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England & Wales

  1. IrateShrike
    Started by IrateShrike +,

    Following on from Fry and gordon's contributions to this thread: http://www.policespecials.com/forum/index.php?/topic/132950-motorcyclists-with-video-cameras-power-to-seize-footage/ Here is the example: PC Smith seizes some beer from some underage kids in the street. At the time, he is satisified that all the requirements are made to lawfully take it, and pours it away and puts the empties in a bin in full view of the kids. He makes no written record at all of the seizure. A few weeks later, one of the kids makes a complaint that PC Smith stole the beer from them. PC Smith is investigated and when interviewed, explains his actions and demonstrates that they were law…

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  2. prolixia
    Started by prolixia,

    Some time ago I read an entertaining story of a woman who was caught out when falsely reporting of the theft of her iPhone in order to pay for an upgrade then gets out her 'stolen' phone to check an address whilst making the report. In the story, the woman is nicked by one of the specials for "making a false report". I'd always assumed that the actual offence she was nicked for was Wasting Police Time, but that's never sat quite right with me because I'd always believed that a significant amount of time needed to have been wasted before the CPS would touch it - much more than a few minutes at the front desk as in the above tale. Today I finally got round to checking th…

    • 2 replies
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    Smiley Culture +
  3. Administrative Account
    Started by Administrative Account,

    As most of you will know I now have a motorbike and we were talking about the fact you often see cyclists and motorbikers with cameras on crash helmets more and more often. A friend of mine brought up a rumour that police can seize the footage from this to help make the case for the rider driving without due care or speeding. My first thoughts are of course we can. I know that there has been a lot around seizing of cameras and footage around terrorism but is there a power in this case to seize footage?? Your thoughts please

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  4. bobbiepeel
    Started by bobbiepeel,

    You have pulled over to the side of the road not in the way of traffic, however the engine is still running and you are on your phone. is this an offence?

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  5. gingerhobo45
    Started by gingerhobo45,

    I'm a member of Joe Public, at my wit's end with worry over an ongoing bullying issue between my 13 yr old daughter and a former friend.This bullying has mostly taken the form of threats , sent via Blackberry (when my daughter had her on her BBM) and now she has deleted her, via friends telling her what girl is saying about her.There was an incident about 3 weeks ago when bully, got a 16 yr old girl to threaten my daughter out on the street which caused her a lot of humiliation as she made her get down on her knees and beg forgiveness.My daughter kept saying no, she wouldn't do it to the girl she knows but because the older girl is bigger she felt intimidated and did it a…

  6. wadplotkin
    Started by wadplotkin * ,

    Hello Dear colleagues. Really need your help. I bought a car from the insurance company with a category C. I did not know that there is no V5 logbook. The car was paid through the bank, the seller is 500 miles from me, the car was delivered by courier. So back I did not do it. The car on the move, Edith perfect. Damaged front bumper, front headlight and front fender. How can I get a logbook? What is the procedure that is to be done? I do not need to change the bumper, fender and headlight, as the car will go to another country. Can I get a logbook without replacing these parts? thanks in advance. Vlad

  7. CraigP
    Started by CraigP,

    Can someone point me in the direction of the legislation that gives police officers an exemption from wearing a seat belt? Thanks

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  8. Shikari
    Started by Shikari +,

    Hey guys, Just a quick one that slipped by me at training, and came up at a job a few weeks ago... What satute/common law allows Police access to land, mainly front lawns etc? Am I right in thinking it's only if you suspect someone involved in a crime (in this case willful obstruction of a driveway- dropped curb)? Or do the Police have the same implied permission as Postmen/Milkmen. If someone (as they did) dememnded we left their property obviously that implied permission goes, so what allows us to stay. I keep drifting to thinking PACE. Cheers everyone,

    • 14 replies
    • 1.1k views
  9. N1ck
    Started by N1ck,

    Does anyone know of anywhere or any case law for section 1 PACE? Or any articles of illigitmate S+S? or any articles of S1 PACE working??!!!?! HHEEEEELLLLPPPPP!

    • 1 reply
    • 874 views
  10. Pulpculture
    Started by Pulpculture,

    Police Powers and the Setting of Cordons Case Law The police are entitled to set up cordons prohibiting a public right of way for the purpose of securing and preserving evidence, and are also entitled to assume that the required consent of private land-owners would be given. DPP v Morrison (April 2003) was an appeal to the Court of Appeal against the decision of the Crown Court to overturn the defendants’ conviction under the Public Order Act 1986. Police were called to the scene of a fight between two groups of males, which took place within a shopping precinct. The fight involved a stabbing and as a result the police cordoned off the area. The precinct, which was …

    • 4 replies
    • 7.9k views
  11. bg13wa
    Started by bg13wa * ,

    Hi there I would really appreciate some advise on my situation please, my ex and I have young baby and after he was born she became really controlling and after a few arguments, i decided to leave as it was too stressful and distressing. I told her a few days later that I would be going through a solicitor to ask for contact, which I assumed would be decided through the courts because of her control issues. On hearing my plans she got in touch with social services to say she was 'scared' of me and they advised her to contact the police. She says that she spoke to the police but because she didn't want to proceed with anything they would not contact me and have had no cont…

  12. ldb225
    Started by ldb225,

    Right, quick question as I can't really seem to get a consensus in the nick. Section 27 - As well as providing the power to direct persons to leave an area, it also makes an amendment to S64A of PACE allowing for you to take photographs of persons given a direction under this section. 64A PACE goes on to say that this can be done with or without consent and that if any face coverings are worn they can be removed. presuming that consent is not given I would suggest that if necessary and proportionate - reasonable force can be used to take the photograph as this is a power under PACE and falls within S117. now my question is this: if a person is covering their face by r…

    • 4 replies
    • 944 views
    Administrative Account
  13. Militroncho
    Started by Militroncho,

    Hi!!!!! I´m a Police Officer in Mallorca. A few days ago we stopped a car for speeding and the driver showed us the section 10 of the vehicle registration filled in 28 of january of 2011 and he hasn´t the new registration certificate yet. Could the vehicle be used with that section???? How many time has the new keeper for applying the new V5C and drive the car with the section 10?? Where can I find the law and the article wich gives me that information??? Thanks in advance!!!

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  14. Sweenie
    Started by Sweenie,

    Here's a random question for you all... Let's say two blokes are getting on each other's nerves and decide to settle their differences in the time-honoued manner with a straight-up, fair fight. One bloke suggests that they 'step outside' and the other agrees. They then find a quiet place and settle their differences. In such a case, what offence is actually being committed? They both agree to the fight, so it can't be assault, and if it's not in public, then no S.5 POA etc or BOP. Don't get me wrong, I'm not the fighting type. But I've always wondered if the police would take any interest in a fair fight or if they would still recognise it as a legitimate way to settle…

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  15. Guest Thatguy
    Started by Guest Thatguy,

    Hi guys! hopefully a nice nitty gritty one! If an individual purchases an RIF (Realistic Imitation Firearm) for the use of target shooting on private land, with the permission from the owner and the tenant, AND are over the age of 18, are they committing an offence? (it would most likely shoot bb pellets, it is NOT classed as a lethal barrelled weapon, pellets do not travel further than the boundaries of the property, and the firearm cannot be converted or modified into a lethal barrelled weapon) The Violent Crime Reduction Act makes it an offence for an individual/company to manufacture, import, or sell realistic imitation firearms (s36), unless they claim a s37 defen…

    • 10 replies
    • 3.1k views

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