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  1. Mazza

    Brexit Discussion

    We had a big topic running for the general election , so I thought I'd create one for our next big vote as a nation. So the question is... Brexit or Bremain? Sent from my iPhone using Police Community
  2. MPs and campaigners must avoid inciting bad behaviour, warns new NPCC chief. Police deal with the London riots of 2011 Date - 4th April 2019 By - Nick Hudson - Police Oracle 7 Comments Policing has assembled the biggest ever peacetime reserve of riot-trained officers with chiefs warning campaigners and politicians to mind their language to avoid inflaming the "incredibly febrile" atmosphere around Brexit. The 10,000 ready at 24 hours’ notice to quell disorder in England Wales and Northern Ireland – with 1,000 available in the first hour – represents a greater contingent of police manpower than deployed to reinforce local forces during the 2011 riots across England, the worst since the end of the Second World War. Some fear regular services would be decimated if a national mobilisation was needed. Chief Constable Charlie Hall, the National Police Chiefs' Council lead for Brexit operations said: “We would easily run at that pace for the first seven days.” But after that officers may have to work 12-hour shifts and non-core “peripheral police activity" police activity could be cut, such as training, community work and crime prevention work. His comments came as new NPCC chairman Martin Hewitt expressed concerns over a lot of "angry talk" on social media and called on public figures to be wary of "consequences that weren't intended" when speaking on the debate over leaving the EU. Addressing a briefing at the National Police Co-ordination Centre, he added: "This is highly emotive as an issue as we all know and clearly everyone will have their opinions. "But I think there is a responsibility on those individuals that have a platform and have a voice, to communicate in a way that is temperate and is not in any way going to inflame people's views." The political situation over Brexit has already seen heated protests on both sides, and a number of MPs have requested beefed-up security in the past six months. Forces have also seen an increase in abuse aimed at politicians, admitted Commander Adrian Usher, who leads parliamentary policing. He added: “As we move towards key dates in the Brexit calendar, we have seen spikes in those numbers.” Mr Hewitt went on: "We are in an incredibly febrile atmosphere as a result of the whole EU exit scenario. "We know and we can see that people are expressing themselves, we're seeing a degree of protest, a degree of demonstration, there is a lot of angry talk that you can pick up if you look across social media. "In any scenario like that where there are a range of outcomes it's incumbent on anybody in a position of responsibility, and who has a voice, to just think carefully about the way that they express their views and their opinions, so that what they're not doing is inciting behaviour or causing anybody to behave in a way that we wouldn't want them to behave." He added: "We are in a febrile atmosphere and if you are in a position where you know you are going to be listened to, you need to think very carefully about the language that you are using so that it doesn't end up with consequences that weren't intended." CC Hall said the police have pushed back on other authorities to make sure that officers are only used "if absolutely necessary". This includes issues such as queuing at ports and maintaining the supply chains of food, fuel and medicine. He said: "We've been very clear that policing support should only really be called on if absolutely necessary in dealing with the wider civil contingencies." The Hertfordshire chief added: "Our push has been back to those sectors, those parts of government, the private sector, to say 'it's your responsibility to look at your individual supply chains and you should not be looking to police to come in to supplement and keep your supply chain running'." Local resilience forums, which include representatives from councils and the police, have carried out training exercises to deal with shortages, and police training has included dealing with disorder including looting. Under existing national contingency plans, every police force is expected to make a certain number of officers available to be deployed wherever they are required. There are also specialist teams such as dog handlers, armed police and search-trained officers which can be called upon. Currently 1,000 have received extra training so that they can be deployed to Northern Ireland if needed. The police there use armoured Land Rovers and water cannon, unlike their mainland counterparts. So far 15 forces have placed restrictions on annual leave, and two have officially asked for mutual aid - Kent, which covers the port of Dover, and Hampshire, which covers Portsmouth. CC Hall said special constables, volunteer police officers, could also be used if required. The military could be used and police and army chiefs have held talks about how they could be used if needed. The number of crimes linked to Brexit, although small, has more than doubled in a fortnight, with 26 last week and 11 the week before. About half were malicious communications, while the remainder included verbal abuse, harassment and protest activity. One protester admitted climbing on to a station roof and causing widespread disruption to Eurostar services, while British Transport Police is looking for another who planted devices aimed at bringing trains to a halt in Cambridgeshire and Nottinghamshire. In general terms, levels of hate crime in England and Wales have not yet fallen back to the levels recorded before the 2016 Brexit referendum. In 2017-18, 94,098 of these offences were recorded, a rise of 17 per cent on the previous year, thought also to be fuelled by the terrorist attacks in London and Manchester. View On Police Oracle
  3. Road to new legislation is far from smooth for campaigners The chaos that has engulfed Parliament amid Brexit may hinder the progress of eagerly awaited draft laws which would enhance legal protection for officers who pursue helmetless moped riders. The Police Federation for England and Wales (PFEW) cautiously welcomed the news last May that the Home Office was drafting legislation to ensure skilled police drivers are “protected”. PFEW was awaiting the results of the government’s consultation when it received the news there will no longer be time in the parliamentary diary because Brexit-related work must take priority. Instead, the Home Office hopes the same ends will be achieved through Sir Henry Bellingham’s Emergency Response Drivers private members bill. It was originally introduced as a ten-minute bill in December 2017 but was shelved after government objections in March. The bill was due to have its second reading on November 23 but Sir Christopher Chope, who is notorious for blocking private member’s bill on principle, raised an objection. Sir Christopher invoked the ire of activists earlier this year when he blocked the progress of a bill to make upskirting a separate offence and Finn’s Law, which would increase the penalties for those who injure police animals. This, however, did not stop him submitting several of his own private members bills last month. The Emergency Response Drivers Bill second reading has been rescheduled to March. PFEW Pursuits Lead Tim Rogers, who has been campaigning to change the law for more than seven years, told Police Oracle the government has some concerns the bill will not match the issues covered in the consultation and that it will include ambulance and fire engine drivers, who are not trained to the same standard as police officers. He said: “If you compare officers to the careful and competent drivers standard the techniques they use are illegal. “The deal officers get is 'as long nothing goes wrong that’s fine and we won’t do anything about it but when something does happen you’re on your own'. “Roads policing officers are highly trained professionals who go to work and carry out these manoeuvres every day but that isn’t recognised in law. “It’s just stupid. “Even the IOPC came out and said officers shouldn’t be compared to the careful and competent drivers standard.” Mr Rogers said Policing Minister Nick Hurd had given himself and PFEW chairman John Apter personal assurances last week he remained committed to the issue and will soon issue a ministerial statement confirming this is the case. It is still hoped the bill will gain Royal Assent by 2019/2020, he said. A Home Office spokesman said: “We recognise the difficult job that police drivers do every day to keep road users and the wider public safe. “That’s why we have worked closely with the Police Federation, other government departments and groups representing road users and those advocating road safety to review the law, guidance, procedures and processes surrounding police pursuits. “Ministers are expecting soon to be in a position to announce the next steps following the consultation. This will be subject to final clearance across government.” View on Police Oracle
  4. Scenario risks increasing pressure on law enforcement. Date - 28th November 2018 By - Hayden Smith and Ian Weinfass The UK will lose access to EU databases used by police to track terrorists and criminals in the event of a no-deal Brexit, according to an official analysis. The paper provides the most detailed government assessment to date of the potential impact on security and law enforcement ties if no agreement is struck. Agencies would no longer be plugged in to systems for exchanging a raft of data including criminal records, alerts on wanted suspects, DNA, fingerprints and airline passenger information. Extradition requests would take longer, while cooperation on counter-terrorism, cyber security and illegal migration would be affected. The assessment, published by the Department for Exiting the European Union, said: "A no deal scenario would not provide the same levels of capabilities envisaged in the deal scenario - many of which would require formal agreements with the EU - and would risk increasing pressure on UK security, law enforcement and judicial authorities. "In the event of no deal, the UK would no longer have any access to EU data platforms, or have guaranteed channels for obtaining law enforcement information." If an agreement is not reached, there will be no implementation period after the UK formally departs the bloc in March. The paper said: "This means that any operational cooperation that relies on EU tools and instruments at the point of exit, would stop. "This would create immediate legal and operational uncertainty with the risk of operational disruption and potential security implications." Under the terms of the draft agreement, the two sides have committed to establishing a "broad" and "comprehensive" security partnership. But in a no deal scenario, Britain would face losing access to: A scheme for sharing air passenger data such as names, travel dates and contact details The Prum system, which facilitates fast exchange of DNA and fingerprint data The Second Generation Schengen Information System (SIS II), which circulates millions of law enforcement alerts in real time The European Criminal Record Information System, which enables automated exchange of criminal record data The assessment also flagged up the potential impact on cooperation in a number of "thematic areas". On efforts to counter terror and violent extremism, it said: "In a no deal scenario, it would be harder for the UK and the EU to work strategically to tackle these evolving threats." Effective action on illegal migration would be more difficult with no formal arrangements in place, the paper added. It made clear the government would seek to "mitigate the effects of a no deal scenario on the UK's security". In a "deal scenario", operational cooperation will continue largely as it does now during the implementation period, the analysis said. Labour MP Yvette Cooper, who chairs the Commons Home Affairs Committee, said: "This assessment makes clear the substantial security risks from no deal, but it does absolutely nothing to tell us what the security risks are in the Prime Minister's deal. This isn't being honest with everyone." Liberal Democrat Ed Davey said: “Theresa May keeps telling us she’ll work out a wonderful new security agreement before the transition period ends, but she has completely failed to make any progress whatsoever over the last two years. “The Liberal Democrats demand better for our police and our communities. That’s why we are fighting to give the people the final say on the deal, including the option to exit from Brexit.” View On Police Oracle
  5. Home Office says it is planning for all possible scenarios. Matthew Scott, Lord Willy Bach and Martyn Underhill Date - 8th August 2018 By - Ian Weinfass - Police Oracle 11 Comments Police and crime commissioners are warning of the risk to public safety from a no deal Brexit. Conservative, Labour and independent representatives said they have discussed the issue with the National Crime Agency and National Police Chiefs’ Council and fear what could happen without agreement between the UK and EU. They have written to Home Secretary Sajid Javid to confirm the Home Office has developed a contingency plan for a no deal Brexit. The letter was discussed at a national PCC meeting in mid-July and sent last week. It is signed by Tory Matthew Scott, Labour’s Lord Willy Bach, and independent Martin Underhill. It says: “We understand that considerable additional resource would be required for policing to operate using non-EU tools and that such tools would be sub-optimal - potentially putting operational efficiency and public safety at risk." It continues: "There are 32 Law Enforcement and National Security Measures [Lens] that are used on a daily basis in an operational policing context. "Unless the government is able to negotiate the retention of these measures following the UK's withdrawal from the EU, police and law enforcement agencies face a significant loss of operational capacity. "As police and crime commissioners, we are increasingly concerned that such a loss of capacity could pose significant risks to our local communities." They add that Brexit negotiations come at a time when the threat from foreign national offenders targeting the UK from abroad is increasing. They also say that with the implementation period unlikely to be known until October this year, the five-month window until the end of March 2019 is "likely to be very challenging". They have asked for a meeting with the Home Secretary to discuss "preparations, contingencies and the financial implications of post-Brexit policing". In 2016 Sir Hugh Orde revealed on Police Oracle that chiefs had analysed the impact of leaving the EU in 2013 and identified 13 elements “without which we would struggle to protect citizens in this country”. A Home Office spokesman said: "There is widespread recognition that the UK and EU can most effectively combat security threats when we work together. It is important we maintain operational capabilities after Brexit - and we will continue to make this case to the European Commission. "We are confident that an ambitious agreement on future security cooperation can be reached — but it is the duty of any responsible government to prepare for every eventuality, including no deal. "With that in mind, we are working closely with operational partners on contingency planning so we can ensure the safety and security of our citizens in all scenarios.” View On Police Oracle
  6. No-deal on security would force officers to file individual requests for data on suspects. Cressida Dick The country's top police officer admits she has concerns the force’s investigations will be handicapped post-Brexit if the United Kingdom loses access to the Europol database. This week MPS Commissioner Cressida Dick said her force’s counter-terror capability is in “very very good shape” but is seeing an upswing in right-wing inspired extremist plots being disrupted at the London Assembly’s Police and Crime panel meeting. She said police are not involved in Brexit negotiations but she is trying to plan for future arrangements which could supersede full membership to Europol and to “understand more about how they could work”. “We are big users of a lot of the instruments. We are big contributors to Europol. It is likely that if we are unable to access the same things in the same way that we do now it will be clunkier, clumsier and more expensive in any replacement system. “So it’s important for us in keeping London safe to be able to have access but we fully understand it has become an important part of negotiating between the various parties which is nothing to do with us. “We have enjoyed sitting on the board of Europol and we have 40 something subject matter UK experts at Europol at the moment. We use the arrest warrant a very very huge amount. And all these things are reciprocal. “We believe other European countries have very much benefitted from our involvement, not least of course in terms of countering terrorism. “We will work with whatever we get in the future of course.” Sophie Linden, London’s Deputy Mayor for Policing and Crime added the “thought of not being able to use the information sharing or be in Europol is incredibly worrying”. Ms Linden said she has personally lobbied Secretary of State for Brexit David Davis on the issue together with Mayor of London Sadiq Khan. “It does not feel they are getting very far at the moment,” she said. “It is incredibly concerning and when the commissioner talks about it being a little bit clunkier what that will mean is at the moment officers can interrogate databases when they come across individuals. It will mean they have to ring up and get them one by one. “That isn’t clunkier when you think about the thousands of times it is being used. Security is really at threat around Brexit unless they really get to the point of making a deal and keeping us in all these arrangements.” Earlier this week former Europol director Sir Rob Wainwright told the Home Affairs Committee no deal on Europol would be “unthinkable.” Despite EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier’s public assertions it would be “impossible” for the UK to stay in the European Arrest Warrant, Sir Rob was so relaxed about the future of the UK’s access to Europol MPs asked him why he wasn’t “more worried”. Sir Rob said politicians may be “closer than they appear” on the issue. He said: “Maybe I’m less worried than you because when I left Europol I was more assured of how the system was working toward some kind of deal. “I think we should be worried if reach a point of no deal on security. That will certainly have an adverse ability to fight crime and terrorism. “It’s still likely that there is an expectation there will be a cooperation.” View On Police Oracle

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