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Stephen Maize

Can an MP carry a weapon for self defence in parliament?

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Stephen Maize

Can a MP have a weapon in his office and carry it around parliament for self defence? Is this protected? 

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Stephen,

How about, just for once, instead of dropping a question and running away and not engaging, why don't YOU drop a question, then give your thoughts first?

This constant silly questioning is starting to look like you trying to "sealion" the forum, which in my opinion will have the net result of your posts being ignored.

Just in you don't know what Sealioning is :

Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility.[1][2][3] It may take the form of "incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate."[4] The troll pretends ignorance and feigns politeness, so that if the target is provoked into making an angry response, the troll can then act as the aggrieved party.[

Can a MP have a weapon in his office and carry it around parliament for self defence? Is this protected? 
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Reasonable Man
Can a MP have a weapon in his office and carry it around parliament for self defence? Is this protected? 

Statutum de Defensione portandi Arma forbids the wearing of weapons, and swords in the chamber.

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Cathedral Bobby
Just now, Reasonable Man said:


Statutum de Defensione portandi Arma forbids the wearing of weapons, and swords in the chamber.

Now whose dictionary have you swallowed today @Reasonable Man

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Stephen Maize
1 hour ago, Reasonable Man said:


Statutum de Defensione portandi Arma forbids the wearing of weapons, and swords in the chamber.

Thank you, reasonable man

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Stephen Maize

The statute does say ”of the wearing of amour and all other force against our peace.”

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ParochialYokal
Can a MP have a weapon in his office and carry it around parliament for self defence? Is this protected? 


Common law states that a MP or designated servant of the Queen can can carry a sword in a public place that is no longer than 30 inches in length, so long as it is concealed about their person and not visible.

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Cathedral Bobby
Just now, ParochialYokal said:

Common law states that a MP or designated servant of the Queen can can carry a sword in a public place that is no longer than 30 inches in length, so long as it is concealed about their person and not visible.

Hence we don't dive on the Lord Lieutenant whenever they visit a Cathedral and lock them up for possession of a bladed weapon.

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Cathedral Bobby

Of course in the Commons Chamber each opposing bench has a red stripe in the carpet. There are two sword lengths between these two red stripes designed to stop MPs fencing after they had thrown insults across the chamber.

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ParochialYokal
Hence we don't dive on the Lord Lieutenant whenever they visit a Cathedral and lock them up for possession of a bladed weapon.

 

Exactly.

 

You would literally feel a bit of a pr**k if you did.

 

Tradition is that head gear gets removed as a sign of trust but swords and sharp implements must be concealed on or in the person. Out of sight, out of mind.

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Cathedral Bobby
Just now, ParochialYokal said:

Tradition is that head gear gets removed as a sign of trust but swords and sharp implements must be concealed on or in the person. Out of sight, out of mind.

In truth we normally take the sword but nothing to do with risk, simply it is more comfortable for the LL to sit down.

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The red lines on the floor of the House of Commons is a swords length apart.

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Cathedral Bobby
Just now, Mac7 said:

The red lines on the floor of the House of Commons is a swords length apart.

Sorry to correct you @Mac7 but from the HoP website.

Members may speak only from where they were called, which must be within the House. They may not speak from the floor of the House between the red lines (traditional supposed to be two sword-lengths apart). Also, the Speaker will not call a Member in the gallery if there is room downstairs. Members must stand whilst speaking but if they are unable to do so they are allowed to address the House seated.

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Mac7

One stands corrected.

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