adamwales 21 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Hello All, Currently I drive a Vauxhall Vectra SRI CDTI Hatch, but looking to upgrade to an estate. I am after people's thoughts on the following line up, and also on pros / cons of Used / New - PCP / New - Leasing Vauxhall Insignia 2.0 CDTI SRI Skoda Octavia 2.0 VRS TDI Focus ST2 or ST3 TDCI BMW 330d / 325d M Sport Tourer I'd like something with a bit of grunt, that has space for the dog and the bikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamski + 1,057 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I'm eagerly looking forward to getting an estate. I'm quite tempted by the VRS but would go Petrol rather than Diesel. The problem with Skoda is that they generally hold their value very, very poorly and so you've got to keep it for its life to really get your moneys worth. Of the four, if you can afford it, I'd probably go BMW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy + 74 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I really like the look of estates, not sure why! Personally Im going to get a 3 series estate once I graduate university. Also going diesel just so its better for longer distance as I want to go drive abroad in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCSD 329 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Have you considered the Mazda 6 Tourer? You get a lot of car for your money and their 2.2 litre Diesels drive well, especially the 175ps version. I currently have a Focus ST3 hatchback which is coming up to one year old and I'm already looking at replacements for next year when the PCP ends. I'm tempted by a larger estate car for some long distance road trips and carting the kit around that some of my hobbies require. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamwales 21 Posted March 18, 2016 Author Share Posted March 18, 2016 A family member has the Mazda, was impressed. Never owned a Mazda though... Perhaps a test drive is in order! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCSD 329 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) Indeed, a colleague has the 3 and they're quite nice inside. Once it comes closer to renewal time I'll be taking the 6 on a test drive. I'd be going for Sports Nav trim with the 175ps 2.2 litre diesel. Although I get 350 odd miles out of a full tank of petrol in the current ST3 it's a killer on trips into Wales for me! I missed the days of 600 miles out of a tank in my old 1.9CDTi 150 Vectra! Edited March 18, 2016 by PCSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBob + 692 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) If your going to be bumping bikes onto the back door or inside then perhaps PCP is likely to cost you when it comes to the end of a contract for PCP and they look at the scratches etc. Not keen on new car as it drop in value so quickly Used seems to allow you to get more for your money. Skoda gives you a lot for your money and one of the better value in terms of running costs. Many people are either Ford or Vauxhall, in the same way its Audi of VW, BMW of Merc, Citroen or Peugeot, Mazda or Toyota and so on. Perhaps the lines are blurring a little these days but you can see where I'm coming from. Big BMW seems nice but if its an M model with any lowering of suspension does that really suit where your going to be going for the bikes? Having both a mondeo and Merc estate, they both do the same job with differing qualities. Petrol or diesel -see how many miles you do, be realistic how many miles you will do and calculate the real price difference. Probably not a lot compared to your initial investment and VEL accompanied by a tendency for petrol being cheaper to buy (and sell) they may be an interesting option. Edited March 18, 2016 by BlueBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus 585 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 The Ford Estates really are rather good. The mondeo especially but the focus is also very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrateShrike + 1,847 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 If you insist on diesel then your only real choice is a BMW, they are years ahead with common rail diesel technology. Unless you're buying it new with a warranty, I'd avoid diesels altogther. The fuel saving becomes a fallacy when paying out for repair bills that seem to afflict all modern diesels much more than petrol engines. Plus driving a car that sounds like a tractor is a big downer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamski + 1,057 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 I test drove a new model 6 and hated it. Utterly despised the drive, wasn't thrilling at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamwales 21 Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 Thanks for the comments so far... What would your top choice be lonewolf? Petrol engines included... Sent from my iPhone using Police Community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddzz!! + 149 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 +1 for the Ford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrateShrike + 1,847 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 4 hours ago, adamwales said: Thanks for the comments so far... What would your top choice be lonewolf? Petrol engines included... Sent from my iPhone using Police Community What's your budget?! And any personal prefences? As I'm a fairly competent DIY mechanic I usually buy cars that are 10+ years old but well-cared for with service history, then fix the inevitable problems as/when they arise. This might not be for you. I currently have a 2002 Ford Mondeo ST220 and I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milankovitch + 3,445 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Volvo V60 Polestar in Swedish Racing Green? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamwales 21 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Budget would be 15k tops, but ideally 10k (skiing isn't cheap!) I'll be doing about 1500 miles per month, so I'd be after a lower mileage one and then sell it cheap after 3-4 years Sent from my iPhone using Police Community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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