mike88 + 257 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) Turns quite violent, very small number of officers considering the size of the crowd. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-32864017 Edited May 25, 2015 by mike88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash 32 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Good result all round I imagine. At least most kept dancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseyLLB 8,426 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 And the point of police attendance? they ended up just being attacked and limply standing there. get more cops. Form arrest teams. Start dealing with this robustly - this was a riot the moment the crowd started chasing and attacking the police as they withdrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie 2,084 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) They ended up calling in resources from across the region to clear it including closing the A1 as the revellers all just rushed towards the A1 with quite a few in a drink/drug fuelled state doing all sorts of things trying to get public to stop and give them a lift to evade Police capture. http://thelincolnite.co.uk/2015/05/police-shut-down-illegal-rave-at-twyford-woods-in-lincolnshire/ Edited May 25, 2015 by Burnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash 32 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 They ended up calling in resources from across the region to clear it including closing the A1 as the revellers all just rushed towards the A1 with quite a few in a drink/drug fuelled state doing all sorts of things trying to get public to stop and give them a lift to evade Police capture. Well thats partying for you, especially "illegal" parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseyLLB 8,426 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 It's a rave...there is legislation against raves...therefore it IS illegal. Not 'illegal'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash 32 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 It's a rave...there is legislation against raves...therefore it IS illegal. Not 'illegal'. Yes, you are correct, there is legislation against raves. The government keeping us safe again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie 2,084 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) Dash, what you don't seem to realise is that there IS a legal way to have a rave. There was one a few miles down the road from this one on the same night at Swinderby. No Police presence was required because it was arranged safely and legally. Edited May 25, 2015 by Burnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy + 74 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Nasty crowd. Side note, How heavy are those shields? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash 32 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Dash, what you don't seem to realise is that there IS a legal way to have a rave. I do find it hard to realise, but that what makes one different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyCop + 178 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 And the point of police attendance? they ended up just being attacked and limply standing there. get more cops. Form arrest teams. Start dealing with this robustly - this was a riot the moment the crowd started chasing and attacking the police as they withdrew. I feel your frustration Mersey they should have went in with more officers and took a firmer stance. However I can tell you that they would struggle to get more officers than what the already had, in that neck of the woods. Bit of non job by going in and exposing themselves to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie 2,084 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) Side note, How heavy are those shields? Not that heavy - Pretty much just Acrylic Plastic with hollow Aluminium to create the grab handles. Edited May 25, 2015 by Burnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeRam + 81 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Some brilliant evidence to support prosecution of a handful of these ravers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT + 1,194 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 The point of our attendance is mainly because our pcc gets stuck from important people when we can't deal with raves. Leading to a 'need' For us to deal with it, regardless of the actual ability to do so safely. Thankfully our management still recognise that the handful of us available in the middle of the night are not enough to get this done. But I'm waiting for the pressure of pcc to overrule 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades + 1,693 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) There were some really rubbish shield strikes in these videos - ineffective strikes, whether with a shield, baton, fist, don't do the job and look bad because you have to use more of them than if you just did one effective strike. There were a number of hits with the flat of the shield, which is never going to work (and I'm talking about whne subjects were trying to grab for shields etc, rather than the lower level obstructive behaviour), and a number where for some inexplicable reason officers were raising the shield OVER the head of the subject. Perhaps the adrenaline, rather than a training issue? With a proper strike from an intermediate shield nobody should expect to be walking away from the line with less than a noticeable limp! I'm surprised that with the lack of officers they didn't choose to use the carriers to reinforce the line at an early stage - they might have been very effective at moving people back when combined with the officers they had. (PS, I'm making observations from the comfort of my sofa, it's not a criticism of individual officers who are clearly in a pretty rubbish situation there) Edited May 25, 2015 by Hades 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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