Sentinel 54 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) Can't see if this had been shared before but this Sgt seems to have let his emotions of the incident get in the way of dealing with this chap properly at one point saying he was lucky he didn't knock him out for taking pictures. Edited May 5, 2015 by Sentinel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJesusofKayaking 0 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Old video. Policeman concerned was sent for re-training apparently. That's the message I got from the uploader anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash 32 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Old video. Policeman concerned was sent for re-training apparently. That's the message I got from the uploader anyway. Threatening to knock somebody out and then allegedly get sent for more training. I would have thought that one would know that threatening to knock a member of society out is not acceptable. Utter madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotLass + 638 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Threatening to knock somebody out and then allegedly get sent for more training. I would have thought that one would know that threatening to knock a member of society out is not acceptable. Utter madness. We're all human and therefore not perfect. We all make mistakes and we all say things we don't mean. You have no idea what happened in the lead up to that incident or in the subsequent aftermath. All you have is a 12 minute video to make a snap judgement on someone who you don't know from Adam. I'm not suggesting that his actions are right (and I haven't seen the video), but you can't possibly draw a conclusion on someone's competencies as an officer from one incident. I'm sure he's more than aware that threatening people isn't acceptable, as I'm sure you're aware that making a judgement on a person's competency based on a 12 minute video is also not acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash 32 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 We're all human and therefore not perfect. Speak for yourself. We all make mistakes and we all say things we don't mean. Yes, one does, I am not sure what you are implying. Are you attempting to mitigate the officer actions? You have no idea what happened in the lead up to that incident or in the subsequent aftermath. Lets say, for arguments sake, your "snap judgement" is correct that I do not have knowledge of the before and after, what is the point your are making, again are you attempting to mitigate the Officer's actions? All you have is a 12 minute video to make a snap judgement on someone who you don't know from Adam. Yes, that is correct, all one can do is comment on what one has been presented. What is your point? I'm not suggesting that his actions are right (and I haven't seen the video), but you can't possibly draw a conclusion on someone's competencies as an officer from one incident. I suggest you read my "comment" again, then read what you have posted. I fail to see how my post provoked this sentence you have posted. I'm sure he's more than aware that threatening people isn't acceptable, as I'm sure you're aware that making a judgement on a person's competency based on a 12 minute video is also not acceptable. You are "sure he's more than aware that threatening people isn't acceptable" yet he threatened another human being with physical violence. A Police Officer who presents himself like the Officer in the video can expect to have his "competency" challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR8623 243 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Dash, go Troll elsewhere. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosco + 651 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 You are "sure he's more than aware that threatening people isn't acceptable" yet he threatened another human being with physical violence. A Police Officer who presents himself like the Officer in the video can expect to have his "competency" challenged. I haven't watched the video, but I presume that the force concerned judged that indeed the officer made a mistake in how it was handled and needed to be corrected. We're all human and therefore not perfect. We all make mistakes and we all say things we don't mean. You have no idea what happened in the lead up to that incident or in the subsequent aftermath. All you have is a 12 minute video to make a snap judgement on someone who you don't know from Adam. I'm not suggesting that his actions are right (and I haven't seen the video), but you can't possibly draw a conclusion on someone's competencies as an officer from one incident. I'm sure he's more than aware that threatening people isn't acceptable, as I'm sure you're aware that making a judgement on a person's competency based on a 12 minute video is also not acceptable. Indeed : quite possibly that the best result was chosen to correct the officer's behaviour but not to throw away all the experience and time invested by binning them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash 32 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I haven't watched the video, but I presume that the force concerned judged that indeed the officer made a mistake in how it was handled and needed to be corrected. Courts for some and employers for others, interesting. Indeed : quite possibly that the best result was chosen to correct the officer's behaviour but not to throw away all the experience and time invested by binning them. The punishment of threatening physical violence against another human being is weighed against the cost of training and investment, interesting process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmook + 532 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 sent for re-training sent for more training. Read properly before trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash 32 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) Read properly before trolling. Thank you for pointing that glaring error, how foolish of me not to spot this complete faux pas. I am going to skulk into some dark damp crevice and contemplate my worth to society. Thank you for pointing my stupid and idiotic attempt at communicating with other people. Hang on....wait just a cotton picking minute, is not re-training more training? Yes it is, damn you sir. You are a complete waste of my time, I bid you good day. I still think the Officer was lucky to keep his job if what is alleged is true. Edited May 6, 2015 by Dash I cannot read, allegedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewie_griffin + 484 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Not nearly rude and abusive enough in my opinion. I was really hoping for a policeman who completely lost the plot and was on the verge of belting someone. If this is what constitutes 'rude and abusive' in the British police service, well frankly you're letting yourselves down. My mum's ruder than that. Pathetic. PS with summer just around the corner, it's about time any police officer accused of anything by anyone is immediately suspended with full pay pending the resolution of the matter (minimum 4 weeks in May-June, rising to 8 weeks in July-August) all those in favour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmook + 532 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Thank you for pointing that glaring error, how foolish of me not to spot this complete faux pas. I am going to skulk into some dark damp crevice and contemplate my worth to society. Thank you for pointing my stupid and idiotic attempt at communicating with other people. Hang on....wait just a cotton picking minute, is not re-training more training? Yes it is, damn you sir. You are a complete waste of my time, I bid you good day. I still think the Officer was lucky to keep his job if what is alleged is true. You know, I had you on ignore for a while. I read some of your comments and you seemed to be getting better, engaging more in discussions with a more open attitude So I decided to take you off ignore. I then read your posts here and revert to my original opinion. You really are an insufferable human being. Back on ignore you go, so I doubt I will read your inevitable pithy comeback to this post. I'm sure you won't lose any sleep over a faceless person on the Internet disagreeing with you, but when it's many people on a forum do you not even once stop and think that trolling is so passè? Ta ta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash 32 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 You know, I had you on ignore for a while. I read some of your comments and you seemed to be getting better, engaging more in discussions with a more open attitude So I decided to take you off ignore. I then read your posts here and revert to my original opinion. You really are an insufferable human being. Back on ignore you go, so I doubt I will read your inevitable pithy comeback to this post. I'm sure you won't lose any sleep over a faceless person on the Internet disagreeing with you, but when it's many people on a forum do you not even once stop and think that trolling is so passè? Ta ta No, you will not be able to read my "pithy comeback" or the answer to question you posed if you carry out your alleged action. A some what less then mature response from you I suggest. One who expresses views differently to the, for want of a better description "mainstream" or "general consensus" does not amount in my opinion to trolling or bating but open debate. I however much I like or dislike have to bow to the rules of the forum. Until then I will continue in the style I am accustomed to. I would suggest when one challenges another view it would be a good "tack" to not take it personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Police Constable 1 + 2,071 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 One who expresses views differently to the, for want of a better description "mainstream" or "general consensus" does not amount in my opinion to trolling or bating but open debate. One would agree with you that to disagree with the consensus of a topic does allow it to enter into a debate which is what makes it interesting, however as has been noticed in previous threads, where people disagree with you and challenge you on your points, you twist their responses around and ignore what has been put to you to continue on your one "agenda" which is a shame as I believe having seen some decent posts of yours that you have the ability to actually construct a good argument, it is just a shame the majority of the time you let yourself down. Anyway, back to the topic? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo26 + 199 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Why do so many officers think that people can't record them in public, it gets so many officers into hot water, and truly baffles me. Maybe they could cut the diversity training by a week and deliver some training around this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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