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Mohibur Rahman was sentenced to 16 years in jail this year for wounding two restaurant workers.

Mohibur Rahman

Durham Constabulary failed to respond in time to phone calls from a man hours before he launched a frenzied knife attack on two restaurant workers because it did not have the resources, a police watchdog has said.

Mohibur Rahman inflicted serious injuries on two restaurant workers in a ‘horrific’ knife attack Darlington on July 21, 2016.

Rahman, 43, was given a 16-year sentence after pleading guilty to wounding at Teesside Crown Court on February 7 this year.

He had made four 999 calls to Durham Constabulary and spent several hours in detention at Darlington custody suite for possession of a controlled substance in the 43 hours leading up to the attack.  During this period, there was also a non-emergency 101 call from his landlady reporting criminal damage.

He was on bail for grooming girls in Tyneside at the time. 

Rahman had called the police describing increasingly violent hallucinations, saying there were about 50 dead bodies inside his house, he could see spirits and a gun gang were after him.

In his final 999 call he claimed he could see people with guns, which would have meant officers should have attended within one hour. 

But Sheila Reay, a priority dispatch centre supervisor at Durham Constabulary, told the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) the target for a priority dispatch is missed regularly "by which I mean during every shift".

Another call centre handler told the IPCC very few priority jobs  met the arrival target of one hour ‘due to a lack of officers and she was aware of some priority incidents not attended to for three to five hours. 

She said over 20 outstanding incidents used to be a busy day for the Darlington area but now under 30 was a good day. The call handler explained when there are several priority incidents waiting for officers to attend, part of her role, as a dispatcher, is to decide which priority incident to send officers to first, effectively "prioritising between the priorities”.

Durham Constabulary referred the case to the IPCC but the investigator found none of the police call handling staff or police officers involved had a case to answer for misconduct.

“Although Durham Constabulary did not send officers to Rahman’s address within their one hour target time in response to his final 999 call, in the investigator’s opinion, this was as a result of a lack of resources rather than any individual failure to follow policy,” the IPCC report stated.

IPCC Operations Manager Lauren Collins said:“I’d like to offer our sympathies to everyone affected by this horrific attack on innocent people and to reassure the families involved and the public that we carried out a very thorough and detailed investigation.

“Our investigators examined all of Durham Constabulary’s contact with Mohibur Rahman in the days prior to his attack. We reviewed the content of the calls made by him and his landlady and the CCTV footage from the custody suite. We also interviewed police officers and staff, and considered whether local and national policies were complied with.

“Although there were no identifiable conduct issues, we have identified learning for Durham’s control room staff about how they handle calls concerning firearms. We have also reiterated the importance of accurately recording information received from callers and accurately recording actions taken as a result of those calls.”

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[Hyphen + 693]

I’ve actually read the IPCC report on this. It was quite sobering in the sense that the sequence of events weren’t really out of the ordinary on a typical response shift situation.

Sad for the victims ultimately but it is hard to predict that this would have happened.

The issue is up and down the country there just aren’t the resources anymore to respond to everything.

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3 minutes ago, Hyphen said:

 

I’ve actually read the IPCC report on this. It was quite sobering in the sense that the sequence of events weren’t really out of the ordinary on a typical response shift situation.

Sad for the victims ultimately but it is hard to predict that this would have happened.

The issue is up and down the country there just aren’t the resources anymore to respond to everything.

 

Well no doubt the Home Secretary would say the Police Chiefs tell her they have the resources they need. REALLY

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Actually the police have the resources they need to do the job. The government said so. So the IPCC must be wrong. Which they can't be. 

So. Error 404. Logic and honesty not found 

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This is just shocking did the Home Office not publish a report recently where they stated there are now more police officers per hundred people compared to the 60’s?

 

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Here we go, looks like we are all wrong and actually we have more officers than ever.

More police officers per head now than fifty years ago, figures show 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/23/police-officers-per-head-now-fifty-years-ago-figures-show/amp/

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So Chief Constables telling the Home Secretary that they have enough resources are either ill informed, idiots or don't want to rock the boat as their pension is just around the corner.

Here's a thought. Crime may have gone digital and resources have been moved accordingly (google Fraud And Linked Crime ONline - "Falcon" for one example of a tech based squad in the Met), but we still need officers on the front line to respond to other calls for service. The population grows everyday and the normal social problems still need dealing with. From burglary in progress to mental health to disorder, they still need a uniformed first responder response.

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Offences against persons crime is continuing to grow, not only this but these crimes require urgent assistance. Priority 1. Saving life and limb. Sorry but an officer in a suit detecting cyber crime isn't much help to the person who is being threatened with a knife; is having his face smashed in or acid thrown at him. They also do not provide any real deterrent.

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Worryingly it is me who gave you a like. Some Chiefs have spoken but only a handful. Perhaps the others are hankering after a knighthood. One of my old arguement was, "You can have as many officers in departments, as many officers in Come,  and all are superfluous if you have nobody on the streets to deal with calls"  I got the greatest satisfaction in Uniform front line, it beat all the other specialists depth I worked in.

If there was a PC requires assistance call everyone knew that they had to beat me to respond.

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41 minutes ago, Zulu 22 said:

You can have as many officers in departments, as many officers in Come,  and all are superfluous if you have nobody on the streets to deal with calls

How true, strange some senior officers and all government ministers don't understand such a simple concept

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26 minutes ago, Cathedral Bobby said:

How true, strange some senior officers and all government ministers don't understand such a simple concept

More and more chiefs have been speaking out over the last couple of months, even the NPCC are saying there needs to be an increase in funding for normal policing. 

Oh and here's a relevant story published today:

Louise Haigh (Shadow policing minister) constantly raises this issue in parliament as well as the "Protect the protectors" campaign.

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Could they inform the Government that the loss of numbers would mean that they had to cut out diplomatic protection so that they would all have to make their own way to meetings without any escort.  They would then find the money even if it meant that the armed Forces or MI5/6 had to provide the escorts.

Because of the cuts I believe that they would have to recruit, in the region of, 20,000 officers just to alleviate the situation. OPf course we all know that it would take many years to recruit such a number.   

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The service is crippled and has badly been let down by the leadership. It is only the last six months or so there has been any murmuring by chiefs. What happened in Durham is now a fairly frequent occurrence, fortunately most end up being near misses.

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Could they inform the Government that the loss of numbers would mean that they had to cut out diplomatic protection so that they would all have to make their own way to meetings without any escort.  They would then find the money even if it meant that the armed Forces or MI5/6 had to provide the escorts.
Because of the cuts I believe that they would have to recruit, in the region of, 20,000 officers just to alleviate the situation. OPf course we all know that it would take many years to recruit such a number.   

I have suggested this very same approach a number of times at work.

Make them feel the cuts.

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I really think the government has got the nation all hooked and concentrating on CT. So long as they can tell the public they are putting more resources into this area the public won't kick up much of a stink. And this is what has happened. They have people convinced because they have prioritised spending on CT and safeguarding, a message they constantly play out, the public are ok with it. CT serves the government agenda for cuts because it stops people looking at other areas, keeping the focus on CT keeps other concerns out of the public's mind.

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Just do what other forces have done, change the priority response time to two hours instead