Complaints against officers

[Constable Sy + 9]

Yo, yo.

I am an EMT with EEAST, in the process of applying as a Special. Wondering is anyone is in a similar position and if they encountered any problems or conflicts of interested being an SC and a HCP.

CHEERS!

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[Stripe 94]

Not in a similar position myself, but I do know of Specials who work in the NHS. Saying that, I don't believe any of them work for ambulance.

[Indiana Jones + 1,082]

Not an issue. There's loads of SCs who are medics.

[Merseyside_N 5]

I can only see the positives.

[Constable Sy + 9]

The reason I ask, I recently attended an RTC where one drivers I believed to have been under the influence. We requested police, but they we're some time away. Patient had potentially life changing injuries and was under the care of a specialist crew. I imagined if I was SC, would I have an obligation to detain the other driver? I know my priorities are patient care and the people who give me money, but will I be in trouble for failing to do my duty as an sworn constable?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Note: the ?DUI driver and patient were two different people. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Indiana Jones + 1,082]

No conflict. Only an idiot would instigate any sort of disciplinary against you in those circs.

[Gripper 6]

Just be careful of any conflict of interest in that kind of situation where your current job has influenced any contact, because they might start to get cheesed off if you're extracted from your proper job all the time.

[Constable Sy + 9]

I doubt I would be extracted. As I work for an already understaffed NHS service, I would have to get someone to cover my shift.

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[Gripper 6]

If you've nicked someone whilst at work then you've extracted yourself from working for a couple of hours, and your line manager is going to be less than happy at the situation which wouldn't have happened before you were a Special.

[Constable Sy + 9]

Understood. Just as long as I am not going to cause problems by have two sets of responsibilities.

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[XY07 + 9]

We have a special sergeant who is a Paramedic... nothing but pure benefits

[Deek 186]

Firstly, as an EMT you aren't classed as a Health Care Professional (HCP) - only staff who appear on a professional register are classed as HCPs - Doctors, Nurses and Paramedics, so that can't be used as an excuse for excluding you from joining as a Special.

Secondly, there is little conflict of interest in the real world - as a Police Officer you have the ability to use your discretion; if you are in the role of your day job then you don't put yourself on duty but act in the capacity as a professional witness and call in for assistance of Police through normal Ambulance Service procedures.

You may be required to undertake a yearly First Aid course even though you work full time for the Ambulance Service as an EMT, as under the Health and Safety Executive guidance on people exempt from holding a First Aid at Work qualification are the aforementioned HCPs.

I was a Special with SYP for three years and Specials and Regulars all appreciated my attendance on duties given my extra skill sets... what was a problem was the lack of understanding on what being a professional Paramedic meant, but that is another story.

[JPeretti 2]

Have you got approval from your area manager to seek secondary employment? That's the only issue I can see.

With regard to exercising the power of a constable while on duty for the NHS ambo service, I would only reveal warranted status if the suspect had committed a serious offence and was absconding from the scene before the police arrived, in which case you would be well within your rights to detain them. Other than that, I think it would be out of your remit to arrest for an offence before the police have actually arrived when the person isn't making any attempt to leave

[Constable Sy + 9]

JP,

Thats fair enough, I guess I'll have to learn the ropes and get experience first, then see what my gut tells me.

All approved with management and HR.

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[Pip 0]

It may also be prudent to learn your ambulance service's policy on intervening in situations like this inside out. If I remember correctly there have been cases (not sure if in this country) where a person has intervened in line with their secondary job, but has gone against the policy of their first and putting themselves in harms way.