely responding to calls in progress yet just yesterday myself and my partner happened to be close when an armed subject call comes in so we were right on scene. Even though I'm not assigned to patrol naturally I still wear my sidearm, spare magazine and handcuffs everywhere I go, plus in the car I have my vest with taser, baton, spray, etc and long rifle & shotgun, should the need arise. So while I may be a detective I still have all the tools available just in case we go somewhere where we need them, and every officer goes through the same training every year so we are all on the same page.
  24. Great read, can't wait for the next update. Good luck.
  25. I'm also waiting for my training to start and all I got at the moment is the Blackstone's operational handbook 2017 and pocket sergeant app as mentioned by Zens Vision.
  26. Police aren't short of money, they are short of decent leadership who are interested in the job not promotion.
  27. I agree with you If you are going to use your money from the budget for things like painting a police car with gay colors, i think the general public will think the police are not short of money as they say they are, its all about public perception, surely it would be handy to have the public on side, stunts like this do the opposite.
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