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Hundreds of police not fit enough for the job after failing basic fitness test

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Funkywingnut

“All our trainers have qualifications which enable them to offer advice and support regarding nutrition, physical training and the anatomy.”

Great bit of support, some advice, what are the police doing to encourage fitness? Providing gym facilities, running fitness classes (not just HQs), providing time during a shift for fitness ? 

 

 

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pcmode
6 hours ago, Funkywingnut said:

reat bit of support, some advice, what are the police doing to encourage fitness? Providing gym facilities, running fitness classes (not just HQs), providing time during a shift for fitness ? 

 

 

There shouldn't be any need to encourage fitness, as surely it's personal pride? If you can't get to 5.4 (If it's still that for regulars) on the bleep test which is just over 3 minutes of fairly gentle running, barring illness or injury there should be no excuse why you can't get that. Not everyone is an athlete, but you really don't need to be anywhere near one, and if people can't stay fit, and there's no medical reason, that's on them and not the job.

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Jimbo26
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6 hours ago, Funkywingnut said:

“All our trainers have qualifications which enable them to offer advice and support regarding nutrition, physical training and the anatomy.”

Great bit of support, some advice, what are the police doing to encourage fitness? Providing gym facilities, running fitness classes (not just HQs), providing time during a shift for fitness ? 

 

 

To be fair you don't need to be a gym bunny to pass the annual fitness test as it's an absolute joke of a test. If you can't pass it you shouldn't be in the job.

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Funkywingnut
1 hour ago, Jimbo26 said:

To be fair you don't need to be a gym bunny to pass the annual fitness test as it's an absolute joke of a test. If you can't pass it you shouldn't be in the job.

Maybe not, but surely the force should encourage fitness

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Funkywingnut
2 hours ago, pcmode said:

There shouldn't be any need to encourage fitness, as surely it's personal pride? If you can't get to 5.4 (If it's still that for regulars) on the bleep test which is just over 3 minutes of fairly gentle running, barring illness or injury there should be no excuse why you can't get that. Not everyone is an athlete, but you really don't need to be anywhere near one, and if people can't stay fit, and there's no medical reason, that's on them and not the job.

Don’t disagree it’s hardly a taxing test, but I believe the police should both actively encourage fitness and provide the facilities for officers to train. 

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skydiver

The Mirror story doesn't mention the time frame for the figures so it could be that the 852 failures could be spread over the 4 to 5 years that we've had the compulsory test. If that is the case then its a case of poor journalism leading to a sensational headline.  The story doesn't go into any detail about why people have been failing i.e. looking at the numbers on restricted duties or recovering after work related injuries.

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MSCMIKE

As others have said no time frame and the use of pictures which are years old to support the story is rather boring. It wouldn't surprise me if its not a copy and paste from an old story.

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Zulu 22
13 hours ago, skydiver said:

The Mirror story doesn't mention the time frame for the figures so it could be that the 852 failures could be spread over the 4 to 5 years that we've had the compulsory test. If that is the case then its a case of poor journalism leading to a sensational headline.  The story doesn't go into any detail about why people have been failing i.e. looking at the numbers on restricted duties or recovering after work related injuries.

Given the ease for passing the 5.4, irrespective of the time frame, the fact of 852 failures is nothing short of a disgrace for every one of those 852. Perhaps a better test would be a run for the doughnuts.

Fitness is no different to updating yourself with legislation. If you have any pride for the job then both should be a priority for officers.

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skydiver

Zulu I agree that 5.4 is straight forward for most people but there are often good reasons for some of the failures which often are related to knee problems and the pressure the turns in the fitness test put on them.  There are however some colleagues who don't care about their fitness and pile on the pounds which then causes them problems come test time.  I don't have a lot of sympathy for that group.

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Indiana Jones

Whilst I appreciate that some of this is down to a lack of fitness, some of it will be due to injury.

And with people working stupidly long hours, having their rest days messed about, canteens closed so you're left with few options as to what you can eat - it's no wonder that people aren't as healthy as they ought to be.

852 people out of the entire population of those required to undertake the JRFT is a relatively small percentage. Let's not throw all our colleagues under the bus based on a few figures cobbled together in a story in The Sun.

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Jimbo26

I appreciate that, but like may other officers I can think of many in my force who are just too overweight and unhealthy to be in the job. Many were overweight and unhealthy when they joined so it begs the question how they got accepted. I'm sure it's not down to the fact that most of those are the ones that ticked a diversity box.

We even had a situation were an officer who ticked a diversity box couldn't get through the physical test to join a specialist unit, low and behold this officer did the test in private and passed!

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Zulu 22

I have no problem with officers who ae carrying injuries, many incurred whilst on duty. They are, or were exempt from the test until such time as they had resumed fitness. I also have no problem with officers injured to such a severe manner that they will never be fit for a return to full time duty. Those officers should be well catered for with back office jobs. It is a fact that too many are just overweight, and unfit, and have no intention of putting themselves out with any form of exertion. We, sorry you, are better off without them.

 

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