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  1. 4 points
    Memo to self..... Sometimes I need to breath whilst I read sequential posts otherwise the wrong message can be conveyed. I don't see that isolation stops the spread, merely delaying it until the warmer weather and less seasonal demand on the NHS. Having accepted that fact, then the rest just falls into place.
  2. 3 points
    So it looks like the parents are going to be quite accepting of it all, so it's likely that I'll be doing quite a lot of shifts. We're being told to hang back a bit for now and only do the maximum number of shifts possible when the regulars start needing time off etc. To answer your question though @XA84, my force is giving the option of selecting "social distancing" as an option on Duty Sheet, which allows you to opt out of the 16 hours a month while this is all going on. In terms of knowing what I was getting myself in for - yes I was fully prepared (and still am) to put myself on the line. The risks were made clear from the outset (although perhaps not pandemics...) But I never really considered the thought of putting my parents at risk. I was due to be moving into a flat in April (obviously postponed now) which would have meant that by the time I attested it wouldn't have been a consideration anyway. But there we are, unpredictable times!
  3. 3 points
    Methodical do not take any notice of the over the top, distasteful and unwarranted criticism to a simple question. When we joined we accepted the danger and the longer that you have served the more to stop to think about it. You have yet to take an active part. When you have you will be in a far better position to make this type of decision. When I joined I never thought that I would face a man with a loaded gun, several people armed with knives, iron bars, knuckle dusters, broken bottles, etc, etc. Had I thought of that before It might have put me off. As it turned out I grew to accept it as part and parcel of the job. Would I have changed one moment of it No.
  4. 3 points
  5. 3 points
    And, they live amongst us and they breed. Absolute cretinous morons.
  6. 3 points
    That's the mistake of the past I feel. I think once upon a time during better days when police were better funded and there was more of us we became more politically driven to become more than just 'police' hence when we started becoming far more involved in 'social' issues rather than just policing ones. Whilst admirable, this was a mistake in the long term as other core service providers became reliant on this move from the police and expected the police to act as the 24hour service to fall back on. Why is it at 136 suites I've been asked to act as an orderly to keep and maintain order with violent or aggressive people on ward, they're a mental health facility and should have the ability to do that themselves. Why am I suddenly a children's social worker or mental health professional? It's unsustainable. THRIVE for me is another example where it can be easily used to write off crimes which aren't deemed worthy of police action but the reality is those crimes do impact on people, on business, on the social order... They lead to more law breaking and ultimately disorder. I think given the global circumstances we are going to find out how we adjust our priorities to focus more on core, traditional policing principles.
  7. 3 points
    If I was a conspiracist, I may have thought this was all fake news and a Vegan take over plot!
  8. 3 points
    Went to the supermarket today and there was no fresh meat whatsoever. Plenty beer though so a liquid dinner is better than no dinner.
  9. 3 points
    Yeah happened to me yesterday got a punch in the nose, sadly I'm still ugly 😂
  10. 2 points
    Not going to happen, they don't have the money to organise themselves properly, they don't have any real training structure or rationale as to what they are or what equipment they are supposed to be specialised in using, merely hankering after the past is pointless. Civil Defence in the UK was disbanded because the Government realised there wasn't a role for it. They might attract the odd person who revels in calling themselves "Civil Defenders" but what does that actually mean? Many years ago when the CB radio boom happened, there was a group of people who suddenly thought that having CB radios meant they could form a group and get involved with responding to emergencies, now don't laugh but they called themselves 'International Rescue' which shouldn't be confused with the disaster relief operation that UK Fire Services get involved with. They would hear of RTC's via their CB radios, turn up fairly rapidly, arrange ambulances, arrange vehicle recovery, and even clean up the scene, by the time the police got there because they were often not informed, evidence was lost. So back in the mid 80's most police forces were wary about who they got involved with! Then there was Paramedico who strangely enough were from Buckinghamshire, they all had dodgy uniforms and equally dodgy first aid training, they ran around in an old ambulance that wasn't road worthy. The final straw came when they took a woman who went into labour at a village fete to hospital or tried to, Thames Valley Police had to stop them on the M40 heading for High Wycombe and a NHS Ambulance had to be called. That made all the tabloids and the following court case put paid to their adventures!
  11. 2 points
    How could they accidentally pull the CC over? Presumably they were checking why people were driving and therefore it was a deliberate stop in an effort to check on compliance with the law.
  12. 2 points
    True. But getting paid actual money for going in is a good motivator. I should also add that I don't wear a uniform, have my own work car and almost no interaction with the public, so my risk is pretty minimal. In case the OP is reading this, I would urge you to go in because this is an extraordinary time to be a uniformed front-line police officer. And when it's all over everyone will hate you again, so you might as well make the most of it.
  13. 2 points
    That's a bit unfair. The OP was only articulating what many are probably thinking and was asking for some advice.
  14. 2 points
    Looks like my question about MOT's has been answered then. A 6 month extension for all expiring after end of March.
  15. 2 points
    More like a Radio 2 phone in listener - An ARRSEr would have added a picture of a naked woman or more likely 'That Rifle'
  16. 2 points
    We are seeing this quite a lot, with public and police. I don't think it would be unreasonable to captor or punch the person in the face should such a threat be made. Claiming to possibly having a deadly disease and suggesting they spit, that's basically having a knife.
  17. 2 points
    A great pity we don't carry the larger "party size" PAVA sprays, like they do in Europe and the US. A liberal hosing down with that might dissuade the pond life from spitting. Although they might be coughing a bit, afterwards.
  18. 2 points
    Shoot them in the face, they won’t do it again... Oops wrong forum, lets just moan instead 😀
  19. 2 points
  20. 2 points
    I have a spare loo roll, If that helps?
  21. 2 points
    🙈. I get to do the heavy shop as my shopping contribution and my other half does the veg and diff stuff. going to do a normal shop Felt like stockpiling, coz a 6 pack of super soft botty massage sheets is our norm when we run out. Thd local supermarket was saying they’d had cut backs on their deliveries and I doubt that helps. I Want to know where all the eggs suddenly disappeared to though- the hens are still laying!
  22. 2 points
    Usually I don't comment on sentencing of people but in this case after reading the article I have to say I am absolutely flabbergasted! 9 months suspended for 18 months is quite frankly shambolic. Where is the deterrent in that? The fact that admits to making and holding category A images should mean he gets a jail sentence. Utterly, utterly appalled.
  23. 2 points
    You're not alone with that view... https://www.gov.uk/government/news/media-advisory-notice-pc-andrew-harper Media advisory notice - PC Andrew Harper The Solicitor General Rt. Hon Michael Ellis QC MP wishes to draw attention to the requirement not to publish material, including online, which could jeopardise the defendants' right to a fair trial. Published 16 March 2020 From: Attorney General's Office and The Rt Hon Michael Ellis QC MP Solicitor General Three defendants are currently on trial for the murder of PC Andrew Harper. The jury was empanelled on 10th March 2020 and the trial is due to last approximately 6 weeks. The Solicitor General Rt. Hon Michael Ellis QC MP wishes to draw attention to the requirement not to publish material, including online, which could create a substantial risk that the course of justice in these proceedings could be seriously impeded or prejudiced. Publishing this information could amount to contempt of court. It could also put the trial at risk and jeopardise the defendants’ right to a fair trial. In particular, the Solicitor General draws attention to the requirement not to publish material that asserts or assumes the guilt of any of those who face trial. That is an issue to be determined by the jury on the evidence that they hear in court. The risks may also arise by inaccurate reporting or reporting that prejudges issues that witnesses may give evidence about during the trial. The Attorney General’s Office will be monitoring the coverage of these proceedings. Editors, publishers and social media users should take legal advice to ensure they are in a position to fully comply with the obligations they are subject to under the Contempt of Court Act. They are also reminded of the terms of the order made under section 45 of the Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act 1999 by Mrs Justice Whipple DBE on 19th September 2019.
  24. 2 points
    Equality and discrimination laws work all ways. This case should be heard.
  25. 2 points
    No of course I'm not. I'm simply explaining the law. S24 PACE requires reasonable grounds to suspect someone is guilty of an offence. Often evidence already obtained by police would support reasonable grounds to hold suspicion but that's different from the point you and SD are making. Check Baker v Oxford 1980, it's basic caselaw which was (at least 15 years or so ago) drummed into probationers by my PDU Sgt. Suspicion is the imagination of an existence without any proof. You don't need evidence to make a lawful arrest as the suspicion is reasonably held (formed on reasonable grounds) and there are reasonable grounds to believe it is necessary.
  26. 2 points
    People who say "I don't want him Arresting". WHY DID YOU CALL US THEN?! "I pay your wages", really? I didn't know I got paid, must chase that up at HQ. People who can't put their mobile phone down, that includes pedestrians who look at you stupidly when they walk in to you despite the fact you're stood still. Bonus points given when you're on duty and in hi-vis. Boy Racers in 1.0L Pug 108s with a bodykit (or a knackered old Corsa with VXR badges and a whaletail). "I know you're just about to book off, but can you just..." No, just no, not happening. Not taking on a griefy job at 3am as I'm on way back in.
  27. 1 point
    We know those, they're on the wall. That said, they usually have snide plates on them so I go by facial recognition after I clock the make and model. If they're who we need to speak to I pass the info out to the regs who can pull them.
  28. 1 point
    it's not though, it's just a pipe dream, imagine you are a PC manning a checkpoint at at train/plane crash and this bod turns up in his Thunderbird type uniform expecting to be let through, he isn't recognised and Fire Officer in Charge won't be very impressed if you let him through, apart from basic first aid they have no skill set to offer. It is like someone turns up at the same checkpoint dressed as superman, your not going to let them through! There are plenty of legit organisations, the BritishRedCross has Community Response Volunteers now (they gave up on First Aid, Nursing and Medical Services last year), some County Councils have Emergency Response Volunteers, St John Ambulance currently has 200 volunteer Ambulance crews across England supporting the NHS Ambulance Service with everything from hospital transfers to 999 calls, to conveying COVD patients to hospital, they also have First Aiders and Advanced First Aiders who have undergone specialist COVID 19 training and will be working in the NHS Nightingale Hospitals as well as local Hospitals supporting the NHS, they are also responsible for giving airline cabin crew extra training. Then there are the multitude of community groups who are looking after their communities all started from scratch and making a real impact to vulnerable peoples lives! Where is JCAC in all this? Nowhere if we are honest!
  29. 1 point
    No it doesn't. But the kneejerk reaction now is for officers to just wonder around waving their arms about whilst people ignore them. The BBC and newspapers are now saturated with claims of police being overzealous that it completely undermines any attempt to enforce. I was speaking to someone who recently managed to return home from Spain and they were saying the police there would be spraying people with pepper spray and swinging batons if you so much as gave the slightest bit of agro. I'm not saying we should do the same, not at all, but we have an uproar about human rights because the police are speaking to people or issuing fines and it upsets them a bit. The whole issue with the drones and large open spaces is I admit rather daft - to an extent. However some are gathering at picnic spots in large groups for BBQs (admittedly not now the weather has turned). It also doesn't help about the misinformation regarding the dying of the 'blue lagoon.' Which no mention that it is a deterrent regarding the PH level which could result in chemical burns, it's instead put down the coronavirus.
  30. 1 point
    Speaking as someone who is employed, but not working, lives alone, but is not a Special and who would very much like to be, I would say go for it. You’d find it very difficult to look back in eighteen months time or so if you had not jumped in when support like yours is crucial. That said, as suggested earlier, if you take proper cleaning and hygiene methods - I.e. keeping the household as ‘clean’ and and outside area as ‘dirty’, you should be able to seriously minimise the chance of passing it on to anyone else. Best of luck, stay safe.
  31. 1 point
    Well, I suppose 26 weeks inside is better than nothing.
  32. 1 point
    We have had hand sanitizer and thermometers taken
  33. 1 point
    That's disgusting. I'm not surprised with the securities inaction given it'd probably be more trouble than its worth.
  34. 1 point
    It is the practical demonstration of the quote along the lines of “civilisation and anarchy is separated by only nine meals”.
  35. 1 point
    I think it's fair to say my faith in the British general public is close to zero.
  36. 1 point
    National Crime Agency investigators have charged a German truck driver with attempting to import class A drugs, following a huge seizure of cocaine at Dover. The haul, which weighed almost half a tonne, was found by Border Force officers carrying out checks on vehicles entering the UK on the evening of Wednesday 18 March. Packages containing 470 kilos of drugs had been stuffed inside tyres that were being transported from the Netherlands on the back of a lorry. The seizure was referred to the NCA, who have launched an investigation. The lorry driver, 56-year-old German national Kawus Rafiei from Riedbahn in Germany was questioned and later charged with the importation of a controlled substance. He will appear before Margate Magistrates today (Friday 20 March). NCA Branch Commander Martin Grace said: “This was a significant seizure of cocaine, the tyres were literally bulging because of the amount inside them. “If cut and sold on the streets of the UK this load could have had a value of around of £50 million. “Losing it represents a huge hit for the criminal network likely to be behind this attempted importation – profits which they will not be able to invest in other criminality. “It also shows how, despite the unprecedented situation we find ourselves in with the coronavirus outbreak, the NCA, Border Force and our law enforcement partners are determined to disrupt organised crime and protect the public. “That work goes on, and our investigation into this seizure continues.” 20 March 2020 View the full article
  37. 1 point
    It seems to be more in the cities where the more aggressive shopping is happening. Weird shortages in my area. We don’t do a ‘big shop’ rather I go about three times a week. This week we needed a few things and I had to go to the three supermarkets in my town. None had any pasta, only one had porridge and only another frozen peas! Noticeably no loo rolls in any and very limited on eggs. What I don’t get is where is everyone storing all this food that they don’t usually buy in such quantities? I reckon it will all calm down in a couple of weeks and the hoarders will be throwing away loads of gone off food.
  38. 1 point
    Sorry but it is nonsense. The offender pleaded Guilty to theft, theft being an criminal offence. Theft is theft whether it be a Bottle of Milk, Perfume valued at £170, or Gold Bullion. A complainant has the right to an offence against them of being dealt with properly, which is not a pat on the head and telling him not to do it again. Did they even check out the offender, if they did they would have known he was on a Suspended sentence for shoplifting. Obviously Boots wanted to prosecute but their wishes were ignored, Why?
  39. 1 point
    Why is it nonsense? What do you know about this case and the facts on which the officers made a decision which the rest of us don't? £170 is still a low-value shoplifting according to the statutory definition, a summary-only offence for the purposes of trial, and the victim being a shop very much does make a difference about how it can be dealt with. That's not to downplay the effect upon the shop or the nature of his offending history, simply a reflection of the law.
  40. 1 point
    I’ve received an email from Listers group saying they’ll pickup your car from your house if it needs servicing/MOT doing. they’ll also do video calls to show you around a new car if you are thinking of buying one, but don’t want to visit a showroom!
  41. 1 point
    Such an order would be unlawful. It boils down more to "Can't be bothered"
  42. 1 point
    My advice would be to keep an eye on Italy and France to get a rough idea how things will pan out in the UK. Italy is about three weeks ahead of us with this infection, the infection rate isn't huge either given the nations population but its already struggling, so far social order and cohesion as what's being reported seems to be stable. I think a sensible measure for cops and/or emergency workers to take would be to ensure their own personal vehicles are kept topped up with fuel (above 1/2 a tank which is the BTP Policy for our response vehicles.) If we have a breakdown in the supply chain or a national shutdown of transport infrastructure people are going to struggle to get into work, cops and medical staff unable to get to their posts would just exacerbate things. I'd also remind everyone here to probably expect to be exposed and come down with COVID19... I've been working on a mainline station having people with large suitcases in masks interacting and talking to me from Mainland China and the rest of the world for the last two months. I've removed numerous vagrants, made numerous arrests and dealt with people throughout this time in their home addresses, the very nature of you work means you're going to come across someone who will be infected with COVID19 far more so than someone who is 9-5 in an office likely to be sent home into whatever quarantine/shutdown will come into place over the next few weeks.
  43. 1 point
    I was assaulted at work, I was punched in the face. It caused reddening but otherwise left my devilish good looks in tact I received £100 for it.
  44. 1 point
    Use typex to write your collar number on your cuffs. Get hold of an old pair and keep them in your bag. If someone wants to borrow handcuffs give them that. You could also use coloured tape (electrical tape) around the handle to personalise them. Get little stickers with your collar number or surname like the ones you put on school uniforms (cheap on Amazon) and stick that on EVERYTHING. Sad I know but over the years I had 2 pairs of cuffs, 1 baton, 1 torch, 4 hats, 1 coat "swapped" or stolen so be prepared.
  45. 1 point
    We had it a lot in our custody and it wasn't just AFO's who did it. To combat this we just bought red coloured TCH cuff's, hence no officer would be seen dead with them outside of custody.
  46. 1 point
    This case just re-enforces why officers should avoid Social Media. It will be interesting to see how the court deals and disposes the case. His defence solicitor said "“He has gender issues which he struggles with from time to time and made the decision to self-certify as male in August of last year." You cannot help but wonder just what the issues are in his mentality. If he is a male then why would he make a decision to Self certify as a male? What is apparent by his previous records is that he has serious mental health issues, and is very dangerous.
  47. 1 point
    common law section 3 of the Criminal Law Act 1967 section 117 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (PACE) https://www.app.college.police.uk/app-content/detention-and-custody-2/control-restraint-and-searches/#information
  48. 1 point
    Why should he not open up and man the closed stations. It does indicate he is listening as that is what the Public want. After all we/you have ignored the views of the Public for too long now.
  49. 1 point

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    Need to know the regulations in relation to number plates - make sure you have this guide with you on patrol to ensure you are right in your beliefs.
  50. 1 point

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    Here is the relevant legislation under the Road Traffic Act 1988 for you to use.
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