Port of Tilbury-Police Constable

[Met at heart 0]

I retired two years ago on ill health grounds after being diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease in 2006. A former colleague has just had a A20 retirement and is now seeking employment outside of the job. Will the individual be allowed to work after ill health retirement ? If they can work outside of the police why can't they carry on in the job some may ask ? Please can someone advise. Thank you.

[999tommo 1,297]

That's a bit of a subjective post really. It al depends on what type of ill health this person had. Being unfit to do one role, may not make you unfit to do another role. Plus, you don't know whether he has informed his new employer that he was pensioned off, or even if he has to.

I can't think of anything that makes it illegal to take out employment, having been pensioned out of a Police job.

The above being said, I'm not sure if you are seeking general advice or legal advice. These forums are not the best place for legal advice, as we cannot vouch for the accuracy of anything you receive from our members as they are from all walks of life and not just Policing.

[Met at heart 0]

Hi Tommo,

Many thanks for the quick response from one Black Rat to another !! It was general advice I wanted nothing legal. My old colleague hasn't yet got a job after ill health retirement due to arthritias but went down the job centre to sign on and to get her stamp paid !

Someone said to me a while ago that the job look at your tax code intermitantly to see if you are working and what you are doing. I know a few years ago some Essex officers who retired with bad backs were recalled after being found to be working for a landscape gardening frim - bit extreme but I didn't want my old colleague to fall foul of this.

Thanks for the good advice

Chris

[999tommo 1,297]

If your colleague was pensioned off for a genuine illness, then he has nothing to be afraid of, but your tone suggests he was at it. In which case, hell mend him !!

[torchwood 34]

Hiya

I retired on ill health this year I also got an injury award when I got the award it was partially based on what the difference was between my average police pay and what I could earn outside the Met the calculations were based on the CMO stating I couldn't work full time, only 30 hrs , I even got sent five (office based) job adverts from the public sector which the CMO thought I could perform which he based calculations on, so it would appear no problem even if you have an injury award.

However you have to take into account tax, it works out that I can only earn about £16k before I go into 40% tax band, with travelling expenses would it be worth it and not that many part time jobs.

I have heard if you do get an ill heath pension and you have less than I believe 25yrs service ( may be wrong) they can recall you if your health changes or they find evidence of you swinging the lead.

[OutOfTheBlue 10]

Torchwood, that first sentence is a doozy. I tried to read it in one breath, but failed.

[torchwood 34]

If I knew what doozy meant , I could comment, glad it was informative.

[OutOfTheBlue 10]

If I knew what doozy meant , I could comment, glad it was informative.

It's an Americanism for a something that really stands out, a beauty if you like. The lack of punctuation meant it read as one long sentence. I defy you to read it with one breath.

[OutOfTheBlue 10]

Well I have severe osteo/rheumatoid arthritis in my joints including fingers, so just about able to hit my keys, I suggest if you have a problem in future you ignore my posts.

I am sure there is an Americanism for someone who doesn't offer anything constructive but just criticises others to feel superior.

I was actually trying to be helpful, for the benefit of our members.

Edited December 9, 2012 by M&MBM
To remove unintentionally annoying remark

[OutOfTheBlue 10]

Torchwood, for the avoidance of doubt, I was genuinely thinking of the membership here. I was not trying to be clever and I'm sorry you took my comment personally. It was not intended to offend.

[Actingmadfubare 2]

The criteria for working after ill health retirement is that your new occupation does not conflict with or compromise the reason you were retired. Thus if you're retired with a bad back and a knackered kneecap there's no way if you're genuine the system would tolerate you working as a brickie or a scaffolder. However land a job sitting in an orthopaedic chair in a call centre, no prob.

The no pension under 25 years service is incorrect. I can only guess that comment relates to the confusion that's gone on for years regarding the 25 yr point.

They can recall you at any time for a re examination and can reassess you as per their conclusions. I am aware of one officer medical'd out who appealed and actually had their pension reduced !