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[Growley + 2,436]

Which is a joke. You have someone who barely knows what they're doing leading somebody who doesn't know anything yet.

Then again, I've also heard of teams on some boroughs who have acting sergeants with two years' service.

[MajorDisaster + 579]

On 1 September 2016 at 00:35, Phist said:

I just seen the latest episode and I thought to myself can that mentor Nige be allowed to wear reaction lenses the ones that turn into sunglasses. I just thought it a bit odd

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I wear reactive lenses and when I became a Special I asked the training Sgt if they were permitted on duty.  She checked up the chain and the answer was yes they are.  Sunglasses are permitted while driving and on foot patrol if appropriate but mirror lenses are not permitted.

[Prae 764]

And soon we're going to have Superintendents with nothing but 15 months classroom training under their belts like we have Inspectors with 3 years whistlestop training already.

Length of service isn't everything. I'm only just out of my probation but I could very ably tutor a student officer or act up as a Sergeant performing both roles to a good standard because I've worked at that level before.

I'm not saying that the blind leading the deaf is an ideal situation, simply that years in doesn't equal ideal tutors.

[Phist 18]

I wear reactive lenses and when I became a Special I asked the training Sgt if they were permitted on duty.  She checked up the chain and the answer was yes they are.  Sunglasses are permitted while driving and on foot patrol if appropriate but mirror lenses are not permitted.

Ah great as I wear reactalights too and was wondering if I would be allowed. So now I'm happy [emoji2] can i ask what force you are with.

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[Milankovitch + 3,445]

I find the idea of getting in the back of the van with a custody really strange, I've never once seen it done but it seems to be fairly common in some other forces.

[andi + 1,262]

I find the idea of getting in the back of the van with a custody really strange, I've never once seen it done but it seems to be fairly common in some other forces.

Agreed. I don't fancy being locked in a cage with someone thanks. We have rear facing seats and perspex cages for observation.

[PCSD 329]

On 8/31/2016 at 22:27, danswans said:

I thought the same. I also noticed he was driving on blues. People would laugh in your face at Kent if you said "in 3 years time, I'm going to be a standard / advanced driver and a probationer tutor" unbelievable scenes.


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6 hours ago, Growley said:

Which is a joke. You have someone who barely knows what they're doing leading somebody who doesn't know anything yet.

Then again, I've also heard of teams on some boroughs who have acting sergeants with two years' service.

As Prae says, don't confuse length of service with competency. 3 years at a decent nick in the middle of a bad area probably gets you far more experience than 5/6/7/8 years in sleepy hollow. 

[Growley + 2,436]

And soon we're going to have Superintendents with nothing but 15 months classroom training under their belts like we have Inspectors with 3 years whistlestop training already.

Length of service isn't everything. I'm only just out of my probation but I could very ably tutor a student officer or act up as a Sergeant performing both roles to a good standard because I've worked at that level before.

I'm not saying that the blind leading the deaf is an ideal situation, simply that years in doesn't equal ideal tutors.

If I remember correctly you were somewhat of an exceptional special before becoming a regular though; in that you held yourself to be genuinely as competent as your regular colleagues.

Even then, the number of people genuinely suitable to act up at 2 years service, and the number of people who think they're suitable, are two very different quantities.

[Growley + 2,436]

As Prae says, don't confuse length of service with competency. 3 years at a decent nick in the middle of a bad area probably gets you far more experience than 5/6/7/8 years in sleepy hollow. 

Yes, at those extremes it probably does get you more experience in 3 years than in 5/6 etc.. But I've never said otherwise. That being said, when you're talking about new joiners, time in and competency are quite often more closely related than at any other point in an officer's service.

[MajorDisaster + 579]

2 hours ago, Phist said:

Ah great as I wear reactalights too and was wondering if I would be allowed. So now I'm happy can i ask what force you are with.

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[ScotLass + 638]

4 hours ago, Milankovitch said:

I find the idea of getting in the back of the van with a custody really strange, I've never once seen it done but it seems to be fairly common in some other forces.

I've seen it happen a few times up here and indeed I did it once myself to stop a woman deliberately cracking her head off it.  It's certainly not the norm.

[Eddzz!! + 149]

I thought the same. I also noticed he was driving on blues. People would laugh in your face at Kent if you said "in 3 years time, I'm going to be a standard / advanced driver and a probationer tutor" unbelievable scenes.


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In my force you're trained to drive on blue lights before you leave for your 10 week tutor phase...

[danswans + 133]

In my force you're trained to drive on blue lights before you leave for your 10 week tutor phase...

That's lucky for your force then. Within Kent police you only get your basic course. Normally takes officers 2-7 years to get their standard course.


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[Eddzz!! + 149]

That's lucky for your force then. Within Kent police you only get your basic course. Normally takes officers 2-7 years to get their standard course.


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That's a bit rubbish! What's the reason behind that?

[grumeister + 60]

That's a bit rubbish! What's the reason behind that?

Cost. they only run a certain number of courses a year and not every team gets the chance to put someone in a course


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