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XA84

Hi all, 

I was having a conversation earlier this evening whilst at dinner with friends about new policing students and advice that they were given either by their tutors, colleagues or just in passing. We all took it in turns and mentioned something and when it came round to me I replied with the trusted 'what you put in is what you will get out'. This got me to thinking though whether any of you guys had been given advice that has helped you in the past and whether you'd be happy to share it here on the forum as it just may help another user if they are going through their training whatever the role may be. 

Other things that my friends mentioned:

  • Don't be afraid to ask questions if you don't know something
  • Have confidence and don't be afraid to get stuck in
  • Don't allow your emotions to get in the way of your role
  • Be willing to listen and learn
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Billy Blue Tac

Here's my updated version of the tried and tested ABC approach to investigatons:

Accept nothing (on face value)

Believe nothing (without independent corroboration)

Challenge everything (with reasonable lines of enquiry)

 

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Zulu 22

I agree with the above but would add. Keep yours eyes open, yours ears open and your mouth shut, unless it is asking relevant questions. Hear all, see all and say little.

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MajorDisaster

1.You can only deal with what's ín front of you.

2.  'Do the right thing' - if what you are doing feels right, it probably is.

3. 'No plan survives contact with the enemy' which links back to 1.

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Mac7

Always remember your personal safety. Always maintain that reactionary gap when dealing with people and always sit/stand in houses with an escape route in mind. Never get complacent.

Consider not travelling to work in half blues. You may wear a plain top but you still stick out as a cop.

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SD

Most of your shift will have poor legal knowledge so double check what they tell you with a reliable source.

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Beaker
Most of your shift will have poor legal knowledge so double check what they tell you with a reliable source.
This made me chuckle after working with a reg who said something along the lines of "he needs arresting, but I don't know what for".

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Chief Cheetah

If it ain't written down then it never happened i.e. ensure you keep good contemporaneous notes

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Beaker
If it ain't written down then it never happened i.e. ensure you keep good contemporaneous notes
This is awesome advice. Being asked what happened about something 8 months later, and your PNB saving your bum.

I'd add that sometimes you need to take a moment to put things together. Sporting off and reacting too soon when there is no need can cause no end of hassle. Sometimes you just need to let someone blow off a little steam before you get anywhere. Better to spend 10 minutes talking than 2 minutes rolling around on the ground.
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Billy Blue Tac
11 minutes ago, Chief Cheetah said:

If it ain't written down then it never happened i.e. ensure you keep good contemporaneous notes

Proper, sound advice that everyone should follow, not just trainee officers.

Don't fall in to the bad habit of thinking that the paperwork, especially if it's legally required by CPIA for Disclosure, is a chore best left until later or is someone else's problem. Admittedly, most of the failings / horror stories that hit the fan are serious and complex investigations but if officers start out with the right attitude and mentality to doing every aspect of the job properly then the mould is set for the rest of their career.

Sermon ends.

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SD

Learn how to use the NDM properly. Most cops don’t even remember what it is made up of never mind how to use it.

Then use it to write up incidents

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SD
43 minutes ago, Beaker said:
1 hour ago, SD said:
Most of your shift will have poor legal knowledge so double check what they tell you with a reliable source.

This made me chuckle after working with a reg who said something along the lines of "he needs arresting, but I don't know what for".

Sadly that doesn’t surprise me.

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Billy Blue Tac
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34 minutes ago, Beaker said:

Better to spend 10 minutes talking than 2 minutes rolling around on the ground.

Too true.

I'd just add: don't expect every shift to be non-stop fighting and biting (hopefully). Of course there will be times when controlled aggression is needed but officers also need proper interpersonal skills to be able to talk with members of the general public as equals.

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XA84

Thank you to all that have given input already on this topic there is some absolutely fantastic advice.

Don't forget that ethics, integrity, and attitude are your most valuable assets; never compromise them in your personal and professional lives. I could write a book on how many police careers were forever ruined – all based on lapses in these core values. Ethics are doing the right thing, even when no one is watching, your integrity cannot be taken from you – you can only give it away, and your attitude is what others see of you and therefore judge you on.

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Eddzz!!

Don't think "why should I arrest", think "why shouldn't I?".

That'll get you thinking 😉

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