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JulietAlpha1

Transfer applications to more than one force

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JulietAlpha1

I'm considering transferring from the Met back up North and I was wondering if anyone knew whether you can apply to more than one force at the same time? I've struggled finding anything on the internet about it.

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Clear Left!

Yeah I'm sure you can, considering that you don't have to inform your current force until you receive a final offer, then it's only a months notice! There wouldn't be any issues in sitting the boards or doing the applications...

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Policey_Man

My view was the same.... I think the one application at a time for new constables is to ensure nobody gets an unfair advantage at the SEARCH assessment centre.

And, given that they are internal processes only for the force concerned and not run externally, like SEARCH, I doubt the other forces would know if you applied to multiple forces anyway.

But as always, it would be best to get an official answer from the force(s) concerned. I'm sure it wouldn't be held against you if you asked the question.

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HazRat
1 hour ago, Clear Left! said:

Yeah I'm sure you can, considering that you don't have to inform your current force until you receive a final offer, then it's only a months notice! There wouldn't be any issues in sitting the boards or doing the applications...

Not quite true, some forces insist upon you getting a write up from a second line manager.  It put me off applying for a job recently.

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HazRat
1 hour ago, Clear Left! said:

Yeah I'm sure you can, considering that you don't have to inform your current force until you receive a final offer, then it's only a months notice! There wouldn't be any issues in sitting the boards or doing the applications...

Not quite true, some forces insist upon you getting a write up from a second line manager.  It put me off applying for a job recently.

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MerseyLLB
1 hour ago, HazRat said:

Not quite true, some forces insist upon you getting a write up from a second line manager.  It put me off applying for a job recently.

My Area Commander (Ch Supt) formed part of my transfer app for Kent.

Which whilst I was waiting for the go ahead meant all my chances of alternative postings in my old.force were blown to smithereens!

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JulietAlpha1

They haven't asked for anything like from me. Just my last 2 PDR's fortunately.

As you say, @MerseyLLB, it can make things very awkward with your current force and it stunts any progression during your application and if you don't get in, everyone knows you tried to leave. It shouldn't have a bearing but it does.

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Policey_Man

Whereas in my case, I was able to get past the interview stage to the offer stage before having to tell anyone, as post-interview, references were required for successful candidates.

So I guess a lot of this has to do with the forces involved and how much you're willing to disclose to your current management structure. Whilst interesting, none of this is really helping with the original question though...

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Policey_Man
2 hours ago, JulietAlpha1 said:

They haven't asked for anything like from me. Just my last 2 PDR's fortunately.

As you say, @MerseyLLB, it can make things very awkward with your current force and it stunts any progression during your application and if you don't get in, everyone knows you tried to leave. It shouldn't have a bearing but it does.

The police is such a funny place... I agree with what you say entirely. But why punish people who want to leave or progress? Surely if people are trying to leave, it might be worth supervision saying, 'ah, they want to develop and progress in their career' or 'they aren't happy' and then perhaps try and do something about it?..... We lose too many good people as a result of poor management.

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HazRat
5 hours ago, Policey_Man said:

The police is such a funny place... I agree with what you say entirely. But why punish people who want to leave or progress? Surely if people are trying to leave, it might be worth supervision saying, 'ah, they want to develop and progress in their career' or 'they aren't happy' and then perhaps try and do something about it?..... We lose too many good people as a result of poor management.

Because some see it as a lack of commitment to that force. They're also reluctant to invest in someone who is going. So they shrewd officer will say nothing until they have to.

I'm applying to my local county force for promotion. I've told my boss, but didn't have to. I've also done pretty much every course so I wasn't bothered about how it would go down and limiting my future course collecting. Fortunately he's supportive of the application.

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Nile
I'm considering transferring from the Met back up North and I was wondering if anyone knew whether you can apply to more than one force at the same time? I've struggled finding anything on the internet about it.

I applied to transfer from the MPS to GMP and WYP a few years back. GMP first, then a few weeks later WYP advertised. Got both jobs. Never any problem with it.


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4 hours ago, Nile said:

I applied to transfer from the MPS to GMP and WYP a few years back. GMP first, then a few weeks later WYP advertised. Got both jobs. Never any problem with it.

Which one did you take and why?

How did you find life in the counties compared to the Met?

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Which one did you take and why?
How did you find life in the counties compared to the Met?

My situation may be different than yours. I was in a specialist post as a DS. It was a long time ago, 2005. All forces in the country have changed over the past few years owing to funding, or lack of. These have been difficult times for all. Think about where you want to live- your career aspirations - and prepare yourself for a big culture shock. I chose WYP due to my specialisation and also personal reasons. I have since worked with GMP in my role and find them slightly larger and possibly a bit more ' MPS ' like. Both are large busy forces. PS dont let them hear you call them counties! . They are both Metropolitan forces in their own right..


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8 hours ago, HazRat said:

Because some see it as a lack of commitment to that force. They're also reluctant to invest in someone who is going. So they shrewd officer will say nothing until they have to.

I understand that. But that perception from those who see it as a lack of commitment isn't always right - in fact it's often wrong. I know lots of people who would be happy to stay in various roles and with the same force, if they were treated better, if they were looked after, if they were developed and offered new opportunities.... We're losing people from force to force and from the service as a whole because that isn't happening. We need to invest in people and we need better people management. But again, that's going off topic...

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