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New Channel 4 show features celebrities training to become Special Constables out on the mean streets

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Hyphen

Not happy with this idea at all. It’ll be viewed as a bit of a joke, particularly if it is a channel 4 celebrity thing. It’ll just end up creating a circus and I don’t really believe that these celebs will be doing the real job nor will it be shown in that way. 

It’s nice in a way to try and highlight policing but I just can’t see it going well. 

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Mac7

When I first heard about this I thought it was a joke. It will make a mock of the value that specials bring to policing. The celebs motivation for become a special will be money and raising their profile again, exactly what the role of a special isn’t.

The only positive (and I mean that in the slimmest of terms) is that it may highlight the pressures, stresses officers are under and how savage the cuts really are.

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MindTheGap
35 minutes ago, Mac7 said:

When I first heard about this I thought it was a joke. It will make a mock of the value that specials bring to policing. The celebs motivation for become a special will be money and raising their profile again, exactly what the role of a special isn’t.

 

Like many specials are in it for joining the regular constabulary (and not necessarily trying before they buy, but to almost guarantee they get the solid wage etc).

 

I agree with you, but it may be interesting to see how the celebs handle stuff and if they are sworn in (bet they're not, do the training then shadow an actual officer) if they get any IOPC complaints!

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Indiana Jones

I'm speechless.

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Zulu 22

It is Channel 4 after all. Not the finest of channels, they are more interested in controversy than sense and fact.  I cannot see any force that would be stupid enough to entertain it. Any officer would be in his rights to refuse to work with such people.

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Beaker

I'm in 2 minds on this. It COULD at least give the general public an idea how things are these days, and that SCs don't just wander round looking pretty like a lot of folks think they do. However I'm also dubious that C4 won't just chuck Keith Lemon in a uniform, and see what chaos ensues.

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PGB

I think it’s only airing for 4 episodes so not sure how much training or work they will actually get done. Would be interesting to know the timeframes they have to spend training and policing.

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Ironic

So they are being paid a salary to volunteer? Ultimately C4 have approached them, I very much doubt they have offered to do it out of the kindness of their hearts. :lol: They will be washed up Z-list celebrities who appeared on Big Brother 10 years ago or something who need exposure.

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Although, the wording implies its a 'taster' rather than the real thing. Perhaps C4 have fronted the cost of their training to mimic the same training, but they are not actually specials but they treat it as an enhanced ride-along sort of thing? It would have made more sense to do the documentary with 4 members of the public rather than celebrities, but I really am struggling to see how any police force would waste training time, for 4 episodes of a documentary, to attest 4 z-list celebrities who in all likelihood won't be committed and it is asking for trouble.

If they do it properly then it could be a good insight (with them shadowing PC's/SC's), but the flipside is if they are genuinely going to attest as specials then I doubt they will keep up the commitment and this will become a giant farce and It seems like a giant conflict of interest if that is the case.

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Hyphen

I think that’s it, if it’s done seriously and for the right reasons then fair enough. 

What annoys me more generally is policing, whether as a PC or Special is a serious and professional role. It’s not something to be made a gimmick out of or some novelty reality show.

 

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Beaker



force would waste training time, for 4 episodes of a documentary,


The sensible thought here is that C4'is paying enough money to cover the costs for an entire SC intake on top of the documentary.

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Zulu 22

C4 only produce rubbish for sensationalism. They are nit interested in Policing just some form of cheap entertainment. Policing is not entertainment.

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Indiana Jones
6 hours ago, Ironic said:

So they are being paid a salary to volunteer?

As I recall, there was a force about 18 months ago who tried to have paid SCs under some sort of scheme (I think maybe an apprenticeship or something?). That all fell apart when they realised that they couldn't resolve the mechanism for doing so.

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James255
9 hours ago, Zulu 22 said:

It is Channel 4 after all. Not the finest of channels, they are more interested in controversy than sense and fact.  I cannot see any force that would be stupid enough to entertain it. Any officer would be in his rights to refuse to work with such people.

No, Channel 4 often make excellent documentaries actually,  especially police ones. 24 Hours in Police Custody, 999 What's Your Emergency, Coppers (broadcast about 5 years ago) are all good quality programs. They always show the difficultie of policing and the pressures, at the same time as including a little humour.

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