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There have been 100 homicides in London so far this year.

Mayor of London Sadiq Khan

Mayor of London Sadiq Khan

Date - 11th September 2018
By - By Margaret Davis

 

Plans to move 122 officers from a traffic unit to a violent crime taskforce for three months are "just a sticking plaster", it has been claimed.

London Mayor Sadiq Khan announced the move this morning amid concerns about levels of violent crime in the capital.

There have been 100 homicides in London so far this year, with around a third of the victims aged 16 to 24 and most being fatal stabbings.

The extra officers, added to the taskforce's existing 150, will move from the Metropolitan Police Roads and Transport Policing Command and start work on Monday.

Since its launch in April, the taskforce has made 895 arrests, carried out 1,400 weapons sweeps, seized 212 knives and 200 other offensive weapons, City Hall said.

Mr Khan said: "This is drastic action that I would rather we didn't have to take, but the government's persistent refusal to give our police service the funding it desperately needs has left with us with no choice.

"The level of violent crime in London is unacceptably high."

The Mayor said the Met's Roads and Transport unit, made up of 2,300 officers and PCSOs, is the largest police unit in the UK and the force will aim to minimise the impact of the move.

As part of efforts to stem the rise in violent crime, a £45 million Young Londoners Fund has also been set up to get young people away from crime and into work or training.

But Steve O' Connell, chairman of the London Assembly Police and Crime Committee, said: "Let's not forget that under Sadiq Khan crime in London is going through the roof.

"Knife crime has increased by nearly 50 per cent over the course of Khan's mayoralty and the murder rate has surged by over 40 per cent.

"I welcome any measures taken to beef up the police's response to the sky-high levels of violent crime in our city.

"However, this is clearly a knee-jerk reaction from the Mayor following a summer of violent crime.

"Londoners shouldn't have to wait for Sadiq Khan to suffer a bout of bad publicity before action is taken to keep people safe.

"This is just sticking plaster - these extra officers will only be in place for three months.

"Rather than temporarily shifting officers around, the Mayor should be setting out a robust, long-term plan for tackling violent crime."

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Khan does not have much of an idea, does he.He fails to say how many of those 100 murders have been black on black which would be a large proportion. Taking those officers will do little for Scooter Crime, again predominently black crime. £45 million for a young London ers fund, I though money was scarce.

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Stop and search was tried in New York City. It offended many and, proportionally, came up with little.  Perhaps it might do better in London.

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A special squad of 275 odd Officers allocated to a violent crime task force has the potential to make a dent in crime, if deployed correctly. So long as they are proactively targeting criminals using intelligence led policing at key hot spots then there is hope.

 

Like it or not, stop and search in targeted areas does have an impact on how many people choose to carry weapons. I can’t remember the last time I saw a TSG carrier parked up with 4 or 5 people up against the wall getting turned over.

 

There were almost invisible boundaries painted on the floor in London that designated where certain individuals would be more likely to get turned over. These seems to have faded out as the MET felt less confident in using targeted stop and search.

 

 Whilst I feel that stop and search was not used as targeted as it could have been, I kinda get the impression that people are just shrugging their shoulders in some areas because they just don’t want the grief.

 

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A special squad of 275 odd Officers allocated to a violent crime task force has the potential to make a dent in crime, if deployed correctly. So long as they are proactively targeting criminals using intelligence led policing at key hot spots then there is hope.
 
Like it or not, stop and search in targeted areas does have an impact on how many people choose to carry weapons. I can’t remember the last time I saw a TSG carrier parked up with 4 or 5 people up against the wall getting turned over.
 
There were almost invisible boundaries painted on the floor in London that designated where certain individuals would be more likely to get turned over. These seems to have faded out as the MET felt less confident in using targeted stop and search.
 
 Whilst I feel that stop and search was not used as targeted as it could have been, I kinda get the impression that people are just shrugging their shoulders in some areas because they just don’t want the grief.
 
The TSG still use stop and search heavily, it's still the vast majority of the job.

That being said, with the job over-scrutinizing searches, they've definitely decreased in number, as have the number of arrests.
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The TSG still use stop and search heavily, it's still the vast majority of the job.

That being said, with the job over-scrutinizing searches, they've definitely decreased in number, as have the number of arrests.


The just don’t recall a time that I have seen them in the last year or so like I once did a couple of times a month.

Not a criticism- just a reflection.
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1 hour ago, Goldfgy said:

Stop and search was tried in New York City. It offended many and, proportionally, came up with little.  Perhaps it might do better in London.

You are aware that stop and search isn’t a new thing? 

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But think how good his headlines will be when the traffic problems increase..  they can then say the traffic has been boosted by 100 officers.  It’s political chess

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7 hours ago, BlueBob said:

But think how good his headlines will be when the traffic problems increase..  they can then say the traffic has been boosted by 100 officers.  It’s political chess

The traffic problems today will still be there tomorrow. Most of the officers going on this attachment aren’t ‘traffic officers’. They’re what Jay from The Inbetweeners would refer to as ‘Bus w****ers’.

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14 hours ago, Indiana Jones said:

About 3 per borough.

That's a quarter of some of the shifts I've worked.  

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1 hour ago, HazRat said:

The traffic problems today will still be there tomorrow. Most of the officers going on this attachment aren’t ‘traffic officers’. They’re what Jay from The Inbetweeners would refer to as ‘Bus w****ers’.

TFL management won't be happy considering it pays the Met a substantial amount for those cops.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul here it seems.

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That's a quarter of some of the shifts I've worked.  
It's the entire Rota of some shifts I've worked unfortunately.
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10 minutes ago, Indiana Jones said:
3 hours ago, Beaker said:
That's a quarter of some of the shifts I've worked.  

It's the entire Rota of some shifts I've worked unfortunately.

It's 300% of some of mine...

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