mike88 + 257 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I can't help but think if they both went hands on they could've cuffed him just after the second officer arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddzz!! + 149 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 So drugs make you invincible... Who knew?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyCop + 178 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 In my opinion not very well handled, although not excessive. As Mike88 has said they could have went hands on a bit quicker. I'm sure they were acting in manner that they are trained to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceptre + 2,704 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Watching Americans it seems they're always more inclined to rely on their weapons to gain compliance and then get close to people to cuff them rather than have the sorts of fights we do with our prisoners, and quite frankly who can blame them? They're there to be used after all, and it's far safer to cuff someone who is compliant where you can than wrench their arms around. Presumably the first officer didn't have a second cartridge, as it's obvious from the sound one barb has missed and he isn't willing to dive in for an angled drive stun - a second would have given him another shot. It's also obvious just how much better than batons or gas tasers are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddzz!! + 149 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 In my opinion not very well handled, although not excessive. As Mike88 has said they could have went hands on a bit quicker. I'm sure they were acting in manner that they are trained to. The officers are quite wary of this guy... When they do get hands-on they seem to be really struggling! Whatever this guy is on seems to have made him immensely strong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosco + 651 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I liked the bit at 1:17 where a mobile phone goes flying to the floor (probably from someone too busy filming the event to think of assisting). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyCop + 178 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I liked the bit at 1:17 where a mobile phone goes flying to the floor (probably from someone too busy filming the event to think of assisting). I liked the man in the white shirt at the start just sitting there if jotting was happening, I mean come on you would at least think there would be some reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseyLLB 8,426 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 It seems there was quite a bit if public support there for officers and only minimal dissent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millfield 12 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Why is the officer completely oblivious to the fact that one taser barb is flailing around on the floor, he keeps cycling the taser which is never going to have any effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceptre + 2,704 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Why is the officer completely oblivious to the fact that one taser barb is flailing around on the floor, he keeps cycling the taser which is never going to have any effect? Probably for a couple of reasons, firstly he probably doesn't know where the second barb is and it might be loosely caught in his clothing or close to his feet so by keeping the taser live he might complete the circuit by chance. Secondly if the man decides to charge him he can use the drive stun to defend himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soap + 1,575 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Watching Americans it seems they're always more inclined to rely on their weapons to gain compliance and then get close to people to cuff them rather than have the sorts of fights we do with our prisoners, and quite frankly who can blame them? They're there to be used after all, and it's far safer to cuff someone who is compliant where you can than wrench their arms around. Presumably the first officer didn't have a second cartridge, as it's obvious from the sound one barb has missed and he isn't willing to dive in for an angled drive stun - a second would have given him another shot. It's also obvious just how much better than batons or gas tasers are. Also, they get hands on, and they risk their own weapon falling into the fray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorDisaster + 579 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Given the press coming over from he US at the moment I half expected to see the 9mm come out. He didn't even flinch when he took the baton strikes. I did notice one thing, the cuffs are the chain link sort. Our rigid cuffs are more useful for gaining control and there were a couple of times when one stuck out arm might have been cuffed, though given what he was on it might not have worked. As stated above, the officers do remain calm and were presumably acting according to their SOP and training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseyLLB 8,426 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Rigid cuffs work on pain compliance - which would have had no effect on him. Rigid cuffs by their nature are inflexible and I'd wager it's easier to get chain links on. I'd rather use chain links myself 9 times out of 10 but my force no longer trains on them and so you can't carry them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades + 1,693 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Given the press coming over from he US at the moment I half expected to see the 9mm come out. He didn't even flinch when he took the baton strikes. I did notice one thing, the cuffs are the chain link sort. Our rigid cuffs are more useful for gaining control and there were a couple of times when one stuck out arm might have been cuffed, though given what he was on it might not have worked. As stated above, the officers do remain calm and were presumably acting according to their SOP and training. Bit off topic, but I remember reading on one of the old sites many years ago about a department in the States trialling speedcuffs and finding that they got a significant increase in use of force complaints and injuries...! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorDisaster + 579 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Bit off topic, but I remember reading on one of the old sites many years ago about a department in the States trialling speedcuffs and finding that they got a significant increase in use of force complaints and injuries...! Not half as many as they get from shooting people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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