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[ChristopherM 19]

Coming back from London today, I saw a few SJA volunteers still wearing their uniforms on the train. I guess this is allowed but I would be worried about being off duty in uniform. Police and paramedics cover up their uniform off-duty.

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1 hour ago, ChristopherM said:

Coming back from London today, I saw a few SJA volunteers still wearing their uniforms on the train. I guess this is allowed but I would be worried about being off duty in uniform. Police and paramedics cover up their uniform off-duty.

Why would you be worried?

[ChristopherM 19]

11 hours ago, Ether said:

Why would you be worried?

If I was a SJA volunteer I would cover my uniform up when travelling to/from a shirt. Just curious as to why they aren't like many police and ambulance services advise their employees too.

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9 hours ago, ChristopherM said:

If I was a SJA volunteer I would cover my uniform up when travelling to/from a shirt. Just curious as to why they aren't like many police and ambulance services advise their employees too.

What risk is there to a charity that provides first aid tho? 

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Just a minor point, but one that bugs me, it's St John Ambulance not St John's Ambulance. I've corrected the thread title cos it bugs me that much.

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1 hour ago, Chief Cheetah said:

Just a minor point, but one that bugs me, it's St John Ambulance not St John's Ambulance. I've corrected the thread title cos it bugs me that much.

You have far too much power! 🤣

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15 hours ago, ChristopherM said:

Just curious as to why they aren't like many police and ambulance services advise their employees too.

Probably best to contact SJA directly. 

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I've seen plenty of ambulane staff off duty not covering up. Lot of Prison staff And some police  (but that's another topic). 

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In case of assaults or "I need help" I am guessing. 

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On 17/05/2023 at 22:36, Wikicop20 said:

In case of assaults or "I need help" I am guessing. 

Are they some sort of target? When was the last targeted assault? 

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On 19/05/2023 at 16:43, Ether said:

Are they some sort of target? When was the last targeted assault? 

Probably. Anything in uniform is. Especially the black and white No. 1 dress as some people used to think they were plod! 

No idea.

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On 06/05/2023 at 21:46, ChristopherM said:

Coming back from London today, I saw a few SJA volunteers still wearing their uniforms on the train. I guess this is allowed but I would be worried about being off duty in uniform. Police and paramedics cover up their uniform off-duty.

Were you at the Coronation. What a great day it was. I nearly needed the medics standing there for ages!

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38 minutes ago, Wikicop20 said:

Probably. Anything in uniform is. Especially the black and white No. 1 dress as some people used to think they were plod! 

No idea.

I think someone is overthinking the issue, there is no uniform ban for the military in public, so I seriously doubt St John’s Ambulance are more at risk. 
 

The threat just isn’t there, whilst it’s good to be vigilant and personally I wouldn't choose not to wander around in uniform off duty, there is no data to support a person is at risk if hey do so. 

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1 minute ago, Ether said:

I think someone is overthinking the issue, there is no uniform ban for the military in public, so I seriously doubt St John’s Ambulance are more at risk. 
 

The threat just isn’t there, whilst it’s good to be vigilant and personally I wouldn't choose not to wander around in uniform off duty, there is no data to support a person is at risk if hey do so. 

Actually, I agree with you. But of course there is always some muppet...

Generally it's more just of an incovenice to the uniform person "where is X ...?" "can you help me with Y ...?"

When Drummer Rigby RIP was murdered, wasn't there a DIN or whatever it's called where no working dress to be worn on buses etc in London? That goes back a bit.

Lots of servicemen in my town wear uniform (normally MTP, sometimes red trousers!) but a Special Inspector the other day said he had to tell one of his SCs to take their blacks off, when walking around ASDA late in the evening ... 

Comes down to the indiviudal I suppose too. 

Regular PCs used to have to wear uniform 7 days a week, no drinking in it, cuff title on when on duty, etc etc. Those were the days! 

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15 hours ago, Wikicop20 said:

Actually, I agree with you. But of course there is always some muppet...

Generally it's more just of an incovenice to the uniform person "where is X ...?" "can you help me with Y ...?"

When Drummer Rigby RIP was murdered, wasn't there a DIN or whatever it's called where no working dress to be worn on buses etc in London? That goes back a bit.

Lots of servicemen in my town wear uniform (normally MTP, sometimes red trousers!) but a Special Inspector the other day said he had to tell one of his SCs to take their blacks off, when walking around ASDA late in the evening ... 

Comes down to the indiviudal I suppose too. 

Regular PCs used to have to wear uniform 7 days a week, no drinking in it, cuff title on when on duty, etc etc. Those were the days! 

Lots of things were done badly when Lee Rigby was attacked (who wasn’t in uniform at the time). The MOD has learnt the lesson of a knee jerk reaction. 
 

MOD has no policy prohibiting uniform in public, it does have an application process for applying to wear uniform at private events, but not and to work or during work.