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Failed police staff vetting

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K192

Hi,

I recently failed my Vetting for a policing staff position. I am extremely upset about this as I passed my interview, medical health check and all my assessments but failed my vetting due to a third party. I am not sure about what I can do about this? I have worked really hard for this job, and I do not have a criminal record myself. I am not sure who the person or persons may be, they might be related or people who I socialise with, who could have a criminal record. If I new this information, I would be able to minimise contact or stop contact with them. However, vetting staff are not allowed to tell me this.

Could someone please direct me or atleast give me an idea of what I could do? I have appealed, but anything else?

What rights do I have an individual?

Kind regards,

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Fedster

Hi, which force is this? 

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MindTheGap

You can appeal to the Chief Officer, however if you don't know what you're appealing you're fighting a loosing battle.

Do you have any idea who the 'third party' is? If it's a relative you probably can't change things to get a job. That being said I have some family I don't associate with who are always in trouble and had no issues with vetting.

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K192

It might be because of my father's side who we have never really spoken to since childhood. I don't even know there names and I'm not sure if they do have any convictions, but they are the only people I could think of. I'm still not sure about what will be happening.

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It might be because of my father's side who we have never really spoken to since childhood. I don't even know there names and I'm not sure if they do have any convictions, but they are the only people I could think of. I'm still not sure about what will be happening.


Did you include your father and everyone possible on your list of family? As far as I've seen, failing vetting can also be because you haven't included something they think you should have, rather than something specific relating to someone.


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K192
3 hours ago, alicing said:

 


Did you include your father and everyone possible on your list of family? As far as I've seen, failing vetting can also be because you haven't included something they think you should have, rather than something specific relating to someone.


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I did put my fathers name, but did not write anything about his side as I do not have any contact with them. I have appealed, but heard nothing back as of yet.

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alicing
I did put my fathers name, but did not write anything about his side as I do not have any contact with them. I have appealed, but heard nothing back as of yet.


Hang tight. Can't imagine how frustrating it is for you. Personally, I think it's mad how you can fail for the choices someone related to you has made but I understand why it happens, just seems to be a punishment for someone who has done nothing wrong.


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K192
5 hours ago, K192 said:

It might be because of my father's side who we have never really spoken to since childhood. I don't even know there names and I'm not sure if they do have any convictions, but they are the only people I could think of. I'm still not sure about what will be happening.

 

5 minutes ago, alicing said:

 


Hang tight. Can't imagine how frustrating it is for you. Personally, I think it's mad how you can fail for the choices someone related to you has made but I understand why it happens, just seems to be a punishment for someone who has done nothing wrong.


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To be honest I am very disappointed with the system and it does feel like a punishment for something I have not done. I do hope they make the right decision.

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To be honest I am very disappointed with the system and it does feel like a punishment for something I have not done. I do hope they make the right decision.


Keep us updated. Hopefully it will be with good news.


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Fadsz

Hello. Just wondering how your appeal went? I'm going through similar situation :(

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ParochialYokal

In all fairness, I doubt it that it is about 'someone on your father's side' or someone that you 'socialise with' (whom you presumedly didn't list- they don't have a crystal ball).

You probably failed because someone much closer to you (i.e. Your immediate family or partner) failed the vetting.

All families have skeletons in the closet. As well as appealing the decision, I would suggest that you speak with both of your parents (if they are still about) individually.

I know someone who discovered that their father had a 'black cloud' from his teenage years that happened before he even met the mother. Mum never knew...

Someone close to you probably isn't being honest. And, in all honesty, do you really want to find out what this all relates to?


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On 12/16/2016 at 07:19, ParochialYokal said:

In all fairness, I doubt it that it is about 'someone on your father's side' or someone that you 'socialise with' (whom you presumedly didn't list- they don't have a crystal ball).

You probably failed because someone much closer to you (i.e. Your immediate family or partner) failed the vetting.

All families have skeletons in the closet. As well as appealing the decision, I would suggest that you speak with both of your parents (if they are still about) individually.

I know someone who discovered that their father had a 'black cloud' from his teenage years that happened before he even met the mother. Mum never knew...

Someone close to you probably isn't being honest. And, in all honesty, do you really want to find out what this all relates to?


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You make a joke about folk and crystal balls but seem to have written that as if you were looking through one. You don't know what failed the vetting either.

I know two people now who have failed vetting. One failed because of her half brother who'm she hadn't had contact with for 30+ years, didn't even know his address or details. She appealed and won.

The second was someone she had contact with every couple of years, again she didn't know his back ground but it came to light. She also appealed and won. 

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MajorDisaster

While I make no comment on the OP's circumstances,   someone who moves in those circles in  our force told me recently that over half of all applications fail vetting and well over three-quarters of those failures are down to social media in one form or another.  Also PSD told us that social media is the single biggest cause of disciplinary issues, especially the lower level infractions.

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4 hours ago, MajorDisaster said:

While I make no comment on the OP's circumstances,   someone who moves in those circles in  our force told me recently that over half of all applications fail vetting and well over three-quarters of those failures are down to social media in one form or another.  Also PSD told us that social media is the single biggest cause of disciplinary issues, especially the lower level infractions.

This is why you should close all your social media accounts when you apply.

 

 

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