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  1. Jay1_366

    Warning letters

    Thanks for taking the time to read this. 4 years ago, I received a "warning letter" through the post from the local police for what was described as "kerb crawling", based on cctv recording that they obtained whereby my car registration had been picked up. I am based in London, England. I have fully acknowledged their warning and educated myself about the impact this has on people involved and local community. The warning letter did not state whether this would be recorded as a part of my criminal record. Nothing further came of this ordeal. I attempted to contact the police team who issued these letters, to enquire how this may effect me going forward, however I didn't quite understand answers provided and I am hopeful that they could be answered here... The police team in enquired with mentioned that this would be held as police intelligence and this would be the end of the matter as long as this vehicle does not come to their attention in the future (which I haven't). The data will be held for 5 years approximately. Currently, I can no longer get hold of this police team to derive further info from... I am now in the position of applying for a new job, whereby I am required to undertake a "standard DBS check", which from my research will search the PNC for any conviction history that I may have. I have applied for and received a subject access request from ACRO that states "no information is held about you on the pnc", which is what I expected as I haven't been in any other kind of trouble with the police, other than the warning letter that I received. My questions are; Will/should this warning letter show up as a "warning" record on the standard DBS check? Are warnings for adults usually recorded on local police systems or elsewhere, ie pnd, pnc? I have searched the Internet, and tried to query the police force who are redirecting me to the 101 number, but could not find out how this warning letter will affect me in terms of criminal record checks. If any one here could clarify a few of these points, that would be greatly appreciated as I am in a great amount of stress over this... Thanks once again for reading.
  2. Grantham girl, 4, gets cycling-on-path police warning Parents of a four-year-old girl were baffled when a police officer threatened to confiscate her bike because she was cycling on a pavement. Sophie Lindley, who uses stabilisers, was cycling on Trent Road, Grantham with dad Dale, when they were stopped. Police accepted while cycling on pavements was illegal, officers should use discretion with young children. One cycling charity pointed out being under 10, Sophie is too young to be able to break the law. Mr Lindley said they regularly let Sophie cycle to school. 'Safety is priority' "We stopped to look at some ducks when the officer pulled over and said she had to get off," he said. "He said 'The law is the law' and she was not allowed to ride on the path. "He said 'If I catch you put her on her bike further up the road I will turn around and confiscate the bike'. "I couldn't believe it. It's daft." Dale Lindley said Sophie loved her bike and often rode it to school Sophie's mum Emma Stephenson said she understood it was illegal to ride on the pavement. "But, it is ridiculous to think a four-year-old is not allowed," she said. "The most unbelievable thing is they were going to confiscate the bike." Lincolnshire Police apologised and said: "Safety is our priority and cycling on the pavement is illegal. "However, common sense obviously prevails and in the case of young children officers should use their discretion and offer the most appropriate advice for the circumstances." Roger Geffen, of national charity Cyclists' Touring Club, said the officer was "unfair" and "wrong". "The police officer has forgotten that children under the age of 10 are below the criminal age of responsibility so they can't break laws and can technically ride on the pavement," he said. "Everyone lets their children ride on the pavement. It is perfectly normal and not criminal." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-31805312
  3. Up to 30% of the cautions, warnings and fixed penalty fines issued by the police are being used inappropriately to deal with serious offences and repeat offenders, say MPs.   The Commons home affairs select committee says it is alarming that some police officers using cautions and warnings to deal with offences involving violence, sexual offending and domestic abuse in order to save time.   The MPs’ inquiry into the use of what is called “out-of-court disposals” shows that the different way police forces use them has created a postcode lottery with nearly 50% of offences dealt with by cautions, warnings and fines in London compared with 28% in West Yorkshire.   Keith Vaz, the chairman of the Commons home affairs committee, said: “The inappropriate use of out-of-court disposals to deal with serious offences is unacceptable. It is alarming that they are not being used in the correct way in up to 30% of cases. This has damaged public confidence in the police’s ability to tackle low-level offending.”   Vaz said forces had been allowed to interpret guidance on out-of-court disposals in their own way, resulting in huge variations across the UK in the way crimes are dealt with: “It cannot be right that while an offence committed in Cumbria would go to court, in Gloucestershire it may be dealt with by a caution.”   The MPs say that a new system of out-of-court disposals was needed to provide a clear, escalatory process to give the police the opportunity to start from a clean slate and allow them to tackle low-level offending appropriately.   Their report says that scrutiny panels should be set up in all police force areas so that decisions on when to use cautions, warnings and fixed penalty fines are appropriate and consistent across the country.   “We cannot allow the misuse of out-of-court disposals in serious cases to continue. The public deserve to feel reassured that their local police forces are not tackling serious crimes with a slap on the wrist,” said Vaz.   The Magistrates Association told the MPs that 20%-30% of cautions, warnings and fixed penalties notices were being used inappropriately for repeat offenders or in more serious cases.   But the police defended their use, saying that only 0.2% of robberies and fewer than 2% of sexual offences were dealt with in this way. They cited one example of a caution used for a sexual offence in a case in which a 16-year-old boy who was in a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old girl, was reported to the police, but the girl nor her parents was willing to support a prosecution to court.   Reforms to the use of cautions has already seen the number of cases dealt with by out-of-court disposals fall from 660,965 in 2008 to 318,500 in the 12 months to March 2014. The MPs said further reforms to the use of simple cautions would go some way to restoring public confidence.   View the full article
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