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cookyy2k

Victoria Police to investigate after pensioner pinned down, pepper sprayed

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Victoria Police has said a group of officers filmed pinning and hosing down a Melbourne disability pensioner "clearly need to be called into account".

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I think (as usual) there is plenty being missed out here, though the officers' comments on the video certainly don't help them.

The news reporter in the video is of course trying to stir the pot as usual, saying that because only 1 in 10 complaints against police are upheld therefore there needs to be a new system. Do they not grasp how many nonsense complaints come in? 

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What was the need to strike his legs several times while he was being held down on the floor.... ??

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52 minutes ago, Chaos said:

What was the need to strike his legs several times while he was being held down on the floor.... ??

None of us know. We can't see what he's doing at the head end, whether he's carrying anything or What preceded this short edited clip.

My version of professional courtesy is that i I try not to castigate colleagues on minimal information.

 

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None of us know. We can't see what he's doing at the head end, whether he's carrying anything or What preceded this short edited clip.
My version of professional courtesy is that i I try not to castigate colleagues on minimal information.
 
I think from the clip, the following artical and the comments by the commissioner , you can make reasonable assumptions that the male did not have anything in his hands.

6 officers dragged a male out from his home address, who yes was putting up resistance, he was then pinned / detained on the floor and sprayed...

What I don't get it why a Barton needed to be drawn and struck on his legs several times... His legs were not kicking out.. he was on the floor at the time and he was restrained...

I guess that would be for that officer to justify and the other officers can plead ignorance saying they didn't see it...

What every you might think, it's been portrayed by the media as un justified / un reasonable force and the Australian public I guess will see it as such.

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22 minutes ago, Chaos said:

What I don't get it why a Barton needed to be drawn and struck on his legs several times... His legs were not kicking out.. he was on the floor at the time and he was restrained...

Without going into operational info there is a technique taught over here for an uncooperative person on the ground that would involve the baton to gain compliance.

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1 hour ago, Chaos said:

I think from the clip, the following artical and the comments by the commissioner , you can make reasonable assumptions that the male did not have anything in his hands.

6 officers dragged a male out from his home address, who yes was putting up resistance, he was then pinned / detained on the floor and sprayed...

What I don't get it why a Barton needed to be drawn and struck on his legs several times... His legs were not kicking out.. he was on the floor at the time and he was restrained...

I guess that would be for that officer to justify and the other officers can plead ignorance saying they didn't see it...

What every you might think, it's been portrayed by the media as un justified / un reasonable force and the Australian public I guess will see it as such.

I've stamped on someone's ankle to get them to let go of my colleagues duty belt who was on the floor with him and it was pulling him into the suspect. That probably looked odd as well.

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6 hours ago, MerseyLLB said:

None of us know. We can't see what he's doing at the head end, whether he's carrying anything or What preceded this short edited clip.

My version of professional courtesy is that i I try not to castigate colleagues on minimal information.

 

For me, this. 

However heavily edited, most of what I see of Oz cops comes across as professional and far, far more courteous than even us here in the UK. It seems to take a lot to rile them. 

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Four officers suspended by Victoria Police over alleged excessive force

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Three of the six officers have been suspended over this incident pending the full investigation.

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