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Former officer was subjected to unconscious and direct discrimination due to his ethnic origin.

 

Date - 5th October 2018
By - Ian Weinfass - Police Oracle

2 Comments

 

A former North Yorkshire Police sergeant who faced more obstacles to promotion than his white colleagues has settled with the force for £95,000.

In May, an employment tribunal found that Zaheer Ahmed had been subjected to discrimination on the grounds of race.

His allegations included a claim that, even though he had passed his inspectors exam, he was not allowed to progress in the same way as other officers.

A judge found that he was subjected to unconscious race discrimination, plus two instances of direct discrimination, due to his Pakistani ethnic origin.

On one occasion he was called a racist name by a detainee in custody. Colleagues dropped an investigation on the grounds the detainee was “not being serious”.

North Yorkshire Police has now agreed to pay him £95,000, which is made up of compensation and a contribution towards legal costs. 

In a statement, Mr Ahmed said: “I’m grateful that North Yorkshire Police has acknowledged what happened and given me an apology. 

“I have accepted that the discrimination was unconscious, and I do think that the force has moved on from the days when discrimination was ignored. North Yorkshire Police has shown it is trying to tackle unconscious bias, and I think this is a positive step.

“I met some outstanding individuals whilst working in the force, and I am proud of my service and the contribution I made as a police officer. 

“It is vital for the police and the public that people from black and minority ethnic communities are strongly represented in the police workforce, and given the work North Yorkshire Police is now doing to support that, I encourage people from BAME communities to serve at North Yorkshire Police.”

Chief Constable Lisa Winward said: “I am committed to providing a positive working environment for every member of our workforce, and to tackling discrimination wherever it is found in our organisation.

“As well as offering my sincere apology, I would like to give my thanks to Mr Ahmed for his service, contribution and for bringing these matters to our attention. I wish him well in his retirement. It has been well-earned.”

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[Reasonable Man + 1,231]

I wonder how many will disagree with the judge and claim the Sgt played the ‘race card’?

[Zulu 22 + 4,571]

4 hours ago, Reasonable Man said:

I wonder how many will disagree with the judge and claim the Sgt played the ‘race card’?

Don't they always. I have known of many white officers who did not get promoted when many thought that they deserved to. I can also recall several cases of a an ethnic origin officer being promoted because he/she was from an ethnic minority.  There can also be many other reasons. In the GMP before any promotions the list of officers was forwarded to PSD for vetting. If any on the lust had outstanding complaints then, they would not be promoted. 

The article states, "A judge found that he was subjected to unconscious race discrimination, plus two instances of direct discrimination, due to his Pakistani ethnic origin. On one occasion he was called a racist name by a detainee in custody. Colleagues dropped an investigation on the grounds the detainee was “not being serious”. 

Is that statement serious. Two occasions of direct discrimination, one when a detainee, I would rather use the term prisoner, called him a racist name.  How many years service did he have in, and yet only two incidents. I experienced a lot more racist incidents towards me in may service and I am white. It is part of the job and should be like water off a duck's back.

But we are not privy to all of the information, are we.

[Reasonable Man + 1,231]

Don't they always. I have known of many white officers who did not get promoted when many thought that they deserved to. I can also recall several cases of a an ethnic origin officer being promoted because he/she was from an ethnic minority.  There can also be many other reasons. In the GMP before any promotions the list of officers was forwarded to PSD for vetting. If any on the lust had outstanding complaints then, they would not be promoted. 

The article states, "A judge found that he was subjected to unconscious race discrimination, plus two instances of direct discrimination, due to his Pakistani ethnic origin. On one occasion he was called a racist name by a detainee in custody. Colleagues dropped an investigation on the grounds the detainee was “not being serious”. 

Is that statement serious. Two occasions of direct discrimination, one when a detainee, I would rather use the term prisoner, called him a racist name.  How many years service did he have in, and yet only two incidents. I experienced a lot more racist incidents towards me in may service and I am white. It is part of the job and should be like water off a duck's back.

But we are not privy to all of the information, are we.

Top of my list. [emoji23]

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Top of my list. [emoji23]

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Would it be considered racist if someone asked a police officer 'Where are you from?'

I only ask as I've had that question posed to me twice this week on the basis that I don't speak with the local 'twang' - thank heavens!

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On 06/10/2018 at 20:03, Zulu 22 said:

Don't they always.

Sorry - who would 'they' be exactly?

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9 minutes ago, TheMoo said:

Sorry - who would 'they' be exactly?

A little mischievous to quote 3 words, out of context, from a four paragraph comment. The reply was to Reasonableman who stated,   "I wonder how many will disagree with the judge and claim the Sgt played the ‘race card’?"  He seemed able to understand it.

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41 minutes ago, Zulu 22 said:

A little mischievous to quote 3 words, out of context, from a four paragraph comment. The reply was to Reasonableman who stated,   "I wonder how many will disagree with the judge and claim the Sgt played the ‘race card’?"  He seemed able to understand it.

Not really - I'm not being accusatory, or even making a comment. I'm asking for a clarification, on who 'they' is - people using a race card, or people claiming the Sgt played a race card?

[Reasonable Man + 1,231]

A little mischievous to quote 3 words, out of context, from a four paragraph comment. The reply was to Reasonableman who stated,   "I wonder how many will disagree with the judge and claim the Sgt played the ‘race card’?"  He seemed able to understand it.

I took it literally, that you consider that Sgts always play the ‘race card’.

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3 minutes ago, Reasonable Man said:

I took it literally, that you consider that Sgts always play the ‘race card’.

The rank is immaterial, it is the willingness that people play the race card which, usually means that they are struggling for justification.

[Reasonable Man + 1,231]

The rank is immaterial, it is the willingness that people play the race card which, usually means that they are struggling for justification.

Ah! So all people always play the race card then?

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13 hours ago, Reasonable Man said:

Ah! So all people always play the race card then?

Part of my comment was "The rank is immaterial, it is the willingness that people play the race card"  No where does that say or imply that All people, (as you quote), always play the race card. It is a sad fact that in many cases reported this is so. Many in no way indicates that they all do. You are getting very picky at trying to make points which are not there.

[Reasonable Man + 1,231]

Part of my comment was "The rank is immaterial, it is the willingness that people play the race card"  No where does that say or imply that All people, (as you quote), always play the race card. It is a sad fact that in many cases reported this is so. Many in no way indicates that they all do. You are getting very picky at trying to make points which are not there.

You really need to be clear in what you post. TheMoo clearly didn’t understand what you meant and asked who the ‘they’ you referred to were. You didn’t answer that but said the I obviously understood. So I helped out by giving my understanding, which was wrong as you said you did not mean Sgts always play the race card.
However I am now confused and intrigued as to what you did mean when you said ‘Don’t they always’. You didn’t mean Sgts and you didn’t mean all people, so which subset of people always play the race card - in your opinion?

[Zulu 22 + 4,571]

Do not use a quote about Judges decisions and try to transplant them into another post. In that post I was actually agreeing with you. But then twist anything which ever way suits you.👋