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Recruitment campaign is about to open.

Up to 12 new forces could take on direct entry personnel later this year.

New recruitment windows for both superintendents and inspectors with no previous policing experience are due to open on Monday.

Forces being involved for the first time include Dyfed Powys, who hope to take on officers at both ranks, and Cumbria, Devon and Cornwall, Lincolnshire, Norfolk, Nottinghamshire and South Yorkshire, who are all looking for inspectors under the scheme for the first time.

Four others – Avon and Somerset, Hertfordshire, North Wales and Northumbria - have tried to recruit direct entrants in previous rounds but have been unsuccessful. They are all looking for inspectors.

West Midlands Police, recruiting again this year, hired through the scheme last year but their one recruit deferred their start date to 2018.

Asked why Lincolnshire Police is participating for the first time this year, Assistant Chief Officer Andrew White said: “As a small force Lincolnshire has limited capacity to accommodate schemes of this type but at this time chief officers felt that a single direct entrant would be a useful addition to our management cadre. 

“We look forward to receiving a strong field of applicants that wish to work in this fine county and force.”

Norfolk Constabulary's Deputy Chief Constable Nick Dean said: “This programme allows us to bring whole new ways of thinking and innovation into policing.

“We’re looking for an exceptional candidate who has experience working in another sector so they can bring a different perspective into the service. 

“It is a hugely rewarding career that allows you to lead a team of highly skilled officers and police staff to protect the public and prevent crime.”

A spokesman for Cumbria Constabulary confirmed the force is also looking for just one direct entrant.

The advent of direct entry inspectors ended the forerunner fast track scheme, whose last cohort will graduate in the coming weeks.

All those applying for direct entry roles in 2018 will be required to have degrees.

Forces recruiting direct entry superintendents in 2018: Avon & Somerset, Dyfed Powys, Essex, GMP, Hertfordshire, West Yorkshire

 

Forces recruiting direct entry inspectors in 2018: Cumbria, Devon & Cornwall, Dyfed Powys, Essex, Gloucestershire, GMP, Lincolnshire, Norfolk, North Wales,Northumbria, Nottinghamshire, South Yorkshire, Suffolk, Thames Valley, West Midlands, West Yorkshire

 

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Talent from within should be promoted first (especially to Inspector level) and then the gaps filled with DE applicants. I support the DE to superintendent level but struggle with it at Inspector level.

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We are rehashing previous topics. I am totally against D.E.  There is no substitute for experience and it is not a thing you can teach. Can you ever empathise or  know what it is like for an officer to be assaulted and suffered serious injury unless you have experienced something similar.

Can you ever know what it is like to be under staffed and swimming uphill against a strong tide unless you have been in that position?

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10 minutes ago, Zulu 22 said:

 

Can you ever know what it is like to be under staffed and swimming uphill against a strong tide unless you have been in that position?

Yes of course you can, because the police are not the only profession to experience that. The article does state that they are looking an exceptional candidates. So perhaps that's one of the areas of expertise they are looking for?

What if a DE Supt. came into a force with a background in leadership in a profession that is experiencing severe cuts, low staff morale, retention issues etc... and has a proven track record in improving those things for staff and the organisation as a whole? If they could transfer that ability and experience, would it really matter if they'd been spat at or punched in their previous role?

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Yes of course you can, because the police are not the only profession to experience that. The article does state that they are looking an exceptional candidates. So perhaps that's one of the areas of expertise they are looking for?
What if a DE Supt. came into a force with a background in leadership in a profession that is experiencing severe cuts, low staff morale, retention issues etc... and has a proven track record in improving those things for staff and the organisation as a whole? If they could transfer that ability and experience, would it really matter if they'd been spat at or punched in their previous role?

You're fighting a losing battle trying to convince some that such schemes have merit. You will be hit with the old 'what does an ex Tesco manager know about policing' argument.
Personally I am waiting to see the success or failure of the scheme. It is too young a scheme to be able to assess. Mindful that plenty are waiting for the first DE officer to make a mistake so they attack like a pack of hounds.
Reminds of the same attitude towards women Sgts and inspectors when they were few and far between. Not that such attitudes have completely gone though as I heard the mysogonistic comments about a recently promoted Supt by a late service PC and his retired friend.

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2 hours ago, junior_7178 said:

Yes of course you can, because the poThoseare not the only professiosafex perience that. The article doe s state that they are looking an exceptional candidates. So perhaps that's one of the areas of expertise they are looking for?

What if a DE Supt. came into a force with a background in leadership in a profession that is experiencing severe cuts, low staff morale, retention issues etc... and has a proven track record in improving those things for staff and the organisation as a whole? If they could transfer that ability and experience, would it really matter if they'd been spat at or punched in their previous role?

And how many of those will have been regular assaulted and put their lives on the line to keep the publuc safe. 

As foir the remarks about the attitude towards women Sergeants and Inspectors, that is nonsense. This would have no credibility as they had the experience of Policing the hard way and fully deserved their rank. We should give them credit.

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I’ve supported DE supts since the scheme was first rolled out. The recruitment process is rigorous and very few that apply make it to appointment, so I have faith that those not suitable are weeded out. People who have/are operating at an equivalent level in the private sector most definitely have transferable skills into the police. After all it works the other way round. My only problem with the DE supt scheme is the fact that they are paid £60k+ right from the off. I would like to see the pay staggered as they move through their rotations. I’ve been at the COP and seen the DE supts in the first part of their training, some of which is similar to IPLDP. Compare that to a student officer who is doing the same on 19k.

 

Where I don’t agree with DE is at Inspector level. For someone to be parachuted in at that level is dangerous. It will take years to get operationally competent in the role and during that time they will have to be supervised and mentored by officers who will have passed their exams but can’t get a acting spot for love nor money. What will they actually be contributing? It’s a very costly experiment.

 

The police as an employer should be looking inwards on itself and developing talent already in the force. The development and promotion process within the police is very backward compared to that of the private sector.