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Hey guys,

I'm starting my met SC training on the 18th (weekend course) and just wondered if there was anyone else on here doing the same?

 

Cheers.

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Unfortunately not, i've been a special since June last year also in the Met and got my day 2 for the regs soon... all I can say to you though is the training is very good! All except for the training on the radios which we left til the very last day and quickly had a go passing the radios round talking on them for about 10 mins.... then when you go on Borough they have the audacity to moan that specials are rubbish with the radio..... my radio training got pushed back every day for a week, and was done literally at the last minute on the last day.... 

Honestly though, overall you'll enjoy it and make new friends... as long as you put the time in to study you'll be fine.

Do you know which RLC (training centre) you're going to? 

Which borough you off to when you attest?

Best of luck with it.

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Hi @PC Will ! I'm training at Peel House. The instructions I've been given are fairly vague really, just a time and place and what to wear. I'm guessing I should take a kit bag with me on my first day?

Re my borough, I have absolutely no idea yet! Maybe I will get told once I start training.....

As you are a relatively recent recruit are there any books you would recommend I buy before I start training?

Also good luck with your day 2! I imagine that being an SC should help you with passing it. I currently work in IT but would consider a jump across to the Met full time if I am any good at it/they will have me. :) 

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7 hours ago, kcl16 said:

Hi @PC Will ! I'm training at Peel House. The instructions I've been given are fairly vague really, just a time and place and what to wear. I'm guessing I should take a kit bag with me on my first day?

Re my borough, I have absolutely no idea yet! Maybe I will get told once I start training.....

As you are a relatively recent recruit are there any books you would recommend I buy before I start training?

Also good luck with your day 2! I imagine that being an SC should help you with passing it. I currently work in IT but would consider a jump across to the Met full time if I am any good at it/they will have me. :) 

Another one who's left the IT bandwagon! I spent 2.5 years working in IT & Telecoms (including an apprenticeship, and two jobs in IT), and 6 months working in retail.

Your first day is always at Peel house (Hendon RLC), mine was back on the 7th March 2016, thereafter I was at Richmond (Sovereign Gate RLC) which was annoying as they told us we were supposed to be at Marlowe House (Sidcup) which is very near to me, Richmond on the other hand is a 2 hour commute.

Just as an idea for timescale for you:

I did the 24 day intensive and finished training around April time last year, I was due to attest in May, but an un-named staff member at Hendon make a cockup and so I was the only one from my group that didn't attest on that day, I got all the way there to be told "your name is not on the list, come back on the 12th June", alas I finally attested on the 12th June in front of proud parents! :)

I then had two station inductions (the first one the Sgt had to shoot off), I had to complete all my NCALTS and finally on the 20th August 2016 I had my first shift, local disorder patrol in a carrier with 2 other specials and 3 regular PC's.

As of the start of the new year i've started going out with Response (ERT) teams as I find it far more variable, i've been in pursuits, domestics, fights, foot chases, stopped and searched a vehicle, and various others, local disorder patrols tend to be the same more or less every shift due to their structure, but i'd recommend them to start off with until you gain experience and feel confident going out with Response teams. I've got more signed off on SOROC in 1 month with ERT than I have in about 6 months with NTT (Neighbourhood tasking team - they run the local disorder patrols).

Hopefully from when you attest to your first shift will be quicker, mine took ages as I had to have two inductions instead of one and the Sgt's were busy with work committments, my baton also still hadn't arrived so the Sgt had to spend time coming in to look for the spare one he could issue me.

On your first day, i'd advise you to wear the following:

Smart Suit/Business wear

  • Shirt
  • Tie
  • Black smart shoes (well polished!)
  • Suit/Jacket/Coat
  • Smart trousers (nothing with logos, definitely no tracksuits!)
  • ID of some sort, driver's licence, passport, etc.
  • A copy of the joining instructions telling you where you are training, just basically print off the email, take this with you to show security if they ask for it.

Basically just dress as if you were going to a job interview, you'll wear this every day during training until you get uniform fitting, mine was right near the end of my course (about 10 days before the end - 1st April).

On your first day, i'd suggest you bring the following with you:

  • Pen (or several!!)
  • Notebook/Lots of paper
  • Packed lunch (although when I was there the canteen was open and "in service" so we could buy snacks/drinks during our break, not sure if it's still open due to part of Hendon recently being sold off to some development firm).
  • You will NOT need to bring a kit bag, you don't do any physical training or anything, just bring a rucksack/manbag to keep your stuff in.
  • More obvious things, such as phone, wallet/change.
  • A clear plastic folder/wallet if you've got one, you get handed lots of paperwork and leaflets from police mutual so it's a good idea to bring one of those if you have it to keep them in.

I'll briefly walk you through your first day...

On arrival, head to the main entrance (where the entrance is for the cars to pull in) basically go through the car entrance at the side, it's the long road which has the roundabout right at the end of it, near the main entrance, walk round to the right as you go through the gate and there's a small hut on the right, there should be either security or a Police officer/PCSO stood in that area, tell them you are there for your first day of training, they may ask to see the letter and/or your ID, or they may ask for neither, they'll tell you to head in, luckily when I was there a PC escorted me to the main entrance, you need to go through the turnstiles, head towards where the main hall is, up the stairs and through the set of double doors, then you'll go up the spiral style staircase and join a queue of people who are also having their first day.

Eventually when you make it to the front of the queue you'll come to a desk where you need to sit down, they'll take your photo and then tell you to head downstairs, you need to head back downstairs, turn left, walk straight ahead and then back left into a small room with a guy sitting behind a PC, when he calls you in next you sit down and he takes your photograph, this is the photograph they use for your warrant card when you pass training and attest at Hendon.

Once that's done you then need to head back upstairs, go past the 1st desk you sat down at for your photo, and directly ahead of you there should be a big room with the raised staged seating (the sort of seating you see in a cinema), go in there, take a seat and get comfy, you'll be spending most of the day in there!

Here you'll have a lot of presentations, you'll have a presentation from the DPS, on do's and dont's, in relation to social media, code of conducts, police principles, etc, you'll meet people who explain a Police mutual healthcare scheme to you (which is very good, I must say, i'm on it).

There's a lot of form filling and writing to be done so make sure you have plenty of working pens with you, you'll also be asked to sign the official secrets act, and agree to sign the MPS contract in relation to your role and duties as a special constable, and the code of conduct.

You'll get usually about 5-10 mins every hour or so for toilet break, then a long main break (About 45 mins - 1 hr) at around 12/1ish to have your lunch, on my first day we went to the canteen and sat down eating and having a good old natter to the candidates (some of which i had met on the induction evening at New Scotland Yard the previous month).

You'll then do .. I think... another hour or two after lunch of admin, form filling, etc and then be dismissed to head home for a well earned rest!

Normally you then start training the next day, at your RLC.

You'll also receive at some point during the first day at Hendon, to your email, a training timetable, with the "dreaded" CS Exposure day, whereby during the OST phase, right at the end of the day they spray you with CS, right before they then allow you to shower, change into the change of clothes you've bought (very important!) and then head home, my CS Exposure day was only 9 days in from the start, as you're on the weekend course though yours will most likely be months down the line.

Apologies if this post is essentially an essay, i'd rather give you too much info that not enough, I found that on my first day you weren't guided too much as to where you needed to go next, at one point i found myself asking a PC who was stood by the main entrance "Where do I go next to get my warrant card photo taken".... to which he simply stated "Sorry mate, don't know".... it's only when the person in front of me in the queue came out of a room I realised where it was I had to go!

If you need anything else, please ask!

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With regards to books, not particularly, most of the stuff you need is given to you, they hand out plenty of notes on the training course, and give you a massive copy of the PNLD [Police National Legal Database] (it's like 40 pages long from memory).

One thing I would advise you to get, is the iPlod app for iOS, i'm not sure if it's on Android but I think it might well be, it's about £0.59 or something along those lines and contains plenty of very useful information, points to prove, crimes by category, crime type search, etc.

 

 

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@PC Will thanks so much for the above!

 

They've said to me in the letter that I'll be at Hendon for the duration (which is good as I am from north of the river). The canteen is apparently out of service Saturday and Sunday which is fine as I was planning on bringing a packed lunch anyway. 

 

I think that all being well I should be attested in June - I kinda wish now that I had done my SC training when I would have been able to do the full time intensive course - but eight consecutive weekends then four Saturdays isn't the worst thing that could happen I guess! It should keep me out of trouble and I'm sure I'll make good friends on such an intensive training course. 

 

Re IT, it's a good career and there are lots of opportunities but I find working with very socially awkward people draining at times!

It really seems as though you've made good progress since attesting - I take it you have IPS status already? I'm really not too bothered about my borough as long as it's one with a good support system so I can learn and decide whether I could/want to be a copper full time :) 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, kcl16 said:

@PC Will thanks so much for the above!

 

They've said to me in the letter that I'll be at Hendon for the duration (which is good as I am from north of the river). The canteen is apparently out of service Saturday and Sunday which is fine as I was planning on bringing a packed lunch anyway. 

 

I think that all being well I should be attested in June - I kinda wish now that I had done my SC training when I would have been able to do the full time intensive course - but eight consecutive weekends then four Saturdays isn't the worst thing that could happen I guess! It should keep me out of trouble and I'm sure I'll make good friends on such an intensive training course. 

 

Re IT, it's a good career and there are lots of opportunities but I find working with very socially awkward people draining at times!

It really seems as though you've made good progress since attesting - I take it you have IPS status already? I'm really not too bothered about my borough as long as it's one with a good support system so I can learn and decide whether I could/want to be a copper full time :) 

 

 

IPS?! I wish, I applied for the regs down the CKP route (in progress), if I was already IPS the process would be quicker and easier for me.

Few of the guys I trained with, well, 2 to be precise, attested in June 2016, same day as me, had their day 1's in November last year for the regs, mine was meant to be then also but I was seriously unwell, so had to defer to the next available date which was Feb, and i found out last week I passed, day 2 in about 2.5 weeks time.

Anyway, they're both now already 6/7 weeks into their 13 weeks of training for the regs, if you've got IPS it can be a very quick process, the issue is getting IPS quickly. I've done about 200 hours and still absolutely miles from reaching IPS, these two on the other hand did around 400 hours within 2 months of attesting and were both IPS by November last year which is pretty staggering.

I've been in the specials for about 9 months, but decided in August last year after 2.5 years in the IT industry, it wasn't for me, and an adrenaline filled job in policing is what I wanted!

Debating going in for early turn shift tomorrow morning with ERT, which means waking up at 5AM! 

I can only hope you have better luck with your attestation than me!

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17 hours ago, PC Will said:

IPS?! I wish, I applied for the regs down the CKP route (in progress), if I was already IPS the process would be quicker and easier for me.

Few of the guys I trained with, well, 2 to be precise, attested in June 2016, same day as me, had their day 1's in November last year for the regs, mine was meant to be then also but I was seriously unwell, so had to defer to the next available date which was Feb, and i found out last week I passed, day 2 in about 2.5 weeks time.

Anyway, they're both now already 6/7 weeks into their 13 weeks of training for the regs, if you've got IPS it can be a very quick process, the issue is getting IPS quickly. I've done about 200 hours and still absolutely miles from reaching IPS, these two on the other hand did around 400 hours within 2 months of attesting and were both IPS by November last year which is pretty staggering.

I've been in the specials for about 9 months, but decided in August last year after 2.5 years in the IT industry, it wasn't for me, and an adrenaline filled job in policing is what I wanted!

Debating going in for early turn shift tomorrow morning with ERT, which means waking up at 5AM! 

I can only hope you have better luck with your attestation than me!

It makes more sense you not having IPS, I've heard it takes 18 months on average to get (assuming you have a full-time job etc as well). I currently fall foul of the three year London residency criteria too so am hoping that changes at some point! :) 

Did you end up going in for a shift with ERT? 

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10 hours ago, kcl16 said:

It makes more sense you not having IPS, I've heard it takes 18 months on average to get (assuming you have a full-time job etc as well). I currently fall foul of the three year London residency criteria too so am hoping that changes at some point! :) 

Did you end up going in for a shift with ERT? 

Unfortunately not, I had a bad night and didn't sleep well at all so didn't wake up in time, although i've slept in a bit today so i'm going in for ERT in the morning, about 4 hours time i'll be getting up and ready to head into the nick. I did an entire day once, then went in having had no sleep for the shift starting at 7AM, we finished at 3PM, I was virtually falling asleep in the back of the car (2 regulars, driver plus operator who rides shotgun and operates the MDT and the Radio, with me crashed out trying not to fall asleep in the back on the way back into the nick at the end of our shift, although we had plenty of I Grades that day which kept me awake.

On one of my previous shifts (10 hours) we didn't have a single I Grade, dealt with 3 S Grade calls all night long, I wasn't particularly tired and wanted to stay out for longer to keep my hours up, went to see the skipper in the briefing room to ask if I could go out for a few hours with Early turn.... told him i'd just come off of Night Duty.... his reply "I admire you hard work ethic and you want to get your hours but honestly, you'll be far too tired, you'll be dragging, so I'm going to say no."... that said i've done a lot of shifts on little, if any, sleep, it's something i'm kind of used to, I sleep less than most people do.

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9 hours ago, PC Will said:

Unfortunately not, I had a bad night and didn't sleep well at all so didn't wake up in time, although i've slept in a bit today so i'm going in for ERT in the morning, about 4 hours time i'll be getting up and ready to head into the nick. I did an entire day once, then went in having had no sleep for the shift starting at 7AM, we finished at 3PM, I was virtually falling asleep in the back of the car (2 regulars, driver plus operator who rides shotgun and operates the MDT and the Radio, with me crashed out trying not to fall asleep in the back on the way back into the nick at the end of our shift, although we had plenty of I Grades that day which kept me awake.

On one of my previous shifts (10 hours) we didn't have a single I Grade, dealt with 3 S Grade calls all night long, I wasn't particularly tired and wanted to stay out for longer to keep my hours up, went to see the skipper in the briefing room to ask if I could go out for a few hours with Early turn.... told him i'd just come off of Night Duty.... his reply "I admire you hard work ethic and you want to get your hours but honestly, you'll be far too tired, you'll be dragging, so I'm going to say no."... that said i've done a lot of shifts on little, if any, sleep, it's something i'm kind of used to, I sleep less than most people do.

Wow, going from a night shift straight onto an early is awesome if a little nuts! I'm also one of those who likes to be kept busy - I find myself climbing the walls of my apartment if I'm there for more than a day without leaving. :) 

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On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 10:10, kcl16 said:

Hey guys,

I'm starting my met SC training on the 18th (weekend course) and just wondered if there was anyone else on here doing the same?

 

Cheers.

Hopefully i will be! Still waiting for vetting to be done. I have induction evening on 8 March! Smart wear I am assuming?

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On 3/4/2017 at 10:25, standby123 said:

Hopefully i will be! Still waiting for vetting to be done. I have induction evening on 8 March! Smart wear I am assuming?

Epic!!! I got an email saying my vetting was done today so hopefully you should hear soon :) I can't attend my induction evening but will be there on the 18th. (pm incoming) . 

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On 04/03/2017 at 10:25, standby123 said:

Hopefully i will be! Still waiting for vetting to be done. I have induction evening on 8 March! Smart wear I am assuming?

Correct, smart formal wear, dress as if you were going for a job interview, smart shirt, tie, suit jacket, smart black/navy blue/grey trousers, polished shoes, etc, you want to make a good impression. :)

I remember my induction evening.... good fun.

I take it yours is still at New Scotland Yard?

 

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@PC Will I can't make my induction evening. I have major FOMO but I'm sure all will be revealed next Saturday! 

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4 hours ago, kcl16 said:

@PC Will I can't make my induction evening. I have major FOMO but I'm sure all will be revealed next Saturday! 

Honestly, you aren't missing out on much, it's more a "do's and dont's" thing (social media posts, general conduct in public, not to misuse the police computer systems, etc).

Assuming it's the same as it was when I had mine (Feb 2016) you'll sit in the room at New Scotland Yard, for about 2 hours running through presentations of what to do, what not to do, your uniform; what it looks like and how it's worn, how they expect you to look immaculately turned out, what your police oyster entitles you to and what you are not entitled to using it.

The basic layout of training, and anything else i've forgotten.

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7 hours ago, PC Will said:

Honestly, you aren't missing out on much, it's more a "do's and dont's" thing (social media posts, general conduct in public, not to misuse the police computer systems, etc).

Assuming it's the same as it was when I had mine (Feb 2016) you'll sit in the room at New Scotland Yard, for about 2 hours running through presentations of what to do, what not to do, your uniform; what it looks like and how it's worn, how they expect you to look immaculately turned out, what your police oyster entitles you to and what you are not entitled to using it.

The basic layout of training, and anything else i've forgotten.

Brilliant thanks @PC Will. As an aside, are specials with IPS able to apply internally for a regular PC role if you don't meet the London residency rule? I have heard mixed opinions but just wanted to ask someone who is currently serving. 

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