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  1. oscar24

    AFO transfer

    Has anyone made the jump to the Met AFO? Enjoy it or regret it? TYIA
  2. XA84

    Firearms Query

    Hey all, I was recently at a police training site where we were shown around all of the specific training areas including firearms. It's been my life long dream to become a firearms officer (yes I know I'm in for a hard slog) but I'm wondering if there is any pre-requisites to becoming an AFO? I'm aware of all of the usual stuff like having to have a good service record etc but I'm curious to know if you can join if you have a fear of heights, sounds daft I know but I noticed at this training site there was an abseil tower.
  3. In this interview with LBC today, Sir Bernard Hogan Howe says in the next few weeks he will announce plans to have a 'mobile armed capability', where 'some officers will have an extra skill'. This seems to be the first hint at having current non-AFO's trained in the use of firearms so they can be called upon as and when needed, my thinking is it will begin with units such as the TSG.
  4. Take a seat. It's a positive news story about the police http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/armed-police-officer-chose-stabbed-5367176 Speedy recovery hoped for.
  5. If you opened The Telegraph or The Times on 7 February, or the Daily Mail andIndependent on 8 Feb, you may have felt a fleeting sense of déjà-vu. For no apparent reason an article from last year about 'routine' armed police attending non firearms related incidents, has been regurgitated in the Times by journalist Fiona Hamilton and Camilla Turner in the Telegraph. They have such startling similarities; you'd hope they didn't sit next to each other during their university exams. Anyway we say regurgitated because if you actually know your stuff, there's no real reason for this 'old story' to have popped up again in The Times/Telegraph via Fiona and Camilla, unless it's a stock police story of course, for a slow news day, editorial direction or just lazy reporting. This debate was initiated in Scotland last August and overseen by the SPA and it culminated in October 2014 with HMICS publishing a 'Review of Standing Firearms Authority for Armed Response Crews within Scotland'. As was with the Scottish legacy forces 'Standing Authorities' are reviewed regularly by English and Welsh forces under their FSTRA- Firearms Strategic Threat and Risk Assessments. They take into account the various threats and risks, as you'd expect from the title, plus a whole raft of operational reasons as to why it's reasonable for police officers with car keys to a mobile armoury, to actually have their sidearm's handy, instead of locked away in a steel box inside the aforementioned mobile armoury. The Times and Telegraph both spookily comment on the 'Americanisation' of our traditional way of policing, and I'm sorry, but that's just plain daft. In perspective there are a mere handful of armed response crews out and about on patrol in the UK, and this bears absolutely no resemblance whatsoever to any US policing model. The population of England and Wales is nearly 58million and we've got just over 3000 armed officers, of which only fraction are actually out on patrol on any given shift crewing ARV's going to routine calls. Last summer in Scotland where the debate began, some politicians and a newspaper took to conflating the issue that a fraction of their 275 armed officers were supporting 'routine' policing. It was conflated by a frankly ridiculous line that there were 'growing concerns' that these were 'ordinary' police and were becoming routinely armed by stealth without public knowledge, consultation or consent. This shocking revelation was supported by various photos of armed officers in public, assisting unarmed colleagues with 'routine' policing. Thankfully this was rebutted by Scottish Justice Minister Kenny MacAskill who had astutely realised that the whole issue was a political football being capitalised upon and manipulated by some for their own ends. A pragmatic and 'defiant' response by Scotland's' Chief Constable Steve House tried to help common sense prevail. However in a hollow victory for the detractors and hysterics the review of the 'Standing Authority' did indeed bring in some changes, and bizarrely enough as far as public safety is concerned the amendments are for the worse. The review, as you might expect for common sense reasons, allowed the armed officers to actually go out on patrol instead of making them sit at the police station waiting for a call out. However the hollowness of the victory is that although those same police officers are 'allowed' out they're restricted to attending only at 'life or death' calls and where their firearms are required. The reality of this is that Scotland is rather a big place, so now picture yourself awakened at 3am by the noise of intruders downstairs, pick up the phone and dial 999 - if you live in a rural area especially you'd be forgiven for feeling rather vulnerable, but don't worry the police are on their way, unfortunately they're about 25 miles away but will try and get there as fast as they can. Coincidentally the Armed Response Vehicle for your area, is a lot closer and double crewed in a high performance car, but unfortunately now they not allowed come to your aid because your burglary is not a life or death firearms incident - cue the slow handclap for the Scottish politicians. Anyway the next day (if you're okay) you can write to your MSP and thank them for being concerned (on your behalf) that 'attending routine incidents has a negative impact on community relations and safety'. Meanwhile in England and Wales you will continue to see ARV crews at routine incidents, whether they're first on the scene at a serious traffic collision or the first cops through the door when you're being punched into unconsciousness by a violent partner. Armed Police attending to calls simply as police officers isn't recorded because it's irrelevant; it's not a firearms deployment so it measures nothing. (It won't show in a FOI request) In fact you'll see it a lot more now because there are 17,000 less police officers available to go to those 'routine calls' and armed officers are mucking in just to help make things work, and that's the real cause for concern in this whole silly contrived story. Something that never seems to get mentioned in the media, is that the notice boards in Firearms Units up and down the country humbly displaying hundreds of letters of thanks and cards from victims and families - and guess what, they have absolutely nothing to do with those officers being armed. ARV crews have advanced life saving equipment and pre-hospital trauma skills which enable them to treat serious injuries and gunshot wounds, and those letters and cards are from families whose loved ones have been treated, and on many occasions saved by ARV officers. When police officers are desperately attempting resuscitation at a collapse in the high street, absolutely no one notices or even cares that that they're wearing sidearms. So if you're worried about 'Americanisation' or anxious that at your time of need, it might be an ARV coming to your aid - get writing to the Times, Telegraph and others or your MP, oh and don't forget next time you're stood at the check-in desk and you see the airport police strolling through the Terminal chatting, try to control your hysteria in case you fall over in your flip flops. The 4Policing Team have former Strategic and Tactical Firearms Commanders and Tactical Advisors on hand, so instead of making up sources, quotes or using old ones from other articles we'd be happy to assist the media with questions and our expertise. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mike-pannett/armed-police_b_6644144.html?utm_hp_ref=tw Follow Mike Pannett on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikepannett
  6. Senior officers believe more firearms officers may be needed in the wake of the terror attacks in Paris. The Metropolitan Police is considering training public order officers to use firearms to create a "reserve capability" to cope with terrorist attacks. Met Commissioner Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe confirmed the force is examining options to create additional firearms capacity in the wake of the terror attacks in Paris and the increased terror threat in the UK. After the 2012 Olympics, Scotland Yard reduced the number of certified firearms officers by around 750 - but senior officers believe a surge in firearms capacity may now be needed. Police and the security services have long feared a mass-casualty gun and bomb attack - like the atrocity in Mumbai, India, in 2008 - could be carried out in Britain. The recent attacks by gunmen in Paris, which claimed 17 lives, have increased concern in the UK about the potential for a similar attack this side of the Channel. The Territorial Support Group (TSG) provide uniformed support across London. They are highly trained officers who specialise in large-scale public disorder, mass protests and major sporting events. Previously, some TSG officers were firearms trained, helped out with counterterrorism patrols, and provided support to the dedicated firearms unit, SCO19. However that role ended as the number of firearms officers were reduced in London in the last few years. Giving evidence to members of the London Assembly, Sir Bernard said it was time to look again at enhancing its firearms capability, adding the force was reviewing its counterterrorism policing levels. "The TSG were a firearms reserve for a long time," he said. "They'd been trained for firearms jobs in case we needed a pool of people as a surge capacity. "Our broad view was that prior to the UK terror threat level being raised to severe, that was something we no longer needed. It is something we will now look at again, post the severe threat assessment." Sir Bernard also confirmed Scotland Yard is in discussions with the Home Office over the number of people and buildings requiring firearms protection. "Now that the threat level has been increased, we will have to look again at whether more people and places require additional firearms protection," he said. But he added any decision on enhanced protection for VIPs and sensitive buildings, which have to be sanctioned by the Home Office, would have to be supported by additional funds from central government. The Commissioner told Assembly members he estimated tens of millions of pounds would be required to boost the UK's counterterrorism policing capability. However, he said he was optimistic more funds would be made available by government as part of a recent £130m extra security funding announced in response to the increased terror threat to the UK. http://news.sky.com/story/1417383/met-riot-police-could-get-firearms-training
  7. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-30947899 Two police officers who bludgeoned an injured deer to death have been removed from firearms duties after being found guilty of gross misconduct. Andrew Pittilla and Brian Clewlow were sent to destroy the animal, which was believed to have been hit by a vehicle at Tanfield Lea in June. They struck the deer several times with a large blunt tool, believed to be a crowbar, rather than using a firearm. Durham Police said the officers had brought "discredit upon the force". A misconduct hearing was told that the officers, both of whom have extensive firearms experience, were sent to deal with an injured deer on 9 June. They remained with the deer, thought to have been hit by traffic, until it managed to stand on "weak legs". After receiving some advice from an animal welfare expert, they carried the animal into nearby woodland where they hoped it would recover. 'Animal's best interests' On 11 June police received another report of an adult deer lying on the road and the same officers were sent to the scene. The hearing accepted they rightly assumed the deer was the same animal as before. The officers, intending to make sure the deer was dead and not suffering further, struck the animal several times with a large blunt tool. They said their actions were in the "best interests of the animal" and that neither gained "any satisfaction" from the circumstances. The panel was "satisfied" the actions of the officers were not "borne from cruelty", although the accepted practice of dispatching the animal with a firearm was not followed. Ron Hogg said the case had caused "disgust and distress" A police spokesman said: "Durham Constabulary regrets the actions of the officers. Our partnership with the public and its confidence in police actions is paramount to us. "We expect our officers to adhere to the code of ethics, which defines our legitimacy, at all times." The officers, who will remain on a final written warning for 18 months, were moved to other duties after the allegation was made. Durham Police and Crime Commissioner Ron Hogg said the case had caused "disgust and distress". He said: "The constabulary have dealt with it in an extremely diligent and professional way, and left the two officers in no doubt that their behaviour was unacceptable and unbecoming of a police officer. "Due to one act of stupidity, they have gone from having long, clean and commended records to being on their final warning - and stripped of their firearms responsibilities." I have faced this issue before. Injured deer on the side of the road. Can i get a deer man, no. Can i get firearms, no. What do i do now? Do i wait for the animal to die a slow and painful death because i will be done over by my force if i despatch it myself. Or do i eat a misconduct from my force, who has sent me to deal with the deer and kill it.
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