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  1. 4 points
    Ah Rumours, the biggest source of misinformation. If you want something to happen start a rumour. Have you ever considered that your performance, just may not be as good as you think. Certainly I do not think that it is a suitable place to be airing any dirty washing.
  2. 4 points
    Clearly not a very well researched source from the OP. A simple Google search would have revealed these facts. Is he suggesting that we should take the word of a convicted drug courier seriously? I'll save you the bother of watching the video. The first two minutes seem to be a tirade where he appears to blame the police, media and everyone else but himself. I can't comment on the remaining twelve or so minutes, as I'd switched off around the two minute mark. However, I'm going to have a wild stab in the dark, and suggest it's more of the the same.
  3. 3 points
  4. 3 points
    John, your writings remind me of things I've seen on Facebook previously, most recently just yesterday... A police force, had posted about an innocent boy (2 yrs old) being caught up in the crossfire of what looks like some sort of OCG incident. His grandmother talks emotively about the incident. Then, out of nowhere, someone starts banging on about HMRC in a speech seemingly directed at HM Queen. It is completely incongruous to the situation at hand and uninvited, and whenever I see that kind of thing it makes me wonder if the writer is perhaps undergoing some sort of breakdown or mental health crisis. Have the last ten years of court battles and your recent financial problems perhaps taken their toll? I'd genuinely recommend that you talk to someone if so - there is help out there.
  5. 3 points
    @John Bernard there's no need to do another cut and paste from Wikipedia about the phrase ad hominem. We're all well aware of what it means. We've seen people complain about it many times over the years, in similar circumstances. If I might be so bold, in order to save you some effort (and I use the phrase effort very loosely)... if you're going to try and construct an argument then please do so. Don't just regurgitate stuff you've read, and only half understood. You're not proving your point - in fact quite the opposite. You're starting to come across (to me, if no one else) as a bit of a joke. I don't know if you're trying to be ironic or not, and I'm having trouble believing that you were ever a police officer in the UK or anywhere under the UK style legal system. Take a deep breath, gather your thoughts, start again.
  6. 3 points
    Too much lazy cutting and pasting. I'm out.
  7. 3 points
    After the Magna Carta was quoted i only need 'maritime law' to get a full house in freeman bingo.
  8. 3 points
    This. Having spent many a day watching protestors make their way passed me over the years I would say they fall primarily into three categories: 1. Young student types who have limited life experience but want to change the world. Usually alright to deal with but tend to become 'outraged' or upset at the smallest instruction. 2. Old lecturer middle class types who never grew out of their university days of protesting, can be extremely condescending when spoken to, generally a small glint of madness in their eyes. 😂 3. Professional Anarchist protestor types that live very alternative lifestyles and show up to every protest event to stick the boot in to the government or police. Will take any and all opportunity to rile you, make you look like an aggressor and will have no problems assaulting you.
  9. 2 points
    Sorry for the delay but this is what GMP use which might be useful (remove the telephone number obviously). If it is going to be used on a large scale would be worth contacting the person who designed it to ask permission(I'll PM their details if you need it). Let me know if its of any use. MH Guide 2019.pdf
  10. 2 points
    Asking someone to cover a shirt as they walk passed them and taking literally no action against them bar perhaps upsetting them. Yeah... I can't see a breach of someone's rights there. If she had been detained, arrested, reported maliciously prosecuted, dispersed or dealt with by any means at all I could see how her rights were violated. In the circumstances above I'm not so sure.... It amounted to a brief conversation.
  11. 2 points
    It just shows the idiocy and the abject Racism of the Black Lives Matter Movement. I believe that a large percentage of the population have had enough of this now. I feel embarrassed when I see Police Officers kneel on one knee, and I feel embarrassed when I see the Politics of BLM brought into football. I also believe that if football was taking place in front of paying fans that, again, very few would be kneeling. I am an ardent believer that All Lives Matter, but that allegedly makes me a Racist, but in whose eyes. To dub Sir Keir Starmer as being a Cop in a an expensive suit is ludicrous and goes a long way to indicate the mentality of those accusing him.
  12. 2 points
    Just to make it clear for everybody... Is not the same as
  13. 2 points
    Well it starts with engagement, then explanation followed by a community consultation and if necessary taking the knee, then doing nothing before getting criticised by the MSM, then finally doing something and also getting criticised for using too much force.
  14. 2 points
    What we need is long periods of thunderstorms and relentless rain this evening that usually works in sending the hoodlums home.
  15. 2 points
    Ahh good old British common sense. Not very common it would seem. It doesn't help with the wishy washy instructions and advice coming from the Government. They should have stuck with stay home and save lives. They should also have taken action when their own advisors broke the rules. The RLB sacking today is a clear demonstration on how a leader of a political party should deal with people who break the rules, instead we get this absolute shower in charge.
  16. 2 points
    I’m sure I read something like this account in the red banner papers! im sure this update is not just venting a frustration, but not sure how much the relationships is relevant on this type of forum. Have you considered exploring the Sgt’s marital agreements - they are grown ups!!!
  17. 2 points
    I've never heard it called that before 😉
  18. 2 points
    Taser would have been better but news don't say if the officer had one. but the officer done well to bring him down 👍
  19. 2 points
    Power of entry for stalking and harassment is simply idiotic. Stalking is super serious, but no power of entry for you. Steal a mars bar, power of entry! It should be a judgement, inspector authorises if they are scared we will use too much. S136, give it to the NHS, ensure we support them formally and let us do it indoors. They should be the lead agency
  20. 2 points
  21. 2 points
    To quote Sir Thomas Moore, "qui tacet consentire". It didn't work for him, he lost his head.
  22. 2 points
    Greetings to those who now serve from one who came before you. It is unlikely than any now remain who had first hand experience of the widespread disorder in 1981. That, I submit, was the last time that public confidence in police as an institution was challenged as it is today. It remains to be seen if the Senior ranks who brought the present situation about are held to account. It remains to be seen if those who perjured their attestation by "Taking a knee" find themselves removed from any evidence chain and no longer employable as constables. It remains to be seen what happens when you are attacked in the streets and followed home by angry mobs. Because of the reduction in training standards you do not know what you have not been taught. What you do need to know about are the common law rights and duty of all loyal subjects to preserve The Queens Peace and the legal immunities that our wise ancestors handed down to us. There are not enough of you to restore confidence without assistance once the bluff of policing is called, as it has been. Regards, John Hurst. Metropolitan Police 1978-2008 also drawing on the experience of my father, Bernard Hurst. Metropolitan Police 1939-1969.
  23. 2 points
    S22 Magistrates' Courts Act 1980 and Schedule 2. Note it doesn't include offences of arson nor any offence other than under S1 of the Act. The section is written in such a way that it does not become a summary offence, but the magistrates are entitled to proceed as if it were summary only. There isn't an explicit paragraph preserving PACE powers as was written into S176(6) ASBCPA 2014 for low value shoplifting inserted into S22A MCA, but the phrasing there went along the lines of "is triable only summarily" rather than "proceed as if it were" so there is a distinction.
  24. 2 points
    Oh please can I have moderators permission to cut'n'paste yet another diatribe followed by the word "What!"
  25. 2 points
    Seems like someone has forgotten at least two thirds of ABC. Accurate?- maybe, but I can't be bothered to check. Brief? - Only if paid by the word. Clear? - Not in a month of Sundays.
  26. 2 points
    That is probably correct as the sit back and let it happen approach from the week before was never going to sit comfortably. Not that there was much chance of it happening as they're generally a bunch of knuckle draggers, but the EDl / Football lads alliance type could have taken the high ground and demonstrated peaceably, and protected the monuments. Instead we get the usual violence and damage and attacks on police and any people who were peaceful get drowned out of the coverage.
  27. 2 points
  28. 2 points
    Jesus, people are ignorant. Provide your details and go about your day. Alternatively, get the HO/RT1 and be even further inconvenienced. The officer tries to explain the power to the woman and get shrieked at hysterically. To me, a throughly professional encounter. The only people in the wrong are the couple.
  29. 2 points
    Yes agreed, the common term of ‘instant arming’, or ‘weapon of opportunity’ but this is very different than pre arming for self defence and is very limited and no bill of rights or sovereignty will ever make a difference to current legislation.
  30. 2 points
    Sounds like we have drifted down the Sovereign Citizens nonsense again. For clarity, no you cannot possess a weapon for self defence, no matter what someone says on the Internet, even if they quote 100s of years old antiquated publications.
  31. 2 points
    There's some interesting barrack room law being embarked on here, the Bill of Rights, Protestants carrying weapons, the Brexit ruling, talking about S24A PACE in the context of constables... Fegan [1972] NI 80 is I believe the case mentioned above, which talks about possession of a firearm for self-defence and is very much not a carte blanche to be armed not least because there are other offences in play and because Northern Irish Court of Appeal decisions are not binding upon the rest of the UK. While self-defence can be a reasonable excuse for the possession of an offensive weapon, it cannot where one's own conduct creates the likelihood of violence, Malnik v DPP [1989]. It can amount to a reasonable excuse only in the face of an imminent threat and not on the off-chance of being attacked, Evans v Hughes [1972], R v Peacock [1973], Ohlsen v Hylton [1975]. This we call the "instant arming" defence, and whether and for how long this weapon may be reasonably possessed is a question for the jury on the facts at the time.
  32. 2 points
    Ultimately this behaviour is becoming more and more common place. Needless to say It doesn't surprise me.
  33. 2 points
    I wonder if those who want to remove the statues consider the overall "good" that the people have provided, which has often been above and beyond the bad. On balance, would the likes of Churchill, who did make some very bad and costly decisions in his earlier years (as I understand it), but in due course also make some significant and good ones. The media is talking about a statue linked to slave trader near Docklands, but the person also contributed significantly to the education and development as well. In part, those statues are a visible and clear reminder of what has gone wrong in the past and the steps that still need to be taken into the future. ( 1st world war Field Marshall Haigh is such a reminder that we should never go to war and make the costly decisions he made) Without that history, perhaps our futures would have a less clear path. To scratch such things for the history books and education, as some seem to want, again would remove the basis of why reform and changes are needed. I'm really not sure that a few words on a placard really shows someone has given genuine thought to what they are supporting / demonstrating over.
  34. 2 points
    There do seem to be a few armchair experts on public order, on this thread. Do you tell your dentist which teeth he needs to take out? Or do you tell your mechanic how to fix your car's brakes? I'm guessing you don't? Then why tell Police Officers how to do their job? Policing seems to be the one role that anyone with no knowledge or experience of feels compelled to comment on. I wonder why that is? Officers on the ground were massively outnumbered by the crowds. With hindsight this would seem to be a failure of planning by senior commanders. It is certainly not the fault of the Operational Commanders and Police Officers on the ground. Who I'm certain, did the best they could under incredibly challenging conditions. Whilst I will never condone criminal damage, however compelling or emotive the reasons for doing so may seem to be. If it's a choice between protecting a statue, or protecting lives. Protecting lives (including the lives of the officers under your command) wins every time.
  35. 2 points
    Stalin killed tens of millions not thousands, I just needed to correct you on that point because people seem to deliberately forget just how evil a regime the USSR was and how much of a monster Stalin was, this is the man who afterall infamously said: "One death is a tragedy but a million is merely a statistic." How anyone with a basic understanding of history would wish for a statue of Stalin to me atleast verges on unthinkable, he's up there with Hitler as far as evil dictators go. As for the destruction of a statue just who will remember Edward Colston in a generation or twos times? His legacy was one marred as a slaver, his image standing in Bristol as a warning onto others how people don't just remember the good someone did but the bad aswell, now that reminder is sitting at the bottom of Bristol Quay how long do you think people will go on to remember the name Edward Colston? Not too long I reckon. But you see this is a problem on the far left protest groups which I think is very dangerous, they're so emotional, irrational and live their lives dictated by feeling they fail to recognise that we shouldn't wipe out the parts of history we don't like, history is there to be learnt from, the good and the bad. What happened yesterday was the far left professional protestors dictating onto everyone else what they perceived to be right, effectively saying "this is our will and you can't do anything about it." History should serve as a cautionary tale, they're pulling statues down today, it'll be burning books they don't agree with next. I ultimately saw mob rule, anarchists at work in Britain yesterday.
  36. 2 points
    Jesus wept! I truly hope you aren't a serving Officer, with an attitude like that?
  37. 2 points
    Quite frankly don’t think that type of comment helps.
  38. 2 points
    I don't see what the problem is. She lives in the UK, she's volunteered. As long as she puts the time in and does her job she'll be an asset as an officer. Her added value as an ambassador for the role can't even have a figure put in it. I've worked with flakier people.
  39. 1 point
    Thanks alot guys.. shes settled with the Altberg sneakers!
  40. 1 point
    If she’s a normal officer, and not working massively rurally, then my recommendation will always always be Altberg Peacekeeper P1. And I own or have owned almost every option there is. Altberg Peacekeeper, Altberg Sneeker, Lowa Combat, various Bates, various Magnums, Haix GSG9, Salomon Quest, Dr Martens, Meindl, and so on..
  41. 1 point
    Stupidity belies their actions. I can see no other alternative than Dismissal, and that is from someone who has defended officers at hearings.
  42. 1 point
    If it found to be true I find it disgusting for police officers to do such a thing and it is up to there boss and the IPPC if they keep there jobs or not.
  43. 1 point
    I bet that itsmany of the same bell ends who hoarded flour and toilet rolls whilst blaming everyone else for buying too much.
  44. 1 point
    I’m with Bob here, I have lost the will to read copy and paste drivel in encyclopaedia amounts. I am even less interested in someone’s opinion and misquoting to try and prove a point every court and police officer in the land is proving wrong every single day.
  45. 1 point
    Adults edging their bets on a sympathetic jury I reckon.
  46. 1 point
    Beaker, no, the final stage of subversion you speak of is on your watch. Learn the common law and put things right. See my latest post on the way in which private persons can assist you. The way the situation is going you do not have much time. For a presentation on how the subversion started see this from about the 19 minute mark:
  47. 1 point
    I found this for you... https://www.fireservice.co.uk/recruitment/interview-questions/ I've not transferred, but I do interview job applicants. If the fire service follow the same process, then they should only ask you about your behaviours and technical skills relevant to the role, and not about your personal life or circumstances (as this may creep in to indirect discrimination.) Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
  48. 1 point
    Good luck getting it. As far as I'm aware the authority has never been granted. Their only use is Self Defence, and Self Defence is not a lawful reason to possess a firearm in Britain. You MIGHT be allowed in NI, but as I don't work there I'm not familiar with their firearms laws. So basically they're illegal for anyone who doesn't have a policing or military purpose in the UK. TL:DR You're wrong.
  49. 1 point
    Thanks for your support and participation. You will be missed.
  50. 1 point
    Don’t buy any job-specific kit until you get into the swing of things. Except a decent torch because issued ones are absolute garbage. Suggest one of the Amazon deal of the day ones for sub-£10, don’t bother with an LED Lenser. I love both of mine but one was a gift and the other one was a voucher win. Cuff keys nowadays you sometimes get issued a long and a short. See what everyone else has and buy a long one if you don’t get issued, but some are tricky and jam so make sure you see what your team-mates have. You might get issued a kit bag. I snagged a body armour bag and a kit bag when I was a special so didn’t need anything additional. Again, you won’t know what you like until you start working yourself. Some generic things to obtain to keep in your kitbag or body armour before you get going: - a decent durable water bottle - small bottles of antibacterial hand gel - lip balm - good pair of thin gloves for winter, you will likely get issued massive thick ones - emergency rations I.e. cereal bars etc - spare pairs of contact lenses if applicable - a folder to keep ticket books and various forms in, some people use a conference folder (leather binder thing) but I use a plastic folder with multiple pockets as it’s far lighter and I don’t feel bad if it breaks as it was only a fiver) - some good pens Good luck!
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