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The sun. Met Police officer, 22, becomes first cop to be convicted of belonging to banned Neo-Nazi group National Action


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A MET Police officer has become the first cop to be convicted of belonging to a neo-Nazi organisation.     https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14521485/police-officer-neo-nazi-national-action/         also story is in the met police news with link. https://news.met.police.uk/news/serving-met-officer-convicted-of-terror-offence-424628

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School records aren't checked as part of vetting. Neither are dental records or library borrowings.

They don't really prove or disprove anything useful though. You might have a well disciplined neo-Nazi who scored well in modern history but was conscious enough so that he didn't try and beat up the

Not so much as a decade, just a skim through for key words and links to undesirables.    Social media and finances brings the biggest vetting issues. 

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How ever he  somehow managing to pass the vetting process , not good for the met police if  after two years they only found this out wonder how many more got past under the radar.🙄

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38 minutes ago, Member of public 1 said:

How ever he  somehow managing to pass the vetting process , not good for the met police if  after two years they only found this out wonder how many more got past under the radar.🙄

If he hasn't been formally investigated, arrested or Intel of his involvement published how were his employers supposed to know? 

Reading between the lines it looks as if his name appeared on a list of far right membership that appeared on the Web which kick started the investigation. 

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2 hours ago, Member of public 1 said:

How ever he  somehow managing to pass the vetting process , not good for the met police if  after two years they only found this out wonder how many more got past under the radar.🙄

What checks do you think happens during vetting?

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What checks do you think happens during vetting?

Dont know my self , but they missed out on his school records  and he lied on his form  that should have been picked up sooner .and said Yesterday, Scotland Yard was struggling to explain how the neo-Nazi recruit managed to slip under the radar.

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20 minutes ago, Member of public 1 said:

Dont know my self , but they missed out on his school records  and he lied on his form  that should have been picked up sooner .and said Yesterday, Scotland Yard was struggling to explain how the neo-Nazi recruit managed to slip under the radar.

School records aren't checked as part of vetting. Neither are dental records or library borrowings.

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11 minutes ago, Indiana Jones said:

School records aren't checked as part of vetting. Neither are dental records or library borrowings.

Fair comment and thanks for letting me know , and i can only go by what the press say and what was said on TV .👍

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9 hours ago, Indiana Jones said:

School records aren't checked as part of vetting. Neither are dental records or library borrowings.

Would school records not be rather useful? Attendance records, discipline records, involvement etc.

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10 hours ago, Member of public 1 said:

Dont know my self , but they missed out on his school records  and he lied on his form  that should have been picked up sooner .and said Yesterday, Scotland Yard was struggling to explain how the neo-Nazi recruit managed to slip under the radar.

When I was vetted as a contractor with police scotland,  the focus was mostly on family members and financial background and took a few months to pass.  

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16 hours ago, Member of public 1 said:

i can only go by what the press say and what was said on TV .👍

As members of the public we simply don't have as familiar an understanding with police procedure as officers do. So when we take part in a discussion we do sometimes get things wrong, but we can only do our best and go on the information we have. Most officers understand that but there's always one or two who seem more interested in trying to catch you out for not knowing things rather than having a good faith debate.

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10 hours ago, Wilts20 said:

Would school records not be rather useful? Attendance records, discipline records, involvement etc.

Would you want to be denied a career on the back of something you did at school in your early teens which wasn't serious enough for the police to already know about it at the time?

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11 hours ago, Wilts20 said:

Would school records not be rather useful? Attendance records, discipline records, involvement etc.

They don't really prove or disprove anything useful though. You might have a well disciplined neo-Nazi who scored well in modern history but was conscious enough so that he didn't try and beat up the kid who goes to synagogue on a Saturday.

And can you imagine the furore when police chose not to accept a 28 year old candidate with a poor discipline record at age 13.

Vetting is set nationally for the police and civil services. They differ slightly between them, but what's expected is freely published for all to see.

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On 03/04/2021 at 08:48, Sceptre said:

Would you want to be denied a career on the back of something you did at school in your early teens which wasn't serious enough for the police to already know about it at the time?

Best not look at my internet search history, jeez 🙄 

 

 

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On 03/04/2021 at 09:34, Indiana Jones said:

They don't really prove or disprove anything useful though. You might have a well disciplined neo-Nazi who scored well in modern history but was conscious enough so that he didn't try and beat up the kid who goes to synagogue on a Saturday.

And can you imagine the furore when police chose not to accept a 28 year old candidate with a poor discipline record at age 13.

Vetting is set nationally for the police and civil services. They differ slightly between them, but what's expected is freely published for all to see.

Smoke and mirrors is all vetting is, with most police officers having a lower clearance than bottom pay level Civil Servants. 
 

If it’s not on a data base, it won’t be found. 

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On 02/04/2021 at 11:23, SD said:

What checks do you think happens during vetting?

This day in age, social media 😆

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