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Future Uniform - Designed from scratch

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If you could design our uniform from scratch what would you want us to wear.

 

Head to toe why would you want to wear?

 

Also, what equipment that you don’t already have would you like issued?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Also, what equipment that you don’t already have would you like issued?
 
 



Can SierraEcho be banned from commenting on this?

That is said in jest FYI.
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Mazza

Something more practical than suit trousers.

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Phil

I quite like City of London’s new uniform, looks smart and practical. They seem to have dropped the need to wear a tie with long sleeve shirts as well

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Remmy

From scratch....well first let's keep bosses out of it, they have forgotten what it's like or never experience how uncomfortable it is wearing body armour on a hot sunny day. Or equally uncomfortable to be wearing damp, sodden trousers because your cheap cotton trousers that do not protect you from the elements, but you choose not to wear the cheap, scruffy, non breathable waterproof trousers.

Perhaps let's look at what the military do, they have realised you can be smart, uniformed, comfortable and as a result more productive, all at the same time.  It's called layering and costs money so will never happen. 

But maybe bosses sat in their air conditioned ivory tower's have failed to notice that the UK weather changes not only by the season, but sometimes by the hour!

 

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Straker

Look towards what is available in other countries. The newest version of the Netherlands police uniform would be a good start with the yellow stripes replaced with Sillitoe tartan or blue white Sillitoe used in NZ or Aus as hi viz stripes. A decent uniform could be afforded easily if it was centrally contracted and used by every force with different badges as appropriate. The current "national uniform" contract is a joke with far too many forces picking and choosing different bits of it.

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It also integrates the body armour with the undershirt so it looks fairly seamless (no obvious showing gaps in armour coverage) and has good hard wearing trousers (with knee reinforcements, double fabric in high wear areas and the crotch to make rips less likely) and has a soft shell like winter and summer version. This would be the expensive option.

Load carriage could be better integrated into the vest though or if we insist on duty belts make them hang off the body armour like the New Zealand police ones do to take weight off the lower back. I also like that they issue plate carriers to response officers along with holsters attachable to a plate on the duty belt. Taser holsters use the same quick detach system as well although this is a slightly older picture, they have moved to general issue taser (X2 with inbuilt cameras) to response officers with it being taught during training. A version of the NZ police uniform would be the cheap option. 

12 Hours with New Zealand Police | Antony Kitchener

Keep custodians for foot patrol and hats for normal use as appropriate. 

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Growley

Bin custodians, go for a darker NYPD-style uniform and actually enforce uniform standards; because it doesn't matter what we wear if supervisors are being useless and not enforcing the rules.

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It's called layering and costs money so will never happen. 
But maybe bosses sat in their air conditioned ivory tower's have failed to notice that the UK weather changes not only by the season, but sometimes by the hour!
 


Layering is exactly what we are looking at doing.
As for money, the commissioner has already decided she’s okay with buying a baton that costs 4x more than the ones we currently have and has said she is committed to spending money for the right equipment.

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Bin custodians, go for a darker NYPD-style uniform and actually enforce uniform standards; because it doesn't matter what we wear if supervisors are being useless and not enforcing the rules.


That’s half the battle, uniform standards have gone.

I’ve just seen this photo on Twitter with 5 officers from the same team and not one of them looks like the next.

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bensonby

Back to tunics but with modern slash/stab resistant fabrics.

 

A total ban on Hi Viz except for public order and traffic work.

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SimonT

Hmicfrs need to get a backbone and tell the police what they will be wearing. Every force choosing their own kit and constantly changing it makes us look awful. 

Looking across the briefing room I can see a dozen different bits of kit, all legitimately issued over the last couple of years. 

I need some new shirts, but the ones in our current purchase cycle are terrible, so I need to wait for the next company to come in. 

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Beaker

I like the current combat trousers they're issuing us up here they can stay.

I'd prefer a cotton shirt, black to match the rest. Clip on ties would address part of the 'scruffy' argument. The wicking things are awful. Cotton would be way comfier too.

Boots are fine, but we don't really need everyone in steelies, they are a nightmare to run in, and ruin the fun of a good footchase.

A better fitted stabby would be appreciated too. Many of us find they're too short even when you adjust them. Tac Ops and taser have MOLLE ones that look better, fit better and are more practical.

Load vests are a bit 'meh'. I don't like them other do. I prefer my kit on my belt, but a MOLLE vest would keep everyone happy.

A decent waterproof jacket that isn't high vis to zip over a decent fleece. The soft shell fleeces we have are too hot in summer and too cold in winter.

Lightweight hi-vis that they sent me by accident is ideal. Though issuing a high vis tabard would be great so you can just stick it in a bag or pocket and pull it out when needed.

Hats. I know some people hate the bump caps, but they are practical. They don't fall off when you run, and they keep the sun out of your eyes while giving some basic protection. Though I don't see why women can't have a bump cap bowler if they wanted one. I know a few who are clinging to their bowlers for foot patrol.

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SimonT

I think we should get covert stab vests. That's half the reason other forces around the world can look better. They have ballistic underneath rather than on top. They also have guns, but that's another discussion. 

I would imagine you can get a decent vest that goes under, but it probably costs money. 

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I think we should get covert stab vests. That's half the reason other forces around the world can look better. They have ballistic underneath rather than on top. They also have guns, but that's another discussion. 
I would imagine you can get a decent vest that goes under, but it probably costs money. 
The few American cops I've spoken to moan that apparently covert vests are pretty uncomfortable, otherwise I'd agree with you.

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I think we should get covert stab vests. That's half the reason other forces around the world can look better. They have ballistic underneath rather than on top. They also have guns, but that's another discussion. 
I would imagine you can get a decent vest that goes under, but it probably costs money. 



I like the Policia style uniform. It appears smart, practical, modern and of good quality. I’d also like to see force insignia bought back onto the uniform and the Union Jack.

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