Fedster + 1,307 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Public helped detain suspect after he attacked superintendent. Ayoub Benhammwu A drug dealer who knocked out a temporary chief superintendent has been jailed for five years. Ayoub Benhammwu, 22, of Lisson Grove, north London, attacked T/Det Chief Supt Raffaele D’Orsi, in August 2016. The officer and PC Paul Maher had been patrolling near Ladbroke Grove, west London, when they saw Benhammwu, who had arrived at the scene on a moped, acting suspiciously looking into an apartment window. After being challenged, the suspect made off from the officers on foot and was followed by T/Det Chief Supt D'Orsi on foot and by moped, whilst PC Maher followed in a vehicle. Benhammwu was tackled by T/Det Chief Supt D'Orsi, but the drug dealer kicked the officer three times, dislocating his shoulder and knocking him unconscious. Benhammwu was detained by PC Maher and members of the public. A quantity of herbal cannabis along with cannabis resin was found, on the suspect. He was found guilty of assault occasioning actual bodily harm (ABH) and two counts of possession with intent to supply cannabis. Temporary Detective Chief Superintendent Raffaele D'Orsi, the acting borough commander of Kensington and Chelsea, said: "I would like to thank those members of the community, local colleagues and specialist trained firearms officers who came to my colleague's aid when I was kicked unconscious during this attack. "Policing is very much about working with communities to reduce harm. I know that had it not been for the help of members of the Notting Hill community, PC Maher might not have detained Benhammwu, a moped enabled violent drug dealer. "We are also very grateful for those public witnesses who came forward to give evidence of the attack that I was subjected to; without their help, we would not have been able to secure this conviction today." Benhammwu was sentenced to a total of five years and four months, for which he must serve a minimum of two years and four months. View On Police Oracle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member of Public + 206 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Bet he'll only do the 'minimum' of 2 years 4 months, and I wouldn't even be surprised if that gets reduced on appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growley + 2,436 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Dislocating a shoulder is only ABH now!? Madness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor James 9 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) On 19/03/2018 at 19:59, Growley said: Dislocating a shoulder is only ABH now!? Madness. Hi growley i think it’s a bit of a heavy sentence for AbH and a bit of cannibis, he certainly didn’t get anything near the minimum sentence. I’m guessing he had previous. Ive seen you tube vids of members of the public really doing the police in and getting a couple of weeks time served if that, thought to be fair they were ordinary pc s and pcso s in vid not a chief superintendent like in this case, maybe that also had a bearing on the sentence. Edited March 21, 2018 by Conor James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrateShrike + 1,850 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Conor James said: Hi growley i think it’s a bit of a heavy sentence for AbH and a bit of cannibis, he certainly didn’t get anything near the minimum sentence. I’m guessing he had previous. Ive seen you tube vids of mebers of the public really doing the police in and getting a couple of weeks time served if that, thought to be fair they were ordinary pc s of pcso s in vid not a chief superintendent like in this case, maybe that also had a bearing on the sentence. What Growley is highlighting is that the level of injury would likely be serious enough to warrant a charge of GBH. There are several reasons why ABH was charged as opposed to GBH (some of which could be ethical and based on good reasoning) but there are often CPS charging decisions that appear absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParochialYokal 1,119 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I don’t know why people get so emotive about the charge.He got five years, which I think is a reasonable sentence. Personally, I’m more surprised that a Borough Commander actually caught up with him... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazRat 762 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I’m more surprised that the borough commander left the office. Not enough of that goes on IMHO. All credit to him for getting stuck in. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Lima + 117 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Wouldn't happen here. I don't even know who my super is. I've never met him.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazRat 762 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Mines an experienced keyboard warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB11 + 224 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Well just to balance things out our Super regularly goes round the offices and stops everyone what they're doing to give a talk about what's currently happening and then he hangs around and invites people to talk to him and tell it how it really is. Many positive changes have happened from these frank chats he welcomes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growley + 2,436 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I don't blame senior officers for not doing routine policing, outside of exingent circumstances, it's not their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT + 1,194 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 13 hours ago, DB11 said: Well just to balance things out our Super regularly goes round the offices and stops everyone what they're doing to give a talk about what's currently happening and then he hangs around and invites people to talk to him and tell it how it really is. Many positive changes have happened from these frank chats he welcomes We had a super like that. It's jarring when it happens, which it shouldn't be. It should be standard. I haven't seen our chief inspector in months, probably before Christmas. Despite working in the same building. I don't expect the boss to be kicking in doors or making arrests, but maybe pop to briefing now and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazRat 762 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, Growley said: I don't blame senior officers for not doing routine policing, outside of exingent circumstances, it's not their job. But they make a lot of decisions that affect your job. I’m still waiting for my Supt. and Ch. Supt to venture out. I’m asked to justify activities and operation results without them having any concept of the processes involved. Edited March 23, 2018 by HazRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker 817 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I've seen our Super on duty a couple of times, worked NTE at least once that I know of. Also seen the CC in a briefing, and I'm told he does go out semi-regularly. I know my grandfather used to go out a fair bit, but that was the 1970s, so a different world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck + 293 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 The Cheshire CC (few back) came out on NTE on NYE once, think he regretted it when he landed and realised that the wheel had fallen off and we were really overstretched so G1s were going unanswered. Think it hit him when comms shouted up "HQ01 can you make a grade 1 for us, we've got no divisional staff left and you're showing in the area?" I'd have loved to have seen the look on his and his staff officer's faces when that call was made. To be fair they did attend and helped out until a patrol was freed up, so fair play to him/them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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