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Chiefs to decide on special constable taser use

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Second decision will follow the green-light for probationers earlier this year.

Chiefs to decide on special constable taser use

A decision on whether specials can be issued with taser is to be taken by chief constables.

The National Police Chiefs’ Council has confirmed the issue is to be considered at its July meeting.

Earlier this year it gave the green-light for probationers to use the less lethal weapons.

Preparations for this to happen in practice are ongoing.

The issue of special constables and probationers having access to taser came back onto the agenda after the London Bridge attacks and the injuries suffered by PC Wayne Marques, a probationer who tried to fight three knife-wielding terrorists with a baton.

It was agreed to take the decisions in two phases, with specials’ access discussed after issues with allowing trainee officers to have it had been worked out.

A spokesman for the NPCC said: “Chief constables are set to discuss whether specials can be issued with taser at a meeting in July.”

Association of Special Constabulary Officers chairman Ian Miller told Police Oracle: “The view of ASCO is that taser is an integral part of personal protective equipment.

“Frontline officers whether regular or special should have access to taser if they meet the national standards and are prepared to undertake the training.”

Last year when she gave an overview of the debate around changing the rules, NPCC chairman Sara Thornton outlined reasons why some chiefs opposed extending its use.

She said: “The public are often very concerned about tasers and there have been cases where people have been harmed inappropriately and therefore we need to be very careful that we can reassure the public that when tasers are used they are used by officers who are knowledgeable, mature in their assessment and therefore we need to take a careful approach.”

She would not be drawn on her own view.

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While I am interested in this, I'm also sceptical that they'll allow it. The first time it comes to light an SC draws a taser the national press will be up in arms.

For the most part I'd appreciate the training, and the extra tools in the box. I am however also aware that a lot of regs who haven't had the opportunity to attend a taser course will be somewhat put out.

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Some interesting drills in the picture there...

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On a serious note it will be difficult for the NPCC to justify treating special constables less favourably than regular officers, and if they do hopefully ASCO will prove its worth by challenging it under these regulations.

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1 hour ago, Sceptre said:

Some interesting drills in the picture there...

main-qimg-25ede0082b9ff19bf39fccc527d47b

On a serious note it will be difficult for the NPCC to justify treating special constables less favourably than regular officers, and if they do hopefully ASCO will prove its worth by challenging it under these regulations.

That did make me laugh! 

Although there are occasions where you would need to think about your probe placement and would cant the taser.

As someone who has been trained in Taser for some time now I wish we would just drop the hysteria around it. It’s a good piece of kit in the right circumstances and is the lowest use of force available in terms of the medical implications. Let’s just have an adult discussion about it and make it a normal piece of kit. 

We say it time and time again, specials and regulars are trusted with a baton and spray from day 1, a baton is far far more dangerous in comparison.

Hopefully this will get sorted out sooner rather than later.

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Some interesting drills in the picture there...
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On a serious note it will be difficult for the NPCC to justify treating special constables less favourably than regular officers, and if they do hopefully ASCO will prove its worth by challenging it under these regulations.
It's actually the right thing to do in the circumstances.

You cant the taser to ensure both probes hit, and the red dot, which indicates for the top probe, needs to be at the head end; so if you're head on to a prone subject, you turn the taser upside down, or as close to it as you can get.

Considering the subject appears to have been tasered in the back, it would suggest he had been tasered from the position they're currently in.

That being said, and on the actual topic at hand, I can't understand all this hysteria about a little plastic toy gun. Then again, I don't understand all this nonsense about real guns either; they're just another piece of kit. Outside of dealing with specialist situations, they don't take much skill or experience to use effectively.

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