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  1. When I was a special myself and a colleague were called to some youths messing about near an electricity sub station. Upon arriving the youths were fine and not really doing anything but we could smell cannabis in the air and decided to search them. Three of the four youths were searched and didn't appear to have anything untoward on them, however the fourth youth looked really nervous and had a bright red face, suffice it to say me and my colleague were a little concerned so asked if there was anything on him that could hurt us, he replied no so I conducted the search. The search nearly compl
    5 points
  2. The seven dwarfs heard about the change to only 6 people being allowed to meet together. One of them isn’t happy.
    4 points
  3. Sadly it's because you lack vision. Life under the heel of the EU was barely tolerable. Poverty, food banks, corruption and greed were rife. But not now! With our trade deals with Lichtenstein, Burkina Faso and our elite government who might get something right at some point we are once again a powerhouse of commerce. The negatives are only there if you look for them. If you don't look its fine.
    4 points
  4. It is a strong argument for scrapping PCSO's. They have no power and are acting more as social workers than Police Officers. Scrap them and convert the, with training, to be warranted Police Officers with full powers. The problem with stepping down, or retreat is that you make the job so much more difficult for other officers at future calls. Nobody should be telling a Police Officer to F$$$ off and walk away. To a small degree to play a waiting game can be a success. As a very junior officer I disturbed 3 men who had broken into a shop. After a foot chase I detained one. I was a
    3 points
  5. All toge All together now "BUT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT THAT WAY!"
    3 points
  6. Looks like more utter nonsense attempts to cause an argument. This doesn’t aid the public in any way and that rhetoric is totally false. There are better hobbies available.
    2 points
  7. Oops, we have all done it at some point, maybe not on a plane full of people tho
    2 points
  8. When I first joined BTP the wearing of stab vests for general patrol was believe it or not optional unless you were deployed on an operation where it was deemed you had to wear it or football. This only changed around six years ago where it became mandatory to wear vests when out and about with the public at all times. I was guilty of not wearing my vest as I fell into the old habits that my far older colleagues at my first post fell into. This was often commented on in custody when we would take prisoners in wearing only our outer high vis tac vests as the local force strictly enf
    2 points
  9. Sadly though things aren't being tackled properly or proactively and often I blame this culture of stepping away from a situation and waiting. When I was in training school I can remember being taught basic values and theories within law alongside my 'discretion' input (we were taught the broken windows theory as an example) Crucially a piece of case law that sticks out in my head which I have quoted from time to time is from the R v Sussex Justices, ex parte McCarthy "Not only must Justice be done; it must also be seen to be done." We live in a society now where justice
    2 points
  10. Depends, I've been to my local mags and Crown a fair few times now so know alot of the regular guards, I'm usually in uniform and won't get searched but I recall one guard asking me to take my duty belt off to go through the metal detector until his colleague just waved me through and gave his mate a funny look. I guess the taser, baton, spray and cuffs were fine to take through but he wanted to make sure I didn't have anything else on me 😂.
    2 points
  11. Walking away or stepping back and waiting for the right moment is absolutely the right thing to o. It isn't what always happens when an individual, a pair or group do the first attendance at a scene, but look at how major events are managed with stand offs to assess and re-assess the situation rather than blundering and getting hurt, just for the sake of someone not wanting to be seen to taking the safer option. The attitudes from the days of 1st world war generals of blithely sending in troops to see what might happen have long gone. Policing and many other agencies should no longer
    2 points
  12. Simon I agree with a lot of what you said but its still sad that the murder and attempted murder of two officers merits such little coverage.
    2 points
  13. If this is their best then I really hope they don't have to deal with an international crisis like a pandemic with 4 months warning. OH, hold on...
    2 points
  14. What a complete T**T
    2 points
  15. I can just see Priti elbowing her way down to the detention centre, grabbing a pair of rigid cuffs from the nearest DO and slapping them on the gangster before frog marching him to a waiting van then driving it to the airport herself!
    2 points
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  17. Half right. Whilst there is no requirement to have proof of exemption a cop.does not need to accept someone's word for it. The defence reference to 'reasonable excuse' and it is for a court to decide. If they guy had a knife would that be acceptable? You don't need proof of why you have it just need a 'reasonable excuse'
    2 points
  18. The man has been charged for public order offences and assault emergency worker. Without going into it there was ALOT more to this story than is initially presented on the video.
    2 points
  19. The mind boggles. We should not be turning a blind eye and giving permission for people to ignore the Law. They should be put before a Court and dealt with.
    2 points
  20. We're going to be rolling in money soon. If we stop this foreign aid then we'll have about 14billion more per year to ourselves and if you add this in to the 350m per week we will save out of the EU (that's about 18billion per annum) we're going to be soooooooo rich! Lonely with no friends or allies but SOOOOOO rich. It makes me sad that we are even possibly considering axing foreign aid let alone doing it. But that's how I also feel about leaving the EU and we've already proven that we are daft enough to do that. First country in history to actively impose economic sanctions on itsel
    2 points
  21. Yeah, it's a disgusting travesty, we must stop sending this money out of the country, it does nobody any good at all.
    2 points
  22. Mutant Algorithm is a very strange anagram of Gareth Williamson. 😁
    2 points
  23. Yes he is either committing an offence under the Armed Forces Act or impersonating by wearing the uniform. He will probably claim that he was wronged because it will be racist
    2 points
  24. He wears uniform it like he is in and his own videos he claims this. Likely listed AWOL, failing that his protest alone would constitute an offence under the Armed Forces Act and be sufficient to justify his arrest.
    2 points
  25. I’ve never sought out the policy for my current force, but as it’s 2020 I imagine that it is probably obligatory to wear body armour. Sometimes common sense has to prevail though and it may or may not be worn depending on my duty. The biggest issue for me is that I’ve moved away from wearing rig and have most of my equipment on my vest. In the PSNI, body armour was mandatory, with each areas threat level dictating what type of armour was worn, dual purpose or hard. Even in hard areas I can’t say that I always wore it, personal choice, but if you’re not following SOPs and
    1 point
  26. Were they of a poor standard because of them as people - and so something wrong with the recruitment process? Or were they poor because the training was inadequate - and so given time they will improve? Also how are you judging them? If you say they are poor compared to someone who had 14 (or whatever it is now) of hands on and classroom training under the ‘old’ system then you are not comparing like with like. The proof of the pudding will be their competence after 2/3 years, not at the end of the first step.
    1 point
  27. Ultimately he is SYPs problem and is for them to sort as he is predominantly impacting on them. I'm hoping they'll find the time to take some kind of action against him in regards to the police clothing and general waltish behaviour. I think this gent sums up alot of the Internet auditor movement nicely, odd people with fixations on police, uniform etc he just seems to take it to that next level of cringe.
    1 point
  28. No still cannot find a Bohnson, unless someone is just trying to be insultingly rude. I would refer you to the above post by Rocket. The sooner we finally wave goodbye to the, still corrupt, EU the better.
    1 point
  29. Here is section 38 if you haven't see it before; https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2020/1/section/38 " 38 Parliamentary sovereignty (1)It is recognised that the Parliament of the United Kingdom is sovereign. (2)In particular, its sovereignty subsists notwithstanding— (a)directly applicable or directly effective EU law continuing to be recognised and available in domestic law by virtue of section 1A or 1B of the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018 (savings of existing law for the implementation period), (b)section 7A of that Act (other di
    1 point
  30. In January several Conservative MPs lost the whip for voting against Doris’s wonderful Withdrawal Agreement. Now Conservative MPs are at risk of losing the whip unless the do vote against it! Time for confused emojis again.
    1 point
  31. Looks like we will be up to our necks in trade deals. Being able to ignore international law with complete impunity sounds like a great incentive to make deals. We should probably just tell countries we have deals with them and have changed the law to make it so.
    1 point
  32. Suffolk is a country area and may, farms especially, could have a .22 rifle for vermin control. I find it difficult to understand how he managed to carry any rifle without it being obvious to others. As I have said, perhaps, we will just have to wait and see.
    1 point
  33. I could not stop laughing when one of the true Patriots was flying the Union Jack upside down withe narrow white saltire at the top depicting "Distress". Or, perhaps he was such a staunch Patriot that it was beyond his knowledge.
    1 point
  34. I'm sure that law change will solve the problem and ensure that no more police will get injured in stop checks. The only obstacle to overcome is to somehow compel drivers to obey the law and not to stay in their car once told to leave it by a PC.
    1 point
  35. Quote from the link: But some 49 police have died in road traffic collisions between 2008 and 2019 – and force chiefs claim this figure “could not be ignored”. Kit Malthouse, policing minister, said laws could be introduced to avoid officers having to stand on the hard-shoulder while attempting to question a suspect through a car window. Nothing like statistics to show the real picture. If we think back to the recent post about officers road related deaths. that happens to show that of the nearly 50 deaths almost40 were on the commute. And not, as the politicians seem to infer, as a res
    1 point
  36. I'll take that as a compliment!
    1 point
  37. In my own opinion what the officer did was right ,he should have had a letter or exemption certificate to prove why he should not be wearing a mask and he was being stupid by kicking off like he did.
    1 point
  38. Somewhat disingenuous title, but shouldn't really be surprised as it's from The Sun. Should read "passenger PAVA sprayed for threatening behaviour and assaulting a Police Officer in the course of their duties". Sadly that would be pretty run of the mill, these days.
    1 point
  39. Okay, let's clear up.some myths about degrees and Policing: 1) Having a degree does not mean you would be useless in a scrap or smashing in doors. Conversely, not having one does not mean you would be good at it 2) A degree can include hands on skills as well as theory. How do people think doctors get qualified? Just by reading a book? 3) the critical think required to pass a degree is the same kind of critical thinking which is missing from modern day Policing.
    1 point
  40. It is another nail in the coffin to destroy Policing and show the4 serving officers just, how little they are valued. Always in Policing you have a situation of being hands on and, like it or not, the use of force. A degree does not help in those circumstances. Yes a good educational standard is necessary, but joining the service, going through the training and the experience should qualify someone for a degree in Policing. At the moment you can go through 30 years of Policing, deal with just about everything, receive in job qualifications, Advanced Driving, CID Course etc,etc. and leave
    1 point
  41. He could have just registered himself as a Conscientious Objector but instead decided to protest in uniform. A quick departure from Service will likely ensue.
    1 point
  42. You’re basically spot on. The Home Office is responsible for law and order like you say and deciding budgets for forces. The PCC is an elected official responsible for holding the Chief Constable to account and also for appointing them. They hold the finances for the force given to them by the Home Office and They decide precept rates from the council tax bills and act as a sort of go between for the Public and the Police. Because We “Police by Consent” and the Home Secretary isn’t appointed by the Public, they created the office of PCC to allow communities to feel like th
    1 point
  43. It was a ‘project’ for my Crime Managers course back around 2000. I’m sure all the pros and cons that we discussed then will be repeated here. Our recommendation was bit of a half way house with American style police branded outer clothing - utility vests, fleeces, rainproof coat etc marked up with ‘Police’ and ‘CID’ for wearing at scenes and in other relevant situations. Never happened, of course. The force I last served in made a nod towards the idea by doing away with CID per se and having ‘investigation teams’ - a mixture of plain clothes detectives and uniformed officers who were al
    1 point
  44. If that's the craziest thing you have witnessed after 44 years of driving I would suggest you have had a very sheltered driving experience! These idiots are out there doing a whole lot worse than this every day.
    1 point
  45. And why not - how much time is wasted in face to face training and the likelihood is they would use VR at the training centre. Work better nor harder
    1 point
  46. I would expect every full time warranted officer to know their powers. I would not expect the same from a Special but traffic measures and vehicle checks are bread and butter Policing. There are very few criminals who do not use vehicles and knowing the simple ways in are an asset.
    1 point
  47. The cops have a very hard job people whinge but are first on the phone when their plantpot is stolen?i read a story before‘I was taken to the floor and neck crushed’rubbish? I’ve been arrested I’m a normal person if you show your hands and comply what’s the issue?if an incident is going on around you
    1 point
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