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  1. Thousands of police officers and civilian staff have never undergone stricter criminal record and background checks, despite the fact that they were introduced in 2006, the BBC has found. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47073883
  2. Hi guys, I've been given a conditional offer and a start date in October to become a BTP PCSO in inner London. I've passed my medical and I am just waiting for my vetting. Does anyone know how long vetting will usually take for PCSOs? I'm on holiday for a few weeks in September and would need to give my notice in before I go away as it would be too late to do so within my notice period when I get back. Another question I have, sorry if this should be in a separate post - it's my first post - is about progressing in BTP. I have aspirations to move from PCSO to PC in a couple of years on the job, however would this be possible considering in 2020 you will need a degree to be a police officer? Thanks for your time.
  3. Rupert88

    Failed vetting - Appeal in 7 days

    Hello I am unsure from the letter provided by a non Met force whether it is myself that has failed the vetting or a third party, so it is very difficult for me to write the appeal. The letter is from the recommended letter which forces now issue following the new guidance issued in Oct 2017. app.college.police/uk/app-content/professional-standards/vetting/ 'The purpose of vetting is to provide an acceptable level of assurance as to the integrity of individuals who have access to police data etc. Detailed checks are carried out on the applicant, family members, associates and their addresses.' (I live with my parents during university time and in halls at Uni, I have no siblings or step parents). 'Any information held on police systems will be considered when looking at an individual's suitability. Information has come to light during the examination of all of the particulars supplied by you for this process to be undertaken, which has been risk assessed and has resulted in your application being terminated'. I have been allowed 7 days in which to appeal. My parents have not had any dealings with the police apart from speeding points on their licences over 10 years ago, these were not declared. None of us have any debts, bad credit scores etc., so we are confident it is not financial. The only other thing I could think of is that it could be a friend in my FB profile which I know nothing about, or I have forgotten to disclose an old social media account like you-tube. How far does vetting extend in the family? I am wondering whether I have anyone else cousins, aunts/uncles who may have convictions/points/fines etc. Can anyone shed any light on the failed vetting please? Because of the Christmas holidays, I am unable to make contact with anyone in the vetting department now and time is running out. Many thanks for the relies.
  4. Reina1901

    vetting form

    hi there Anyone knows what the vetting process requires? I mean what they check except criminal records, I am wondering if we are allowed to be on a dating website.
  5. Hello, Could some one please explain the difference between PNC subject access and PND which I believe stands for Police National Database, more of a local check. I have recently applied and received my PNC subject access, and I was then told if you want to find out what information is held about you on you local police force, you will have to apply through them directly. I want to find out what can be held in the system about you that It wouldn’t show on your subject access? Is it like each time you been spoken to by the police they made a record of it? Or if you have had disagreement with a officer in past about something? Or what exactly does it record? I have recently applied to become SC and have passed everything so far. I’m currently going through vetting and a bit worried as you would be, as I understand vetting can fail you for a lot of different reasons. Thanks in advance. A
  6. Simoncole3

    (Another) Vetting query

    Hi guys, sorry for another vetting quary/sob story but any optimism/supportwould be hugely appreciated. Here goes.. so I applied back in August to become a Special Constable for Avon and Somerset police. Passed the online test, went to open evening; all good. Then had the paper sift; this time last year when I applied I failed at this point however this year the god/s were looking down on me and I got through. Result. Next came the assesment centre at HQ. Was super nervous, didn’t know how I fared. Got my results last Wednesday; I smashed it! 5/15 A’s 9 B’s and 1 C(50% I’m serving the public, very close to failing). 78% overall, 55% is a pass for this constabulary so pretty good I think. However, here comes the hiccup; the vetting. Issues number 1; back in 2012 I got a fine for drunken disorderly; got caught peeing down an allyway on a NYE night out. Really stupid, biggest regret of my life so far. Issue no 2; about 3 months ago I got caught running a red by a traffic camera. Again so stupid. I took the ‘What’s driving us course’ in lieu of points and a fine. So still have zero points on my licence. Issue no 3. My dad. He went to Borstal when he was a kid, no idea what for, he’s never told me. We live approx 250 miles away and we only see each other a couple times a year. Small caveat on this; my Grandma is a magistrate and I assumed her and her family woild of been vetted for her role; if so then she passed. So shouldnt be too much of a hiccup I (really) hope. It does say on the A & S vetting page on their website that the main people that fail vetting are people that have had FPNs within the last 5 years. I clearly fail in this department so is there any point even going to the physical/medical/ biometrical testing in a couple of weeks if I’m likely to fail at vetting? any words of wisdom, optimism would be greatly welcomed
  7. quickdantheman

    SC - Appeal Process/Rights On Vetting?

    Hi All, Firstly a huge thank you to all who are currently serving this Country, under any role that is currently within a police force, I truly admire what you represent. My joining this site is very recent, and a last port of call if I am completely honest. I have had to many knockbacks now over the years, but most recent is vetting. I am told as an external applicant that I have no right of appeal, & that section 6 of some type of act 1996 there is no reason to disclose the decision to myself. Added to this, I am informed that under no circumstances, in any capacity or post am I able to apply to this force again, I am stunned!. I have sought local assistance via my local MP, which at first looked promising etc, with the avenue of data protection, right of appeal, subject to access form etc.............. Sadly this concluded my MP informed me with the Chief Constable himself explaining via telephone, that the decision was final, that I am not of suitability in the role of constable and there was no right of appeal? Is there anyone out there, that can look at this ethically and explain to me where I go now. I am confused, as I currently work as a volunteer in an organisation that works from the same office as police. So I can pass a CRB but not vetting? Confused.......................? Appreciate any advice
  8. quickdantheman

    SC - Appeal Process/Rights On Vetting?

    Hi All, Firstly a huge thank you to all who are currently serving this Country, under any role that is currently within a police force, I truly admire what you represent. My joining this site is very recent, and a last port of call if I am completely honest. I have had to many knockbacks now over the years, but most recent is vetting. I am told as an external applicant that I have no right of appeal, & that section 6 of some type of act 1996 there is no reason to disclose the decision to myself. Added to this, I am informed that under no circumstances, in any capacity or post am I able to apply to this force again, I am stunned!. I have sought local assistance via my local MP, which at first looked promising etc, with the avenue of data protection, right of appeal, subject to access form etc.............. Sadly this concluded my MP informed me with the Chief Constable himself explaining via telephone, that the decision was final, that I am not of suitability in the role of constable and there was no right of appeal? Is there anyone out there, that can look at this ethically and explain to me where I go now. I am confused, as I currently work as a volunteer in an organisation that works from the same office as police. So I can pass a CRB but not vetting? Confused.......................? Appreciate any advice
  9. junior_7178

    A couple of basic questions if i may?

    I'm planning to apply to either Cheshire Constabulary or BTP later this year as a Special Constable. BTP are holding Recruitment Seminar in April that is an evening event aimed at giving potential candidates an opportunity to ask questions etc. Has anybody been to one of these events, either with BTP, Cheshire Constabulary, or another force? I'm trying to find out what people usually wear to this type of event. Whilst I'm sure there will be people there remembering faces etc, i hope that anybody attending is not actually assessed and therefore the evening will not be too formal. You might think that's a stupid question, but I've changed size and shape since i last wore a suit about 10 years ago, and I'd prefer not to have to for out £100 on a suit for 2 hrs to then find out I'm not going to apply and therefore never need the suit again. Also, i realise sometimes it's important to blend in and not stand out. I'd prefer not to be the only who turns up in a suit, or indeed the only person who doesnt! Second question. In 2009 i received a £80 Fixed Penalty Notice for 'USING DISORDERLY BEHAVIOUR LIKELY TO CAUSE DISTRESS'. Whilst i appreciate it is what it says on the tin, I'd just like to point out on here that i was a SGT in the Armed Forces and one of my junior soldiers had been ejected from a nightclub. I went with him as he was kicking off and i planned to calm him down and put him in a taxi. I had my 'hands full' with him and a bobby on Nightime Economy Patrol took great pleasure in giving us BOTH a FPN. At the time i was quite aggrieved, but my commanding officer laughed it off the next day and that was the last time i ever thought about it until i decided to apply to be a Special. Is this FPN likely to cause me a blanket rejection. If so, would that be at initial application stage, or at vetting? Or is it not as obvious as that and could be force dependant? So to clarify, what do i wear to a Recruitment Seminar, and can i be a Special with an £80 FPN?
  10. PoliceHopeful

    Social Media Vetting

    Hi, If you're applying for the police should you have social media accounts? I have heard its best to close them down but unsure if this is true? Thanks
  11. Jon825

    The Waiting Game

    Hi all Currently in the process of joining Cleveland Police as a new entry PC. I passed the force medical on Monday and sent references/vetting forms off back in February so as far as I know just waiting now! Been told there are various intakes throughout the year but nothing concrete yet. Anybody else in the same situation? And anyone else been through the whole process recently know how long it takes to hear back that everything is done and to be offered a start date? Many Thanks in advance
  12. Spiros

    Vetting

    Hello guys, I would like to ask if, in the vetting process, the police checks someone's details in another country. For example, I am greek. Would the police contact the greek police authorities to verify my details? Many thanks in advance, Spiros
  13. Spiros

    Vetting

    Hello guys, I would like to ask if, in the vetting process, the police checks someone's details in another country. For example, I am greek. Would the police contact the greek police authorities to verify my details? Many thanks in advance, Spiros
  14. Hey, I was hoping someone could share some light. I have done my day 2 8 weeks ago and I have heard nothing. My current specials force have told me the met have contacted them, so I'm guessing I'm going through vetting. How long does this take and what are peoples experiences in this stage? Thank you
  15. Hello, first-time post... I am a serving member of the met (PCSO) which I joined with a view to becoming a PC. Passed all of my assessments; now I have received an email saying I failed my vetting. I know why it is (although third party info can't be given by vetting)... My dad got arrested in the year between my PCSO vet and now. I was so disgusted I moved house ASAP, but there has not been a resolution to the case yet (no bail, no charge, no conviction or NFA) I severed contact with my father from this time; only seeing him at Christmas (and that was to read some of his documents for my appeal) What I would like to know is (and I appreciate these are opinions and shan't be taken as gospel) how you think my appeal will do... I have followed ACPO & ACPOS national vetting procedures for the policing community as well as met-specific SOP and quoted both to show that I took every step practicable to distance myself. I am already in a public facing role and have access to sensitive data already and my integrity has never been called into question (I have attached character reference from two sergeants) My appeal is based on a 'perverse decision' as per form 7288 - Appeal form. ACPOS SOP 17 - Third Party Risk Assessment points such as lack of knowledge of activity have been discussed (I didn't have a clue) but my fear is that they will refuse me because a family member is currently under investigation. I have never had dealings with police (apart from my job of course) and neither has anyone else I know. I have heard that the Met are really good when it comes to balanced decisions and I pray that they see that my current service is exemplary and I have done nothing wrong.. Of course they may just refuse as there is an ongoing investigation into a family member. I loathe being in this position that is not my doing. Any similar stories/success stories to keep my spirits up? Any posts at all would be good! Thanks in advance
  16. So for any Officer role you are re-vetted every X amount of years. In my Force it is every 5 years. Question is, what happens if you fail? Specifically, for the case where it isn't your fault e.g. family members. Surely it's unfair to be blamed for someone else's actions.
  17. st4783

    Online vetting

    Hello. Just a quick question about the online vetting to see where everyone else is. I had my medical on the 20th of July and still haven't received the online vetting form. Anyone else in the same situation. Thanks
  18. Just thought I would open a general topic area for those of us out there who have completed all elements of MET new constable assessment and are just waiting for info with regards vetting completion and intake/ internal CKP dates..... Sharing any updates and timelines might make the wait a little easier?
  19. danswans

    Stage 2 vetting query

    I am in the process of filling out my stage 2 vetting form and it asks me about any time abroad or travelling. It says I cannot be out of the country for longer than 12 months, which is fine. In February 2014 I completed my training to become a health care worker on a zero hour bank contract. I went away to work a summer season in Ibiza for 3.5 months after finishing my training from May-middle of September. Although I was working away, I was still employed by the NHS as it was a zero hour contract. This being said, on my initial application form I didn't put a gap in my employment because I was still technically employed, although working abroad and not working for the nhs job in the UK. (if this makes sense?) I put the end date as September 2014 when I did officially leave that job to take up a new job. Im now worried that if I give them my address from abroad they will question why I didn't put the gap in my application form? thanks, Dan.
  20. Well, seeing as I'm now a mini mod here I suppose I had best do something sensible! Here is a timeline for my recruitment process to give some idea of how long (or short!) things take. I can't guarantee it will be the same for all applicants, but it will hopefully give some idea 16th August posted application form 20th August notified I passed initial paper sift, assessment centre date sent 12th September PIR test 16th September notified I passed PIRT 17th September interview date sent 26th September physical date sent (pending successful interview) 30th September interview 1st October told I passed interview 10th October physical - was told I passed on the day 11th October conditional offer sent 20th November medical 13th December final offer. Collar number, training dates and pre-read sent Throughout the process, the training staff and HR have all been excellent. Always professional, but friendly and approachable with it. From what I can gather from the forum, it's been a quick process compared to other forces, for which I am glad to be honest!
  21. thefrugalflyer

    Vetting Question.

    Asking onbehalf of a friend. Was accepted in the last process but has however failed vetting thinks it's due to a family member who is known to police. Has appealed but that has been rejected and it's the final decision. Can my friend pursue this via a freedom of information request or a subject access request? And when they say the decision is final does that mean he will never be accepted? Many thanks in advance.
  22. Newbie

    Vetting

    Hi all, just a quick question with regards to vetting, how many sets of vetting forms do you actually have to fill in? The reason I ask is because I have filled in some before assessment centre, but many have filled in some to take to interview. My vetting questionnaire didn't go in depth into loans or credit cards etc.. Just asked if I had ccj's and things of that nature. Is there a chance I will have to fill out another one or does that sound the same as everyone else's? And also is there a chance they started vetting off when I passed the AC since they asked for them that early? Thanks in advance
  23. Juliet Papa

    Question about vetting & Credit History

    Hi All, I'm planning to apply to join as a special soon (Met). But I a bit worried about the financial side of vetting. I tried checking my credit history on Noddle, and it seems that it can't find anything. My colleague said that it could be because I'm not on the electoral roll. I'm not a British citizen, I'm here on a indefinite leave to remain, therefore, I can't join the electoral roll. I don't have a criminal record. Neither most of my family, except for a cousin (which I do not have any contact) that was arrested but not charged. I live with my mother and step-dad, so, I don't really have anything on my name. My phone is on a monthly rolling contract. I don't have a student loan, because decided not to go to university, and work instead, due to the area that I'm interested in working, and a work opportunity that I've had. (I'm a intern in the I.T department of a multinational law firm) Could I fail vetting for not having a credit history? What could I do, to try build my credit history before I apply? Many thanks!
  24. tru

    Question about Credit History

    Hello Everyone I would just like to ask, how does one find out there own credit rating and can a spouse's CCJs and high debts affect someone application for specials. Thanks Tru
  25. BravoWhiskey

    Family members

    I'm planning to apply as a special when Hampshire open up, but I have just had a thought about vetting. I live with my mum and my step dad, and it's been that way for about 13 years. I haven't seen my biological dad for about 11-12 years, I have had no contact with him my self, and the only thing we have had to do with him in that time was that he was paying child maintenance, but any contact was through csa. I assume he has never had any trouble with the police, however if he has would this affect my application, or as I have nothing to do with him will it be okay? Thanks ?

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