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PM to use final leadership days to give public sector £2bn pay rise.

Leaving present: Announcement of 2.5 per cent rise for officers expected on Monday

Leaving present: Announcement of 2.5 per cent rise for officers expected on Monday

Date - 19th July 2019
By - Nick Hudson - Police Oracle
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Theresa May’s leaving present to under-resourced policing could be the biggest pay rise in six years, it has emerged.

One of the Prime Minister’s final acts in office is expected to be the announcement next week of a £2 billion inflation-busting bonanza for public sector workers.

The Treasury will reportedly unveil a 2.5 per cent rise for police officers before the former Home Secretary’s tenure in 10 Downing Street comes to an end on Tuesday.

Two million workers will receive increases although the Treasury is expected to say that, barring some extra funding for schools, the money will have to come from existing budgets.

Amid concerns the private sector is pushing ahead on pay – in addition to rises for police officers – soldiers will see a 2.9 per cent increase and teachers and other school staff 2.75 per cent, while dentists and consultants will get 2.5 per cent and senior civil servants two per cent.

The rises – expected in a government statement on Monday – do not apply to other public sector staff, such as more junior civil servants and nurses, whose pay is dealt with separately.

Public sector pay rises were capped at one per cent after the Conservative-led coalition came to power in 2010, but the cap was scrapped last year.

Jonathan Cribb, a senior research economist at the Institute for Fiscal Studies, said: "These public sector pay rises are higher than last year's and considerably higher than the one per cent for many years before that.

"It is the highest nominal pay increase since the coalition. But these increases are still slower than pay rises that are happening on average in the private sector.

"With the partial exception of schools, there seems to be no new money to fund these pay rises, meaning savings will have to be made elsewhere."

The announcement will come during Mrs May's last days in office, with either Boris Johnson or Jeremy Hunt taking over the top job.

During the leadership contest, frontrunner Mr Johnson refused to commit to a pay rise for public sector workers despite an apparent policy pledge by one of his key backers.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock had said the public sector would be "shown some love" if Mr Johnson won, but the former foreign secretary made no spending pledge.

"Of course he's right, we are going to make sure that we properly fund our public services," Mr Johnson said.

"It's very important when you're in charge of a great public service, whether it's the police or transport, you've got to make sure – or local government – you've got to make sure that you understand their cares and their needs."

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So... the government are giving everyone a pay rise but not the money for that pay rise. 

 

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Police pay has still been reduced by around 18% in real terms since the Tories came into power.

Police officers could have been given 10% for all this is worth, but without any funding increase to cover it it just means is that the thin blue line is stretched even further.  It's a sly insult at best.

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16 minutes ago, IrateShrike said:

Police pay has still been reduced by around 18% in real terms since the Tories came into power.

Appreciate your statement, but even if it was Labour, Libs or any other, not sure they would have defied that number - unless it was to recover it through other means.  But we digress 

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4 hours ago, BlueBob said:

Appreciate your statement, but even if it was Labour, Libs or any other, not sure they would have defied that number - unless it was to recover it through other means.  But we digress 

Touchy much about the tories? The simple fact is they’ve cut the police so far that is barely recognisable to what it was 15 years ago. 

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9 hours ago, Mdon said:

Touchy much about the tories? The simple fact is they’ve cut the police so far that is barely recognisable to what it was 15 years ago. 

Because Labour spent too much of everyone else’s money.

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The only way that this would mean anything would be if Central Government increased the Police Budgets by 2.5%.  As ten current offer stands it means that someone else has to find the money which, could possibly mean cutting the numbers of officers to allow the pay increase to be paid.

The other hidden finance item will be the Pensions which, at present, stand to increase by the CPI of 1.9%, although this may yet rise before September. Much of this is paid by the present day Pension contributions of the serving officers but, the shortfall has to be found from within the Police Budget. In GMP that figure was around the £12 million mark. 

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On 19/07/2019 at 22:17, BlueBob said:

Appreciate your statement, but even if it was Labour, Libs or any other, not sure they would have defied that number - unless it was to recover it through other means.  But we digress 

So what you are saying is, that the Tories believed they could get away with screwing the police over because no other party would have presented a credible alternative.  That's hardly a good reason.

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7 hours ago, IrateShrike said:

So what you are saying is, that the Tories believed they could get away with screwing the police over because no other party would have presented a credible alternative.  That's hardly a good reason.

That is neither what was said or meant.  Yes we are blaming the tori’s for the austerity and reductions.  Even if labour had been in government, they would have done the same.  The only way around it, IMHO, would be to find more money, and the only realistic way to do that would be to raise taxes - an act of political suicide (a typical description).   

So yes, look back and blame the tories, but also appreciate the alternatives would have had little difference.

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4 hours ago, BlueBob said:

That is neither what was said or meant.  Yes we are blaming the tori’s for the austerity and reductions.  Even if labour had been in government, they would have done the same.  The only way around it, IMHO, would be to find more money, and the only realistic way to do that would be to raise taxes - an act of political suicide (a typical description).   

So yes, look back and blame the tories, but also appreciate the alternatives would have had little difference.

Expenditure on policing is tiny compared to other areas of public spending.  If it was  truly about saving money then hitting the police so disproportionately hard makes little sense when much bigger savings could be found elsewhere.  It’s nothing more than spiteful anti-police ideology.

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On 21/07/2019 at 07:51, BlueBob said:

That is neither what was said or meant.  Yes we are blaming the tori’s for the austerity and reductions.  Even if labour had been in government, they would have done the same.  The only way around it, IMHO, would be to find more money, and the only realistic way to do that would be to raise taxes - an act of political suicide (a typical description).   

So yes, look back and blame the tories, but also appreciate the alternatives would have had little difference.

Except the NHS hasn’t seen similar cuts, intact they get more now the ever before. So your logic is somewhat flawed. 

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49 minutes ago, SD said:

Except the NHS hasn’t seen similar cuts, intact they get more now the ever before. So your logic is somewhat flawed. 

And yet we were referring to ( on the Prev post) to policing and not the NHS.    Accepting you are quite right, some parts of NHS has had increases- even they/it still want more, and again, the only way to achieve that is more funds -via taxation.  So not sure it was a flawed logic!

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Military have got 2.9% with the most junior service personnel being given 6% to bring their wage up to 20k.

 

HOWEVER they are increasing the cost of accommodation in the military to almost the same percentage.  So no real increase at all. 

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1 hour ago, Funkywingnut said:

Military have got 2.9% with the most junior service personnel being given 6% to bring their wage up to 20k.

 

HOWEVER they are increasing the cost of accommodation in the military to almost the same percentage.  So no real increase at all. 

Presuming your argument was “there’s not enough money to go around”them it is flawed because there is money (£1bn for DUP. If not then it’s flawed because you’ve no idea what labour would’ve done. 

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Military pay increase met by the Government through the MOD.

Police Pay increases have to come from the individual Force Finance budget. I have not mheard of each Force receiving an increase to cover this cost.

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