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'It is a small station and it would have had an embarrassing impact for years to come', hearing told.

A police officer who shared a snap of another officer's penis was told, “do not show it to anyone else” before two more colleagues found out, a misconduct hearing was told.

PC Katie Jackson had been told in a ten-minute conversation by her boss that she should not “blow it out of proportion”.

Detective Sergeant John Burrell of Humberside Police claimed PC Jackson and the officer who sent her the picture "had been flirting" and the explicit snap had been subsequently sent.

Det Sgt Burrell said he was PC Jackson's unofficial line manager at the time and ordered her not to show anyone else the explicit snap.

He said he was notified to the situation by PC Jackson the day after she received the text of the explicit picture at Goole Police Station, East Yorks.

But, just hours later, two more colleagues had said they had also seen the picture of the officer's genitalia.

Det Sgt John Burrell told PC Jackson's misconduct hearing: "Kate came to me saying that she had been sent this picture. I did not look at the picture and had no desire to see it.

"In the ten minutes we spoke together I told her specifically and categorically not to show this to anyone else. I told her the legal and social implications this would have on her if she showed more people.

"It is a small station in Goole and it would have had an embarrassing impact and repercussions for years to come. The whole reason why I wanted her not to show anyone else was because I didn't want it to all blow out of proportion."

Chair of the independent police panel, Louisa Cieciora asked Det Sgt Burrell if he had given the instruction to Jackson not to tell anyone else at the station as advice or as an order.

He replied: "It wasn't as if I said 'I'm ordering you', but I told her do not to show it to anyone else.

"It was contained to three people, I think, maybe more I'm not sure. There were three names on the list anyway who knew.

"But then I was disappointed hours later when other colleagues were aware of the picture after I spoke to Kate about it."

PC Jackson is alleged to have caused upset and distress to a number of colleagues by showing an explicit image to fellow officers on September 23, 2016.

The hearing heard she had "not done anything to warrant the picture being sent" by the officer - who cannot be named for legal reasons.

Sarah Barlow, defending the officer, said Jackson had bourne the brunt of workplace gossip and rumours.

Mrs Barlow said Jackson had shown the image sent to her via text to her colleague because they had requested to see it.

However, her colleague PC Rachel Aire insisted she was shown it without warning and was left shocked and upset.

When asked about being shown the picture, PC Aire said: "When I found out who it was [in the picture] it made me not be able to look the person in the face ever again.

"I was shown the picture without warning and I was shocked. Thinking about it, if I had a choice, I would have chosen not to ask to find out what she [Jackson] was laughing at."

Jackson also faces two charges of gross misconduct after claiming she had been assaulted while detaining a violent offender at a hospital on August 13, 2016.

The hearing was told she was restraining a man alongside a colleague. While restraining the man, Jackson claimed the bed had hit her stomach on the metal bed frame.

However, PC Timothy Lee rubbished the claims saying he was not aware “serious injuries” had been taken place and had told colleagues afterwards "she was outside the room chatting-up a doctor".

PC Lee said he witnessed the hospital detainee, who had “slashed his wrists down to the bone”, push past both himself and PC Jackson.

He said he was shocked when he received a text from his colleague that she was off sick because of a stomach injury.

However, the hearing was told a doctor confirmed she was showing signs of blood in her urine and in February 2017 she was diagnosed with a 4cm hernia in her chest.

Describing the incident, PC Lee told the hearing: "PC Jackson was not pushed very hard at all. I was pushed just as hard.

"It's bad for me to say it but being pushed and shoved is just part and parcel of the business of being a police officer.

"If we had to arrest someone every time we were pushed and shoved we would not get anything done."

The hearing, which is expected to last three days, continues.

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[ParochialYokal 1,119]

The reality is that in the modern world that flirtation can include sending intimate pics. The fact that the sender is not being pursued suggests that he has no criminal or disciplinary case to answer. I won’t speculate that she will encouraged him but the fact that she is being caste as the bad guy here suggests that the sender hasn’t done anything wrong.

 

To show off someone else’s intimate pics to colleagues in a professional context is an abhorrent form of bullying. It is undermining. It a form of psychological violence.

 

Let’s reverse this- what if a male Officer was the recipient of pics involving a female Officer’s breasts or vagina and then showed them off? He would be strung up! And quite rightly so!

 

So why should this be considered in a different way because the perpetrator is a female? She was even warned about her abhorrent behaviour. She had insight into her own conduct but clearly thought that her gender acted as some form of currency to protect her.

 

She has committed an abhorrent act that sought to undermine the professional perception of a male colleague but seemingly is hiding behind her gender to minimise the perception of severity.

 

She needs to go. More importantly in the more modern and equal world (where double standards have no place) women need to understand that this form of abhorrent and sexist bullying is not acceptable.

 

 

 

 

 

[David + 4,981]

Fully agreed @ParochialYokal

We do seem to have a weird double standard of equality at times inasmuch as if this had been a male sharing images of a female (or perhaps even of another male) he'd have been strung up and then dismembered by the feminists.

What worries me is, why the female needed to be told not to share such images in the first place.

[BlueBob + 692]

Wonder when it will be revealed what actions the 'Unofficial line manager' did with regard to the sender of the image?  

[Fedster + 1,307]

A police officer who showed a photo of a male officer's genitals to colleagues has been given a final written warning.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-44458648

[Zulu 22 + 4,571]

17 hours ago, ParochialYokal said:

She has committed an abhorrent act that sought to undermine the professional perception of a male colleague but seemingly is hiding behind her gender to minimise the perception of severity.

She needs to go. More importantly in the more modern and equal world (where double standards have no place) women need to understand that this form of abhorrent and sexist bullying is not acceptable.

Hold a moment how abhorrent is it for an officer to even send such pictures by text; it does not say much for his professional standards.  It could well be argued that her standards are higher than the D.C. who saw fit to publish them in a text message.  If she has faced disciplinary action then he certainly should also, without those pictures she would not have been in jeopardy.

[sierragolf95 + 55]

I must be one of the few people that doesn't have a tendency to send pictures of my genitals in the name of "flirting", it seems to be the new norm. That said, it does say she had previously received photos and told him not to send any more, maybe it was a revenge attempt? Certainly not the brightest of ideas, but she has kept her job and probably got the result she wanted as I imagine he's pretty humiliated about it. I would say that if it was a male they'd probably end up sacked and prosecuted under the new revenge porn legislation...

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1 hour ago, sierragolf95 said:

I must be one of the few people that doesn't have a tendency to send pictures of my genitals in the name of "flirting", it seems to be the new norm. That said, it does say she had previously received photos and told him not to send any more, maybe it was a revenge attempt? Certainly not the brightest of ideas, but she has kept her job and probably got the result she wanted as I imagine he's pretty humiliated about it. I would say that if it was a male they'd probably end up sacked and prosecuted under the new revenge porn legislation...

Difficult to criticise the morals of society when there are two officers who do not seem to have any. A condemnation of society or of the standard of Police Officer.

[ParochialYokal 1,119]

Hold a moment how abhorrent is it for an officer to even send such pictures by text; it does not say much for his professional standards.  It could well be argued that her standards are higher than the D.C. who saw fit to publish them in a text message.  If she has faced disciplinary action then he certainly should also, without those pictures she would not have been in jeopardy.

If the sending of the picture had been unsolicited then the sending would have faced either criminal or disciplinary charges.

Within the context of no such suggestion, we can conclude that no adverse interpretation can be made about what he did.

I personally have a philosophy that you shouldn’t poop where you eat. Whilst what he did was ‘inadvisable’ in this modern age where we don’t ‘victim blame’ there should be no judgement of what he did.

I will repeat my previous analogy of how would this be viewed if a male Officer was showing pictures of a female Officer’s tits?

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15 hours ago, ParochialYokal said:

If the sending of the picture had been unsolicited then the sending would have faced either criminal or disciplinary charges.

Within the context of no such suggestion, we can conclude that no adverse interpretation can be made about what he did.

I personally have a philosophy that you shouldn’t poop where you eat. Whilst what he did was ‘inadvisable’ in this modern age where we don’t ‘victim blame’ there should be no judgement of what he did.

I will repeat my previous analogy of how would this be viewed if a male Officer was showing pictures of a female Officer’s tits?

 

The whole incident is completely demeaning and gives discredit to every Police Officer.  Surely we are above abhorrent behaviour like this, and both officers bear equal shame.

[ParochialYokal 1,119]

The whole incident is completely demeaning and gives discredit to every Police Officer.  Surely we are above abhorrent behaviour like this, and both officers bear equal shame.

I’m not above such ‘abhorrent behaviour’- I just wouldn’t engage in such behaviour with a work colleague.

It’s not uncommon these days to share dick pics with people. So long as they are not unsolicited then such behaviour is part and parcel of modern day life.

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1 hour ago, ParochialYokal said:

I’m not above such ‘abhorrent behaviour’- I just wouldn’t engage in such behaviour with a work colleague.

It’s not uncommon these days to share dick pics with people. So long as they are not unsolicited then such behaviour is part and parcel of modern day life.

 

Then it is a huge condemnation of society as a whole and ANY Police Officer or employee who even thinks it is acceptable. Perhaps some of us have higher moral and ethical standards.

[ParochialYokal 1,119]

Then it is a huge condemnation of society as a whole and ANY Police Officer or employee who even thinks it is acceptable. Perhaps some of us have higher moral and ethical standards.

I think you might still be stuck in the dark ages. The world has moved on.

Like I said, I wouldn’t do anything like that with colleagues but what he did- assuming it was not unsolicited- is a private matter.

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15 hours ago, ParochialYokal said:

 

I think you might still be stuck in the dark ages. The world has moved on.

Like I said, I wouldn’t do anything like that with colleagues but what he did- assuming it was not unsolicited- is a private matter.

 

I think you will find that the majority  are quite happy to remain in the dark ages where the word respect actually meant something. Both parties are not worthy of being in the Police. Perhaps you should be more worried about people who have the attitude where they think that this sort of thing is ok as long as it is not colleagues. 

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19 hours ago, Zulu 22 said:

Then it is a huge condemnation of society as a whole and ANY Police Officer or employee who even thinks it is acceptable. Perhaps some of us have higher moral and ethical standards.

Assuming the pics were sent away from work to a “flirting” partner then being police officers has little to do with it, and for some it may be completely acceptable.   Bring that into the work place, that’s when it becomes an issue.  

Back to the OP, still sobering how the unofficial line manager got involved.  Did he go to her, she go to him?  However it was done, it could have been done better.