bluearsedfly 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Hi, I'm studying for my guv'nors next september but I'd like to start asa as I now have all the books/ crammers. Has anyone got a study plan I can use to get the drop so I don't need to use all my precious annual as study leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Still 1 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 How have you managed to get hold of next year's books when they don't get published until 21st September?????? I'll tell you about my study plan if I pass - at least then you'll know if it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluearsedfly 0 Posted September 16, 2006 Author Share Posted September 16, 2006 I got them through my force at a discount £56 for the manuals and Q&A's and they do say 2007 on them A fly in the know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Still 1 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 You've been ripped off! WMP give them away for nothing - as long as you sit the exam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluearsedfly 0 Posted September 16, 2006 Author Share Posted September 16, 2006 I get the money back if i sit it too or they'll pay for one of these crammer courses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Still 1 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Fairy nuff! My advice, for what it's worth, is not to get too bogged down in the little used pieces of legislation. Traffic makes up about 10% of the exam, so stick to the obvious stuff, such as drink/drive. Would you believe they asked a question on skips in the exam this week? Why on earth would a gaffer need to know about skips??? If you read the Police Review Q&A, they do ask the sort of questions that are in the exam, although the PR questions are longer and more detailed. If you learn the caselaw they mention, it will stand you in good stead. Any of the new legislation in the book will probably not be tested in the exam, remember they need to ask validation questions before testing on it, so that will mean there will be no marks in the next exam. About this time last year, I got the manuals and thought exactly the same as you - get in early and get some learning under my belt. By November, I was completely pissed off with it and put it away until February. Even then, I did most of my revision in the last eight weeks. Whether this was enough will remain to be seen. The way I did it this year was to take notes of the obvious stuff, then read it out and recorded it onto an MP3 player and played it back at every opportunity. Sent me to sleep many times!!! Seriously though, you find yourself anticipating what you are about to say, which shows it is sinking in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penbwlch 810 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 The method I used (for both the PS and Insp exams) was what our instructor called the CAE method. Coefficient of Adhesion of Effluent (if you sling enough sh*t, some of it must stick). He had worked out the most and least probable questions and then sorted them. Each week he would give us a list of what to read (note; read, not learn). There was a lot of it and it amounted to 2 or 3 hours reading a day. The more likely subject matters repeated more often than the less likely ones. That way you had read everything (just in case) but the more common stuff you ended up word perfect with, without trying. The group taking the PS exam all passed, with the lowest score being 98%. Again, all his students passed the Inspector's exam but I cannot remember the marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian1545925477 1 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Great....just what we need, more guvnors. None of you are getting called 'Sir' on here you know? You know those really annoying people with really good memories? Fortunately, I'm one of those. Bloody handy thing to have for doing this job. So I tend to read things and remember them enough to be able to answer questions. Strangely though, it doesn't kick in for a few hours/days/weeks. So if I go and see a film at the cinema for instance I've forgotten it all when I walk out. Sometime later I may see a small reference to it and remember the lot. My study plan would consist of reading the books once then turning up for the exam. Hope that helps. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Still 1 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 My study plan would consist of reading the books once then turning up for the exam. Hope that helps. Brian It would if you had taken the exam and proved it in practice, but seeing as you are still PC Brian, we'll take it under advisement, as they say in crap American law dramas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian1545925477 1 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 It would if you had taken the exam and proved it in practice' date=' but seeing as you are still PC Brian, we'll take it under advisement, as they say in crap American law dramas [/quote'] Mr Jays, While I STILL earn similar money to my Inspector (he beat me £900 last year) I will STILL continue to remain PC Brian. Besides there are many reasons why I am not (and never will be) on the greasy pole. Being concerned about passing a multi-guess exam isn't one of them. Hope that helps. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Still 1 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Ah well - I was hoping to be able to discuss multi-agency strategies and such like with you in the future. Looks like I'll have to work it out myself. (Obviously assuming that I passed Part 1 and manage to con my way through Part 2 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian1545925477 1 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Ah well - I was hoping to be able to discussmulti-agency strategies and such like with you in the future. Looks like I'll have to work it out myself. (Obviously assuming that I passed Part 1 and manage to con my way through Part 2 ) I'll be happy to chat about partnership strategies with you when you're up to my speed. (Who do you think ultimately pays for my overtime? I'll give you a clue..... It's not the Met.) One of our MP's will be out with us again in a couple of weeks, I'll be sure to mention what a good guvnor you'd make, after I've done a bit of ear-bending about the 3% that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penbwlch 810 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Great....just what we need' date=' more guvnors. None of you are getting called 'Sir' on here you know?[/quote'] Unless in front of members of the public or very senior officers, I never insisted on it before. I just settled for officers doing what they have been asked to do. What I was called was irrelevant. You know those really annoying people with really good memories? Fortunately' date=' I'm one of those. Bloody handy thing to have for doing this job. So I tend to read things and remember them enough to be able to answer questions. Brian [/quote'] At a previous station (you know which one, Brian) I was once told, by a Sergeant, that I had an unfortunate memory. When I asked for him to elaborate, he said "well, you always remember the things we would rather you forget". Penbwlch38976.8401736111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Dreben 0 Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Passed mine this time around and there was a LOT of questions that weren't about the legislation or points to prove but about the little defences and stated cases etc (and about 10 questions on intimate sample from juvvies!). The new version of Blackstones have all the SOCAP stuff as part of the books, mine didn't they produced a print out later to add in, very hard work. I used a combination of Blackstones and Tom Barrons crammer BUT I would now recommend the new Blackstones Police Operational Handbook which is about 16 quid from Amazon instead of the crammer. If you learn most of it you won't go far wrong. I wouldn't bother with the courses for the part 1 unless the job is going to pay for it up front, I don't know anyone who thought they were that good (unless you had done no revision that is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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