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New community stations will reduce the need for officers to travel miles from deployment centres

 

More than 100 PCSO bases are to be introduced in Cheshire - including at a golf club and a fire station.

Under Cheshire Police and Crime Commissioner David Keane’s initiative to get “more feet on the beat,” PCSOs will be stationed at bases within their assigned communities.

The plans will reduce the need to travel to and from deployment centres and increase time and visibility in communities.

The locations proposed included a petrol station but this was ruled out due to “constant moving vehicles and a lack of private room within the retail space”.

According to a report, the cost of the 122 bases will be minimal with some introduced from June. However, it could take until the end of the year for each base to be fully operational.

Extra booking in bases will also be introduced after PCSOs were “left frustrated” due to taking longer to travel to their areas as a result of the force’s decision to introduce single booking on stations for operational staff.

David Keane, police and crime commissioner for Cheshire, said: “PCSOs are an important part of local policing teams across Cheshire. They are the ‘eyes and ears’ of local communities, gathering intelligence to deal with complex police issues, whilst providing support to vulnerable residents, and focusing on making our roads safer.

“These bases will provide the facilities for PCSOs to spend more time in the heart of the community they serve, increasing interaction with local residents and allowing them to have more visibility in our communities.

“Under the previous model, some PCSOs were travelling miles each day to the community they were based in, wasting valuable time.

“When I was elected I promised the residents of Cheshire ‘more feet on the beat’. Providing every community in Cheshire with their own named, recognisable community officer is helping us achieve this vision.”

 

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I don't wish to be pessimistic but this will need excellent leadership at Sgt level to prevent this all going balls up.

I remember the Met had pretty much an entire safer neighbourhood team sacked after No one managed their office and they spent most days sat in the office.

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The patch I normally work on is doing similar. Station is closing when the new divisional HQ opens, and I read in the paper they're distributing the NHPT to small offices around the area.

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Not practical. There are not enough PCSOs which means that some of them  will have to cover several hubs! 

There are not enough cars either.

The reality is that the "hubs" will be staffed a couple of hours a week after the most.

It will be like the surgeries no one turns up anyway apart from the local busybody who wants to complain about dog poo.

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It is short sightedness in Cheshire that they have closed Stations and now advertise that PCSO's will be available in various locations for a coffee and a talk. The unavailability of any officer in Cheshire does not go down well with the communities. It is short sighted that PCSO's and officers parade at stations which can be 10 to 15 miles away from where they are required; that is just bad management brought about by idiotic policies set up over the years.

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I hope Cheshire will ensure that employees at these bases have sufficient welfare facilities. Employees based at FHQ and larger police stations will have access to showers and cooking facilitates, whilst I fear those in this new patrol bases will suffer. 

 

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7 minutes ago, SOP said:

I hope Cheshire will ensure that employees at these bases have sufficient welfare facilities. Employees based at FHQ and larger police stations will have access to showers and cooking facilitates, whilst I fear those in this new patrol bases will suffer. 

  

Haha sounds like our mob doesn't it? Stick 'em in a cupboard at a railway station and hope for the best. Often with no windows and facilities/amenities all spread out. Though to be fair our ACPO ranks are appalled at some of our estates, just beyond their power to fix it.

Obviously any police terminals will need to stored in an area compliant with the GPMS and HO Police Design buildings guidelines, then there's the supervisory aspect. IPCC as was issued guidance about distance supervision and that becomes even harder when they're outbased from a nick at a local building. Surprised they haven't told them to patrol from their houses a-la 60s policing!

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5 minutes ago, MindTheGap said:

Haha sounds like our mob doesn't it? Stick 'em in a cupboard at a railway station and hope for the best. Often with no windows and facilities/amenities all spread out. Though to be fair our ACPO ranks are appalled at some of our estates, just beyond their power to fix it.

Obviously any police terminals will need to stored in an area compliant with the GPMS and HO Police Design buildings guidelines, then there's the supervisory aspect. IPCC as was issued guidance about distance supervision and that becomes even harder when they're outbased from a nick at a local building. Surprised they haven't told them to patrol from their houses a-la 60s policing!

The disparity in accommodation  across the forces is shocking.  The force needs to sign up to minimum standards for any new accommodation. 

On further investigation it seems that these bases are intended to be used for surgeries which will be ran at least ones a week. I can't help but ask what the PCSOs were doing before, I would imagine that these surgeries were being run at some of these locations anyway! 

http://www.chesterstandard.co.uk/news/16226386.Dozens_of_new_policing_bases_to_be_set_up_across_Cheshire/ 

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The PCC is a waste of space and at the moment he has a free hand whilst his ill conceived and vexatious discipline action against the Chief Constable continues. From the day he was elected Keane did not like the Chief Constable. Keane had more than adequate offices and staff at the Force Headquarters where he and the Chief had easy access.  He could not wait to get out of the building and move his retinue to Warrington, at a waste of time, energy and money.  The closure of Police Buildings left them in the position of lack of offices for officers and PCSO's.  That is what happens when a novice takes over.