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Afternoon Everyone,

So I have a little discussion for you all to participate in. 

With the ever rising diagnosis of PTSD amongst our armed forces and other emergency services, should this automatically disqualify them from job joining the Police? 

The reason behind my interest in this is I am due to fail my medical any day nowN. Now it is, what it is and can't be challenged. 

However as someone who was diagnosed with PTSD from NOV 2019 to March 2020 (Yes a whole 4 months 🤣🤣) this has been used as a basis to fail me (My background is RAF Supply so essentially the most disturbing thing I ever seen or did was the giving away of a decent pair of boots 🤣🤣)

It seems PTSD has now become the normal and easy label for struggling vets or emergency services.

Thankfully in my case it was quickly discovered I didn't have PTSD. I was just high as a kite all the time from working on the Drug Wing as a Prison Officer 🤣

Aby how I hope you are all keeping well. Now let's discuss this warts and all. 

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Zulu 22

PTSD is the in thing for explaining any change in a persons behaviour.  In your case it was discovered that you di not have PTSD so it would be completely wrong to hold that against you. If they did that they would just be using it to hide behind some other perceived reason.

If you could survive as a Prison Officer I would think that you could survive anywhere. Had you been cross contaminated by working on a Prison Drug wing then the Prison Service should be aware of that fact. 

I can only say that, I for one, would never want to serve as a Prison Officer. It is one thing putting violent criminals away into Prison but a completely different scenario of looking after them in a tinder box of hatred and potential violence.

Hope everything works out ok.

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Jeebs

There are enough serving cops with PTSD, and my honest believe is that most of us cut about with some level of it, mostly undiagnosed. A squaddie may be exposed to a lot of trauma over a 6 month tour, but that’s not 40-60hrs a week for years and years on end. It would be naïve to think that it’s not an issue within the police. 

I have no idea if it is a bar to joining, and the reality is that it shouldn’t be. 

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4 hours ago, Zulu 22 said:

PTSD is the in thing for explaining any change in a persons behaviour.  In your case it was discovered that you di not have PTSD so it would be completely wrong to hold that against you. If they did that they would just be using it to hide behind some other perceived reason.

If you could survive as a Prison Officer I would think that you could survive anywhere. Had you been cross contaminated by working on a Prison Drug wing then the Prison Service should be aware of that fact. 

I can only say that, I for one, would never want to serve as a Prison Officer. It is one thing putting violent criminals away into Prison but a completely different scenario of looking after them in a tinder box of hatred and potential violence.

Hope everything works out ok.

The Prison Service are more than aware however, they care more about the Offender's than the Officer's wellbeing. The management is more dangerous than the Offender's 🤣. Offender's don't tend to stab you in the back. 

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Thank you both for your input. It's reassuring to hear this sort of support, especially about such a fubar subject. 

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21 hours ago, TooTall said:

The reason behind my interest in this is I am due to fail my medical any day now. Now it is, what it is and can't be challenged. 

Do you mind me asking whether this is you speculating that you're going to fail or have you actually been told?

As with anything medical the force can't just dismiss you if you put something they don't on your medical vetting form. The force doctor has to review this and make an informed medical decision which will include your GP or specialist(s) if you have them. 

Once they've weighed up all the details that is when they can tell you, that you either can or can't be an officer. 

Over the last two years I have had a life threatening neurological issue where I have nearly died a number of times because of it. I was told by my GP and specialists that I would never be able to join the emergency services because of this and that I shouldn't try, when I spoke with the force doctor during an unrelated matter who was fully appraised of my situation they mentioned that they could see no reason whatsoever as to why I couldn't join only that I might not be eligible for the force pension, meaning I might have to join a separate private one. 

People shouldn't sell themselves short because they think they might have a medical issue that the police might not like, until you've spoken with the force doctor and an official decision is made then anything can happen. 

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Father Jack

Anyone who's witnessed anything traumatic could have PTSD to some degree. Understandably the condition is more prevalent amongst current and former members of the Armed Forces, Emergency Services, and Prison Service, due to the nature of the job roles.

I would advise anyone concerned they have PTSD to talk to someone, and seek a formal diagnosis. There are many charities and organisations, that can help put people in contact with the help that they need, such as Combat Stress, RBL, PRU, and the Police Federation amongst others. Proper diagnosis is crucial and usually leads to better coping strategies for what may be a lifelong condition. Incorrect or unqualified diagnosis can however be as equally unhelpful and should be challenged.

 

 

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