Fedster + 1,307 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) his extraordinary video captures the moment a man fights off two police officers, pinning them both to the ground by their necks before fleeing. The incident took place in Archway, North, London in the earlier hours of Sunday. The man was being spoken to by a male and female officer when he appears to suddenly try to escape. Both officers then begin to grapple with them man but he quickly overpowers both of them. Scuffle: The man grapples with the officers on the floor He repeatedly shouts "get off me" as he hauls both officers to the floor and proceeds to pin them down by their necks. The man then flees the scene. Eyewitness Robert Walakira, who filmed the incident, described the incident as "very scary". "The police officers were trying to force the man to the ground," he said. Incident: Once he overpowers them he runs off "But he was too strong for both of them. I was worried, especially for the female officer, but I was too scared to intevene. "One of the officers managed to spray CS gas but it didn't make any difference. "It was awful - I've never seen anything like it." Scotland Yard has been approached for comment. Edited July 22, 2015 by Fedster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prolixia 704 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I was too scared to intevene But not to rush over to get a close-up of the male officer being throttled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyCop + 178 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 But not to rush over to get a close-up of the male officer being throttled. Hopefully we won't take the same view next time he needs help. Video makes my blood boil, I personally think the female officer should have been delivering baton strikes as soon the bloke was on top of her colleague. If there ever was an argument for having a taser this would be it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike88 + 257 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) The video on the actual Mirror site is a lot clearer http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-superhuman-strength-filmed-pinning-6018825 I can see how the male officer got pinned as they fell and the male landed on top of him. It looked to me like the female officer would've been best breaking away so she can use CS/baton at a distance rather than being tangled up in the struggle. However always easy to judge from behind a screen. Actions of camera man are passing motorists are as disgusting and unsurprising as ever. Edited July 8, 2015 by mike88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseyLLB 8,426 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Always easy to judge but lethal force was justified there rather than just hugging him and ending up being strangled on the floor. i hope the offender is found at 5am unawares in his house and taken to prison. however I'm realistic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Team Sir Penguin 648 Posted July 8, 2015 Admin Team Share Posted July 8, 2015 Unbelievable. Fair play if you're too scared to intervene. But don't stand there with your mobile phone out filming the incident while two police officers could have easily been killed. The male is lucky he wasn't struck with a baton at a very high speed in a place that could have caused some serious if not fatal damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radman + 2,165 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) Baton strike, Captor, Kick to the knackers, whatever it takes to get him off my colleague. Edited July 8, 2015 by Radman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ 37 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) Looking back at the footage, it is easy to see that the female officer should have withdrawn and then gone in again using force but I will be the first to hold my hands up that looking back at footage of some of my arrests where I have had a roll around / assistance shouted, there were times where I have said I should have sprayed/used my baton on him/her at this point and that would have saved a lot of hassle but we all know when we go hands on there is a reluctance to pull back and re-asses the situation as we get dragged into the moment. I agree that baton strikes and CS were on the cards the second the male officer was in the headlock, but the officers did the right thing in their minds and the best they could do during this arrest attempt at the time and thats all anyone can ask for. This footage should be shown at OST training though to show that even two officers can be incapacitated quickly by one person. I can also fully understand the person filming not wanting to get involved - if the offender can do this to two trained officers with PPE, what chance does he have with nothing other than a mobile phone and possibly a few drinks in him? Filming it was probably the only thing he could have done and at least the offender will now be on film (assuming there is no CCTV) allowing a greater chance for apprehension at a later date. Edited July 8, 2015 by SJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyCop + 178 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Baton strike, Captor, Kick to the knackers, whatever it takes to get him off my colleague. indeed Radman if you have your hand round my colleagues neck expect me to do anything to get you of of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radman + 2,165 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 indeed Radman if you have your hand round my colleagues neck expect me to do anything to get you of of them. A few years ago two of my station colleagues were called to two drunk men on a train, no ticket, no money - common TI call. Female officer boards train only to be placed in a headlock by an angry bloke, her shift partner kicked him in the knackers full force and he soon let go... moral of the story is always be wary of TI jobs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosco + 651 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I can also fully understand the person filming not wanting to get involved - if the offender can do this to two trained officers with PPE, what chance does he have with nothing other than a mobile phone and possibly a few drinks in him? Filming it was probably the only thing he could have done and at least the offender will now be on film (assuming there is no CCTV) allowing a greater chance for apprehension at a later date. On the flip side, having a third person perhaps only distracting the male could have been enough to allow one of the officers a chance to get free. Not to mention actually calling 999 to try to get some help there, rather than just filming. However the footage does serve as fantastic evidence for when the male is caught! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyB + 451 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Not isolated either, we had an incident recently where the subject successfully resisted baton, PAVA and being shredded by a land shark and it was a very close call for the lone officer because of the delay in assistance due to location. Hearing it all unfold when you are out of range to respond and are stuck at a job anyway wasn't pleasant. The public just don't realise how difficult suspects can be - on another thread it was mentioned that some thought Taser shouldn't be widely available and only held as a last resort - they should try dealing with some of the people we have to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfer2169 294 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Really sobering stuff this. As a number of posters have said, if I'd seen a colleague pinned to the tarmac like that I think a few very decisive kicks to the torso would be in order. Might look awful on video, but I reckon my 14 stone (and the rest...) channeled through the laces of my Lowas would at least knock the bloke off balance, and hopefully wind the almighty out of him. Failing that, the ASP would be well and truly swinging. I was in a similar-ish situation to this a few months ago, albeit in a flat and with two more officers. Two full cans of PAVA later, the bloke was still trying to bite my oppo's face off. Apparently the panic button transmission was awful to listen to, and the look on one of the PC's face when it conspires we (offender included) were all without serious injury was a picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prolixia 704 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) On another thread it was mentioned that some thought Taser shouldn't be widely available and only held as a last resort That attitude infuriates me and you see it all the time in the media. There seems to be some general consensus outside the police that because Tazers are roughly gun-shaped then they should only be used when shooting someone with a bullet would be justified, and that we're all issued with perfectly good "truncheons". That is of course utter rubbish - anyone carrying a Taser and a baton would need to justify not using it before striking someone with a baton, and when you compare the injuries that result from a Taser discharge and a whack with a steel bar it's easy to see why. Edited July 14, 2015 by prolixia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotLass + 638 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Baton strikes every day of the week. As soon as his knees weren't bending you could tell he wasn't going to go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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