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Policeman123

failed vetting before. what will happen when I try again

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Policeman123

Hello all,

 

I applied for South Yorkshire last year. Passed everything but vetting.

Failed for not declaring a fpn for a exhaust problem £50 which I complelty forgot about

And I had a discliplnary ( management advice)  which was a bit of a strange one... 

Had a complaint from a detainee, he was drifting around roundabouts at a busy time on a busy road, I stayed behind him and flashed my lights, from this I got a disciplinary for a traffic irregularity, which I had some advice from management, this advice was very wishy washy, the management who was a regular inspector from a neighbouring force emailed and just said me flashing my lights was below the standards they have... 

my special inspector and my special sergeant heard nothing about this and knew nothing at all, which they were not happy about because they should be the ones giving out The advice etc. Or at least be told about it.

 

I did not realise that email that the inspector sent me Was The disciplinary, because I didn't declare that SYP said I wasn't honest so as a result I failed.

 

I have now applied for another force, going really well and now at The stage of vetting again. I've declared it all but bricking it.. 

Any help or reassurance please??

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Policey_Man

Unfortunately mate, every force is different. You can fail with some forces and then pass with others, as they all have different standards.

You just need to declare everything that you can and be open and honest with them.

I'm very surprised that management advice is included as a disciplinary, as I wouldn't have included that.

At least they told you what the reasons were, which isn't always the case! How did you manage to find that out?

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SammyB

Policeman123,

Specifically what was the exhaust problem that resulted in the FPN? The issue here will be that it wasn't declared, however I appreciate that you're saying you forgot. If I remember the form correctly, it specifically asks if you have received any FPNs, traffic or otherwise.

If I've interpreted your post correctly, you were on duty in the capacity of a SC when you encountered someone driving like a Burke? If so, I am wondering why you didn't stop him and deal with the matter, as opposed to just flashing your lights etc?

Also, how did that lead to you getting management advice?

I would question the authenticity of it being classed as a formal disciplinary process but, in any case, my advice to you would be to declare anything that may be relevant. Let them decide if it's relevant or not. By the sounds of this you have declared it all so, hopefully, you will be fine.

Let us know how you get on

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Policey_Man
1 minute ago, SammyB said:

I would question the authenticity of it being classed as a formal disciplinary process but, in any case, my advice to you would be to declare anything that may be relevant. Let them decide if it's relevant or not. By the sounds of this you have declared it all so, hopefully, you will be fine.

Let us know how you get on emoji4.png

Yeah, but even being a special for say 12 months, you could get numerous e-mails with advice and guidance on from supervisors, let alone tellings off.... Sounds like a bit of a quandary to me!

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Policeman123

I was off duty at The time. My ex partner called the police and I just stayed behind the vehicle .

the fpn was a few years back and I just complelty didn't remember until they told me about it.

 

I'm an idiot I know...

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Posh

To be honest I would appeal the decision. That email sounds like a load of rubbish, and you need to query what their definition of discipline is. The whole point of management action is a locally recorded slap on the back of the hand that goes nowhere to identify something that you're doing wrong and prevent it from becoming formal if you take the advice.

I recall some forms get you to declare if you have previously failed vetting so it may be worth appealing anyway?

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