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  1. 10 points
    It disgusts me on every level that any person feels that they can retrospectively label an act that was consensual at the time as being ‘rape’ after the event on the basis that the other partner did not make full and frank admissions about every aspect of their life. I think that’s why we see so many failed raped prosecutions. Some women feel ‘morally raped’ and then pursue an over egged rape narrative against men whom may be guilty of being ‘ungentlemany’ but were never guilty of criminal rape (not that I ever have much sympathy for the man’s ‘ordeal’- they should have treated their consensual partner with more respect, especially when it is apparent that the threshold for crying rape is so low). Let’s reverse the genders here and look at deception through a different lens- how many women have lied about being on contraception or pierced a condom in order to get pregnant? The legal response isn’t to hold these evil women to account for their ‘rape’ of a man but to pursue the father for maintenance. If in the moment of passion the individual consents then it isn’t rape unless there is deception about the physical identity of the person (e.g. a woman claiming to be a man and simulating sex with a prosthetic or a ‘chick with a deek’). The police service never systematically raped these women. To suggest so is grotesque- especially to REAL victims of rape. Rather, these women dropped their knickers with a sense of (mis)placed entitlement that that they had every right to know every aspect of the personal details of their consensual sexual partner. Everyone knows that you need to take what a prospective partner says with a pinch of salt and if you want a bit of ‘slap and tickle’ then it should be driven by your animal instincts and not by the disclosures others say about themselves (e.g. they have multiple sports cars or a mansion in the country etc.). Is it so hard to believe that the undercover male Officers may have actually fallen for these women and that the love making was genuine in the sense that it was ‘real’ as and when it happened in the heat of the moment? There is a level of nuance here. All this false narrative does is discredit the women whom are pursuing this line of argument. I fully accept that they need an apology- they were disrespected. Perhaps some whom had children need compensation. BUT THEY WERE NOT RAPED.
  2. 8 points
    I still don’t get the hysteria in this country around Taser, from some cops, senior managers, politicians and the media. It’s laughable. Taser isn’t the be all and end all but it a useful piece of kit. I’ve carried it for nearly 5 years operationally now. It of course has its limitations but I’d rather have it than not. I don’t see why I should carry it and my colleague who is going to the same jobs and facing the same risk can’t. If we are saying someone isn’t suitable mentally or physically to carry a Taser then things have gone horrible wrong somewhere. It is the LOWEST use of force available to bring about a resolution to an incident. We trust cops of all service with a baton and spray. People seem fine with that, an incompetent officer swinging a baton around would do far, far more damage than with a Taser. I have to agree with some of the posts too re new recruits being armed from the outset. These sorts of debates make us a laughing stock to the rest of the world, they really do.
  3. 7 points
  4. 7 points
    I’ve just tried to poke myself in the eye with the aerial and failed. I don’t think it’s that much of an issue. Also, my night shift is going slowly.
  5. 5 points
  6. 5 points
    i wish people would stop trying do defend the indefensible. These MP's, including the buffoon Chris Grayling, could always become nurses or part of the thousands of other underpaid yet vital workforce in this country to find out what the term 'underpaid' is, all of which I bet market forces would suggest deserve a higher wage than they do, which has been overturned or ignored by MPs. Might be worth considering that someone on £77,000 a year in addition to expenses and the rest including residences including London, saying they can't afford to live on it should re-evaluate their priorities. Whether it can be argued that the job is worth five times what the pay is is academic and something that can be argued until the cows come home. The fact is there is absolutely no reason whatsoever someone on that salary 'can't afford to live', . They, after all, can make cuts to their lifestyles; what can someone on £15,000 a year do? Whichever way you look at it, it's rank hypocrisy that MPs have been pegging other public sector workers at well below the rate of inflation for years whilst their own incomes have risen out of proportion.. Turn down the rise, forego it. Then perhaps me might accept 'we are all in this together'.
  7. 4 points
    It's OK, the March To Leave will save the day, there's no way parliament can ignore a protest on this scale. The threats of an uprising by those that voted to leave if Brexit doesn't go ahead is an ever present threat but, if it's on this sort of scale then maybe one or two PSU serials should be able to handle it along with one street sweeper to tidy up the mess afterwards?
  8. 4 points
    Diane Abbott would be sat outside Downing Avenue in Cambridge wondering why the PM wasnt answering the door. Buffoon that she is!
  9. 4 points
    It seems Begum's parents what an 'urgent review'. Well, here it is. 'Your daughter knowingly and willingly left these shores to join ISIS, potentially to create atrocities against the country she left and then wanted to come back to, in light of which her UK citizenship was stripped and no other country wanted her, including those of her alleged other citizenship(s). Along the way, she married an ISIS supporting national from the Netherlands.and became pregnant at least twice. She then wanted return to the NHS of the UK with her third impregnation, which if reports are to be believed was not named 'Kurt' or 'David' or 'Anders', but after a renown warlord. Had she remained in the country she now wishes to return to, none of this would ever have happened. Review complete, dated 9th March 2019'.
  10. 4 points
    One of the first inspectors I worked for advocated using whatever legislation necessary to target prolific offenders. I first saw this in action when a prolific burglar was seen late a night in an area affected by burglaries. He was on a push bike, and unbeknownst to me, intoxicated. He was duly stopped searched but there were no theft offences to lock him up for. A more experienced officer locked him up for being drunk whilst cycling (the exact wording I can’t remember). The result was he was off the streets and nobody became a victim of burglary whilst he was in custody. I hope the NPCC are able to speak freely and honest in their meeting with the Home Sec. In order to solve a problem you need to know how it was created. In my opinion this has come about via Tory austerity which has cut youth services and charities that work with young people. The politicisation of the police through PCC’s. The politicisation of stop search by May, Khan, Abbott and Co which has torn through policing. The policing cuts and reduction in officer numbers. I would also add the lack of targeting of drugs supply which has led to an explosion in gangs and the (not so new) phenomena of county lines. The Home sec needs to hear how it is and I hope he does as continuing to tread of egg shells regarding this issue is going to cost lives.
  11. 4 points
    If you’re going to write off a country on the current knife crime epidemic then it is very sad indeed. I’m writing this whilst watching the European indoor athletics where we currently top the medals table. I went to a music concert last week where some of the bands were celebrating near half a century of writing and performing music. We have one of the best arts industries in the world (past and present) including literary. We have some of the best sporting leagues in the world, some of the best universities, the best sporting university. Our military and police forces are respected worldwide. This country has given birth to some of the giants of industry and engineering and we continue to lead the way worldwide in many sectors as well as research. This country pioneered DNA evidence. We still have huge numbers of people who want to come here to study, to live to work. And that’s before you go around the country and look at history, traditions, culture, architecture. If you want to get a grip, go out there and have a look. Sure knife crime is a problem. It has been for a long time and like county lines, something that police have almost allowed to happen. The problem is everyone seems to want to have their tuppence worth of how to treat it or how to cure it. There has been so much hot air from politicians or so called youth workers and community groups who want to blames everyone apart from the perpetrators. But that’s all it’s been - talk. Someone mentioned New York and I hope that was in reference to the zero tolerance days. The police are the ones to solve the problem and it comes from robust, firm, fair and almost zero tolerance style policing. Not pussy footing around the issue thinking it can be solved the bottom up. It needs hard policing supported by the NPCC and the home sec. However, to achieve that we need serious investment. I’m not sure how many more have to die for the government and public to wake up. I’m fed up of hearing about absent fathers or public health problem. That is BS as far as I’m concerned and solves nothing of the hundreds out there that are carrying knives as I type this. The problem is here and now and needs solving here and now.
  12. 4 points
    We will never be representative. Nor should we be: we don’t recruit the elderly, criminals, many disabled people, and so on. Even if we were “representative” in very basic terms are we going to make sure that we have the “right” number of black Caribbean people to black African? What about individual African tribes? The rhetoric is stupidly simplistic and lacks any kind of nuance. Are we saying that to respond to a homophobic hate crime you have to be gay? Or if a Pakistani person is burgled do we have to provide a Pakistani DC to investigate? Of course not, that’s nonsense and offensive. Provided an officer is fair, compassionate, and acts according to law that should be enough. We should treat people according to their needs. It isn’t hard. The rest follows.
  13. 4 points
    Crikey! We’re all capable of making an honest mistake, which this appears to be. That’s enough to put the woolies up anyone. I wouldn’t be concerned if your medical/drug test is as you say, many months away. A small amount of opioid won’t stay in your system that long.
  14. 3 points
    Can anyone clarify for me which one is which #marchtoleave #peoplesvotemarch Don't forget, it is the 'will of the people' so we must leave at all costs.
  15. 3 points
    Well I disagree. Unless of course everybody else gets to choose what role they do because of a perceived risk that hasn’t been spotted by OH. Only allowing pregnant people to do so is clearly sexist. What about my dodgy knee, OH signed me off but it feel safer inside because of my perceived risk of it going again?! See, it nonsense. But then these types of cases always do have unintended consequences so we’ll see how it pans out.
  16. 3 points
    Below is a copy of the Mabot's speech as she originally drafted it! 0111001001000111100100101010101¹1111100101000101011100010101010110010011010110100011110010101010101001101010110110101011010101010101010111100110101010110101010 Personally I found it a bit binary but I hope you all enjoyed it 🤔
  17. 3 points
    In your defence, we've got real guns and even our patrol members would wait outside in similar circumstances. If he started stabbing them, we'd have to go in and shoot him of course. Even with your taser, I wouldn't fancy your chances.
  18. 3 points
    If you study them and have a couple of examples for each competency you won’t forget them. Make sure you’re hitting at least 4 of the bullet points in the competency descriptors. Hitting too little, you won’t pass and hitting too many will make your answer confusing. Tell the recruitment/police officers what you did. Listen to the question and relate each of your Action steps back to the answer to be sure it answers the question. For the result stage of STAR, tell the interviewers what may have happened if you didn’t do what you did. Don’t worry if they prompt you, they just want to know a bit more about the situation and may want to probe you on a couple of details. It’s nerve racking but try and relax. It’s best to hold the cup of water in your hands so it means you’re not fidgeting and take a drink before every answer. The most important bit of advice that anyone will give you is just to be yourself. Good luck
  19. 3 points
    Front line duties do not necessarily mean to be on response. There are a number of options relating to public facing roles that could be offered up, including processing prisoners or statement taking etc. There is a level of nuance as to what options might be made available and such options may be specific to the stage of pregnancy. Like it or not, employers have to make a reasonable adjustment during the ‘protected period’ of pregnancy, which requires a conversation and some creative thinking in terms of identifying options for alternative duties. D&C Police came unstuck because they seemingly prioritised the ‘business needs’ of the organisation, rather than trying to take a nuanced approach to identifying options for discussion and taking into consideration the wishes of the pregnant Officer. I am still a little surprised as to how so many people think that the autonomy of decision making should be taken away from the pregnant Officer and that her wishes seem to feature far down the pecking order having been relegated behind what everyone else seems to think and feel on the issue. So long as nobody else feels uncomfortable then that matters more than the pregnant Officer feels. Decision making should be collaborative and options should be talked through. It’s as simple as that. The key is that the pregnant Officer feels that they played an active role in the decision making and they received appropriate support to make what they consider to be the right decision with all the information made available. I can quiet understand why a pregnant woman would feel peeved off if they were not involved in talking through what they feel is best for them in terms of alternative duties and they are just relegated to a back office role with an accompanying pat on the head with someone saying “there, there- we are thinking of your unborn child”.
  20. 3 points
    As a supervisor how would you feel if any of your cops got injured on duty? I appreciate your viewpoint on the value of life Zulu but you’re acting like pregnant women are precious creatures to be wrapped up in cotton wool because they can’t make their own decisions and a supervisor has to make it for them. Duty of care is about CHOICE. I don’t know how many times I have to make this point. If you have a duty of care over a pregnant woman, your duty is to ensure that she is not placed in a position she doesn’t want to be in. If she wants to be in that position, you’ve done your bit, as long as you maintain the lines of communication and ensure that the choices she has made are still the ones she wants to continue with. Pregnant women shouldn’t be held hostage by their pregnancy, and effectively this is what the tribunal has ruled. We should be permitted to make a decision about our own bodies.
  21. 3 points
    Love stories like this where some idiot gets everything that's coming to them. A memorable job of mine a few years ago I was called over to the platform to deal with three lads who felt it appropriate to take the mickey out of the physical appearance of the railway staff who had initially tried to assist them. I'm talking full on vindictive, cruel bullying, laughing in the young mans face as one of them recorded the encounter on their phone... Real playground nastiness, utter scummy behaviour. The group were typical 'frat boy' types, good looking, wearing nice expensive clothes but very immature (all were in their early 20s) one even tried flirting with the young female probationer who had none of it. We confiscated their train tickets and told them to leave the station, which they refused to do so were ejected under the byelaws thrown out onto the street. I can still see the shock on their faces when it dawned on them they weren't travelling anywhere and would have to find alternative means of getting to wherever it was they were going... They all tried begging and pleading to come back on the station and catch their train but were told in future they'd have to learn to remember how to talk and be civil with people... I got the impression that was the first time anyone had properly stood up to them and told them "No."
  22. 3 points
    1) Practitioners give an opinion on fitness for front line duties. Supervisors and women themselves KNOW what to expect on front line duties. No one is saying that if a practitioner says you are fit then you MUST work. They are saying women should be given the choice. Not obligated to. 2) I appreciate your point but I don’t think it’s plausible to suggest that a female who is currently pregnant cares less about the safety of her pregnancy than supervisors. In this case they have placed the welfare of a pregnancy over the welfare of the female. 3) “Just as a matter of interest” - 100% irrelevant detail which is a perfect example of why this case needs to go to tribunal. You’re missing the point entirely. The issue is about ENABLING women to make a CHOICE. Not about obligating them to do duties. If they don’t want to or can’t do something whilst pregnant then that’s their prerogative.
  23. 3 points
    He has been an absolutely brilliant speaker, not only over this but by defending the rights of backbenchers, preventing the Government steamrolling Parliament, and holding the PM and Government to account.
  24. 3 points
    I'll skip over the small question of how you would know anything about the qualities required to use a taser having retired probably ten years before it was introduced, and focus instead on how the PSNI and so many other countries give all their brand new officers firearms from day one whilst operating under a much less restrictive firearms command structure than we do mostly without issue. Why can they do that, but we apparently can't give people tasers without years of experience?
  25. 3 points
    The signs are looking better for this madness and fantasy chasing to come to an end. Hopefully a vote will be put back to the electorate and we can draw a line under it. Please don’t shoot me down too much, I know it was the will of the people will that huge landslide of a 3.8% majority but maybe we need to take another look now?
  26. 3 points
    Why on God’s green earth are you advising people? In what capacity? On which issues? You clearly know very little about the law, so I suggest legal advice might be somewhat out of your scope.
  27. 3 points
    Whilst I think Javid was wrong to strip her of her citizenship, he is not in anyway culpable for the death of her child. I’m assuming Abbot hasn’t said what she would have done if she was Home Secretary (that makes me shudder)? She’s very quick to point the finger and blame rather than add anything constructive. The baby’s fate was sealed a long time ago. At 9 months pregnant she made a plea to come home. This is well beyond the gestation period allowed to fly. There would have been a period of time post birth that mother and child would have had to wait until deemed safe to fly so the inevitable would have happened regardless. Stripping Begum of her citizenship has nothing to do with her child dying.
  28. 3 points
    Yet another example of a Brexiteer with only ‘17.4M people’, ‘Project Fear’, ‘democracy’ and ‘will of the people’ in their armoury against someone with a logical point of view.
  29. 3 points
    I am so sick of these racist individuals, they are the only ones that make everything about race. For example If you intervene and obstruct officers expect to be dealt with, no matter what skin colour you are. Nothing in the article actually backs up their suggestion of racism. The issue is, as long as these people are out there and given attention the perceived division will continue.
  30. 3 points
    Best thing in this case. Idiot doesn't deserve to have a warrant card.
  31. 3 points
    I had an episode at the end of the shift the other week. Due to some issue with the computer I was unable to log in and it took so long to sort out, I pretty much had to go the whole shift sans technology which put an extra burden on my colleagues who had to do all the typing up and reports. I remember at the end of the shift ringing the control room to update an incident and the person at the other end was flustered and asked in a annoyed tone "why can't you do it yourself??" and explained the IT problems I'd been having.. Anyway all of a sudden as I was leaving another officer asked if I was ok and suddenly I choked and tears came to my eyes. I blurted out how useless I felt, a complete burden to everyone there and wanting to just pack it in. It wasn't just because of a bad day. I know that now, there has been such a lot happening and this was a small thing, the straw which broke the camels back so to speak. You put on a brave face all the time, see and hear unspeakable things which no one else can relate to, be abused by those you are trying to help and comfort victims you have absolute empathy for. Then you take off the uniform and wander if you did the right thing or tried your best. I have some other health issues and one day it might mean having to leave altogether. I dread that day because when the quiet comes what happens? On one hand I get so much from the job as it's like none other. On the other hand, you see so much which leaves you so desensitized and numb. But it's just a fallacy.. underneath it's there.
  32. 3 points
    The thing is here that it isn't just about gang members knifing gang members. Anyone who crosses these individuals, who says the wrong thing to them, or challenges their behaviour becomes a legitimate target. We need zero tolerance and where we know there are gangs or groups who regularly carry weapons we should PACE 1 and harass them out of existence. If we are accused of police harassment, we should acknowledge it as a legitimate tactic to save lives. If it ends up being disproportionate in relation to some people from particular areas or ethnic groups then the problem is with their knife carrying culture and not racism on part of the police. The police has partly caused this issue, with a lot of help from the Maybot, because we significantly reduced S&S for fear of being called racists. It is not racist to target particular groups where carrying weapons is routine. I suspect we will be accused soon by Black Lives Matter of being racist because of the numbers of BAME who are murdered through knife crime. Now the sad murder of this you woman isn't necessarily related to gang culture, but having a zero tolerance across the piste will help prevent similar attacks. We should have one sentencing policy for possession of bladed weapons - Get caught and you're going to jail - mandatory!
  33. 2 points
    New thread to accommodate all Police Scotland related recruitment issues for 2019. Post here if you're - considering applying - in the process - delayed or reapplying - waiting for vetting - going through Tulliallan - back at division Good luck to all!!!
  34. 2 points
  35. 2 points
    The ERG has threatened to strike if May agrees to a long delay. They will not vote in Parliament so those 20 votes will mean the Tories will not have a majority in the house. This would force May to resign and so a GE. People wonder why there’s so much ill feeling and threatening behaviour in society. Our ‘leaders’ act in such a way, albeit ‘polite’ protests but is it really different from ‘Tomeh’ and his mates threatening violence on the streets if they don’t get their way?
  36. 2 points
    I don't think there is normal once you join the police. Certainly the job isn't normal. A shift going from the mundane to sheer terror or madness in minutes. Going to serious RTAs and seeing dead and mangled bodies, or giving a relative a death message and that's before you think about the violence and cruelty man can can force on another person. For me there are many normals dependent upon what you have seen or dealt with. In reality what we might consider different in ourselves is merely a transition to a new normal. I have always had a strong sense of humour and in my younger days I was a funster, never serious and eternally optimistic, but now I am pessimistic, hard faced, relatively unshockable, and far too serious for my own good. Yes some of this is maturity and age catching up with, but most has been the jobs I have done. For me what's not normal is the job we do. The things I once considered normal seem alien to me now.
  37. 2 points
    A tribunal agreed she’d been discriminated against, so from a lawful standpoint, she’s got a case. Parochial raises some excellent points, as clinical as his standpoint may be, it should primarily be a decision made by the woman, with the assistance and agreement of her doctor and her manager. Some of you have raised the issue of, “oh but it’s unfair on her colleagues because what if she loses the baby”. Well, ok, but when one of us hurts, we all hurt in this job. Guilt doesn’t play a part. It’s not your colleagues’ job to say, “I don’t think you should work because I’m not comfortable” and I appreciate we all want to protect each other but saying you feel guilt because your colleague lost their baby working front line is like saying you feel guilt they broke their leg working front line. As a woman working in the job, there is a HUGE issue around pregnancy and maternity. Our maternity pay is not exactly competitive, as soon as you get pregnant you inevitably get sidelined into a rubbish job you don’t want and you never asked for, and this decision is made without you often without much notice. There’s a number of opportunities that women could go in to when they are pregnant (you’re not exactly pregnant in the short term are you) but for some reason in this job we want them put in cupboards and forgotten about. It’s like your career is entirely forgotten about. Hopefully this goes some way to rectifying this.
  38. 2 points
    Any queries just ping them in and I’m sure some of the alumni of Castle Greyskull will happily assist...
  39. 2 points
    An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind
  40. 2 points
    Is no one going to question why if they both went for a Chinese buffet why they would he message her saying saying “we ate lashings and lashings of Chinese grub” She was there, yes? If the emails restarted at 2.17pm then I need to know where this buffet is that’s open at 9.30am. Move over maccies breakfast, it’s all about the all-you-can-eat Chinese buffet... Also who uses the word “scrumptious” especially in Essex And fancy texting the wrong bloke! What a muppet! A DC as well? Too many questions, not enough caffeine...
  41. 2 points
  42. 2 points
    You're all wrong. Justice for @rockythunder !! Free the PINS notice one !
  43. 2 points
    The vast majority of people wanted a referendum before Cameron promised one. Why? Would they have been wanting a referendum if they had been content being in the EU? Of course not. All three major parties had, at different times, promised a referendum, but David Cameron only promised one because he thought he would be in a coalition with Nick Clegg who would stop him from keeping his word. Then they wonder why people hold politicians in such contempt. We had our referendum in 2016 and Leave won in spite of the vast machinery of the state and the Establishment kicking in to urge people to vote to remain. A year later, May called an election and both major parties went into that promising to implement the referendum. In that election, these two parties did the best, winning 84% of the popular vote while the two parties who wanted to remain, the Lib Dems and SNP, did poorly. There are several possibilities for a post-EU Britain, but nobody voted for a BRINO - why would they? May accepted the job as party leader and prime minister on the strength of promises that she would implement Brexit. She promised that she would appoint a Brexit supporter as a senior member of the cabinet to oversee the process, repeated that Brexit means Brexit, and she assured people that there would be no attempt to stay in the EU by the back door. Her Mansion House speech confirmed that intention, and then she performed a hideous U-turn. Behind her own Brexit ministers' backs, she colluded with Angela Merkel, had top civil servants working on a secret plan to create a fudged Brexit and then steamrollered that through her cabinet at Chequers. This is a plan nobody wanted and she is still presenting a re-heated version and trying to force-feed it to MPs accompanied with threats of either no Brexit or no deal. Tonight, her chickens may have come home to roost if she loses this as her deal will be dead. I can't predict how this will pan out - nobody can. If, having lost the vote, she were determined to push for a no-deal Brexit, she could well win that. MPs can have a vote - but they have no legal veto to stop no-deal unless she chooses to give them one. For both practical and selfish reasons, I would rather the UK leaves the EU with a deal, but there is no longer one that is on the table within the time available and that would be acceptable. As such, in spite of the immediate difficulties that would present in terms of disruptions, I think a no-deal would be the best outcome at this time.
  44. 2 points
    @AHussain Have you received a date for your SET's yet? Take a look at the link below for BBC Skillswise, it's aimed at adult learners but it has simplified factsheets which talk you through how to work through a calculation, and then some handy worksheets to practice. It can really help just understanding different ways to tackle a question. It can help if there's a particular area you are not as strong in. For me it was the time, distance, speed questions... but practicing over the past week has really helped. http://www.bbc.co.uk/skillswise/maths Also, not sure where you are but there are some recruitment events on over the next month or so, which may be able to offer you some reassurance and support. I did notice they had a day where you could give the fitness test a bash. Depends where you are and if you have the available time, but something to consider... https://www.scotland.police.uk/recruitment/events
  45. 2 points
    In the US, a leading organisation for black people is the NAACP - the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, so clearly this term is acceptable there. The fact that a word is regarded by some as out-of-date in the UK is not reason enough to rebuke someone who uses it with no intention to cause offence and i say that as someone who is no cheerleader for Mrs Rudd. Free speech means the freedom to use the vocabulary in one's own language as one sees fit within reason.
  46. 2 points
    If people realise that it isn’t acceptable by modern standards to refer to black people as ‘coloured’, then my own view is that they are doing it to provoke a reaction and to normalise the use of such language. Perhaps you could get away with such ‘clumsy use of language’ 10 years ago, but to do so today is nothing other than a deliberate act.
  47. 2 points
    Parochial has a point Zulu22. Don't know how long you have been out of the job but the use of the term coloured is 20 years out of date and now pretty much universally ground upon. Indeed white people when we are envious we are green, embarrassed we go red, cold we go blue, angry we go purple, scared we lose all colour, cowardly we go yellow, so who really are the coloured people? Black people are black and identify as black. We are a little more subtle about ethnic descriptors these days.
  48. 2 points
    Very endearing I must say - but I'm not sold on it. If you look around you you'll see there are plenty of reasons to argue that this country no longer deserves such a title, if numerous, random murders isn't reason enough. It's frankly a joke being run by inept clowns.
  49. 2 points
    Officers should be permitted to carry their PPE off duty if they're prepared to do so. At least that way they can do more if they happen to be in the right place at the right time. They're trained constables, if they can be trusted with such equipment on duty then they can be trusted with it off duty, they don't suddenly change character as soon as they clock off.
  50. 2 points
    The key phrase is here: 'The force's claim it had seen 127 candidates who were equally suitable for the role of police constable was a "fallacy", the tribunal ruled, and imposing such an artificially low threshold - assigning candidates a pass or fail rather than any kind of score - was not a proportionate response to addressing the force's lack of diversity.' So the idea seems to be to set the passmark very low to ensure that there's a large number of 'successful applicants' then pick out the ones you want. In this case it was ethnic minority candidates, but using the same methodology you could recruit whoever you wanted: women, dwarves, left-handed people or the Chinese. The problem with picking potential police officers solely on merit in a place like Cheshire is that with the best will in the world, you're not going to get many who aren't white. Finally, why on earth would anyone think that young, dynamic, ambitious people from immigrant communities would want to join the police? Surely they would be aiming a bit higher than that.

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