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  1. Maybe to get a reaction worthy of internet 'likes' and the associated revenue streams they bring. But I'm old and cynical.
    8 points
  2. What if they don't want to identify as a cow at all? The vehicle didn't look like it was going very fast, I would have thought he'd have been leathering it. Anyway, this thread is rapidly heading toward the locker room material, I'd steak my reputation on it.
    7 points
  3. We can all have differing opinions but, in the end of the day we are all, or have been part of a big family. May I wish everyone as Merry a Christmas as far as is possible. All please stay safe and stay well and let us all hope for a better 2021. 🎅🎅🎅🎅🎅🎅
    7 points
  4. Oh it is! In the force I served in we had an officer sacked for stealing from the charity box in 1983. Then another in the 90s for stealing from a house they attended. By the 2000s dishonesty doubled as two officers were sacked in that decade, although one was for a shoplifting off duty. Where will it all end?
    7 points
  5. I really don’t see a problem with recruits getting something out of their training, my time in the PSNI depot earned me an HND in Policing. It only took 6 months. There was talk of being able to top it up to a full degree but that never came to fruition. There are two massive problems in terms of police recruitment and training for me at the moment. One is the length of time it will take for cops to land on shift and be useful and two is the training they’re receiving. Training now happens in corporate, stuffy classrooms that are deemed safe spaces and come with “trigger warnings”. N
    6 points
  6. The story has already gone AWOL from the Guardian website which is odd given how much attention they paid to the chorus of demands that our response was OTT and for the Commissioner to resign. I also not the lack of politicians coming out and eating their words. Where is the young Labour MP who immediately condemned the police response yet a week later wanted time to assess what had happened in Bristol? The HMIC have had two weeks to assess and reflect and have not found the police response to be wanting so where is that MP or even Sadiq Khan now?
    6 points
  7. Do you think anti lock down protesters are being gunned downed in the street with their civil democracy suspended for a military junta? No. Some people in the UK do not know what real oppression or a police state actually looks like, yet they kid themselves that they are living in one.
    6 points
  8. I think it is forgotten that we are not the moral guardians of society. Each citizen has the obligation to speak out against injustice and take action where they see discrimination or ignorance. Too much onus is placed upon us to educate and guide people, what are the department for culture doing, what are schools doing, what’s the local council doing......what is society as a whole doing to promote decency and harmony? Our core role has been eroded almost beyond repair, we constantly step up where other organisations shy away, shrug their shoulders and say “I dunno”. We spend more time
    6 points
  9. 6 points
  10. We just going to forget the fact that he was being arrested for affrey and possession of an offence weapon? Reasonable force is reasonable force, and in the heat of the moment sometimes knees goes places were they shouldn't. Is the suspect injured or even making a complaint or is this a result of others being offended on someone else's behalf...
    6 points
  11. The issue isn't whether racism exists, it always has and always will, the issue is whether racism exists at a legal, political, educational and economic level in the western world, and it simply DOESN'T, at least not against the black communities in the UK and US. The argument however can be made that it does exist against the white community when there are racial/diversity quotas in favour of minority communities that openly, directly and unapologetically discriminate against white candidates/students/employees etc. The concept that because one community represents a certain % of a popul
    5 points
  12. Am I the only one wondering how he trained the cats to pee in the water pistol?
    5 points
  13. I do wish the national service calls would finally go away. No idea why stuffing our military with a bunch of reluctant criminal children is supposed to be good for anyone. Properly funded education and social care? Likely to have a far greater impact. Our care homes are stuffed with children who the state have entirely failed across the board. They are just waiting to become victims or offenders and no one seems remotely appalled.
    5 points
  14. As @BizzieBeesays, policing has been in disarray since long before 2010. I joined in the early 1980s when policing was in disarray, but not as in as much disarray as it was in the more corrupt days of the 1970s and 1960s. Here are some ‘rules’ about policing that I have learned - you won’t find these in books: everyone knows how to police better than the officer doing the policing; it was better 10/20/30 years ago - this applies in any era; people support the police until they are engaged with the police; what is happening to me at this time is the most important and u
    5 points
  15. I think you and they mistake inconvenience for oppression.🤦
    5 points
  16. The hypocrisy in the media coverage has been staggering so far. Anyone would think that the likes of Kier Starmer, Jess Phillips or Ed Davey didn't all vote for the current coronavirus restrictions on the 6th January - in fact not a single Labour or Lib Dem MP voted against them. Yet now, apparently those same rules should be abridged for a cause they support? In case there was any doubt about this cause and its legality, someone actually found the time to go to the High Court ahead of time where Mr Justice Holgate refused to put the right to protest, which we may remind ourselves is a q
    5 points
  17. Be a professional witness, not a professional victim, unless you really need to go hands on and get involved. Clearly 999 is going to be the quickest way to get people to you, without PPE and an airwave. The international disco pass isn’t some sort of magic piece of plastic that is going to stop you getting battered sadly. Even the uniform isn’t enough to prevent that anymore.
    5 points
  18. I have been in long enough to see the wheel turn a few times and its currently, certainly in my area, at the bottom. I'm tired, lack any form of genuine leadership, we have dozens of new specialist units that don't do anything but have been taken from response numbers. Populated by sergeants who didn't have to apply, just got a golden handshake. I'm thinking about changing role, but I'm not sure which blazing skip I should jump into. I think I'm too institutionalised to break out elsewhere, especially after this year. I tell command we are short of staff, tired, overworked a
    5 points
  19. It was a convertible and he came out over the top!
    5 points
  20. Don't the MET use rigid cuffs and not pieces of wire with a long chain between? Why say he pulled out a revolver and then show an illustration of a gun that isn't a revolver? Why is there an armed American cop in the custody suite? How does the Daily Fail even still exist?
    5 points
  21. When I was a special myself and a colleague were called to some youths messing about near an electricity sub station. Upon arriving the youths were fine and not really doing anything but we could smell cannabis in the air and decided to search them. Three of the four youths were searched and didn't appear to have anything untoward on them, however the fourth youth looked really nervous and had a bright red face, suffice it to say me and my colleague were a little concerned so asked if there was anything on him that could hurt us, he replied no so I conducted the search. The search nearly compl
    5 points
  22. And we're done Thank you all for the grown up and informative contributions. Those of you that have derailed this whole thread you need to think about your contribution to the forum as a whole. You need to decide if you want to remain a member and engage properly otherwise you will find yourselves sanctioned and banned
    5 points
  23. Brilliant idea to buy the lights and then wonder at their legality! However, it reds that you intend to use them INSIDE the vehicle so you can pretty much do as you please with them, remembering that when the vehicle is moving they may be a distraction to the driver or mean the drivers fails to see a red/blue/green/ other light outside that ends up getting your 9 seater scratched. The easiest way to deal with it is have a read of the Road Vehicle Lighting regs (not before bed though). To avoid any hassle adopt the idea of no whites to the rear and no reds to the front. If you think of
    5 points
  24. Yes, it's a factual statement.
    5 points
  25. We've eroded British identity and imported an American one, kids grow up thinking British cops carry guns, we've somehow integrated their frankly shameful modern history into our own (I once had to correct a student on the history of Britain and how we never had government sanctioned policies on segregation i.e different buses or cafes for black people and that they're confused with US policy, they didnt believe me.) Were we perfect? No... No nation has been, especially one that led the world in the form of an empire/superpower, every modern nation has made mistakes but I hate the notion
    4 points
  26. This has nothing to do with the degree apprenticeship and those of you claiming "I told you so" are just desperate to find something to support your bias. GMP has recruited over 2000 new cops over the past 4 years on the IPLDP and is STILL recruiting and delivering that training and will be till next year. However, all the issues that were raised in the article (which started in Police Oracle not the DM) are rife here too. This has more to do with how younger generations think rather than anything to do with academia. If anything from personal experience those who already have a degree when th
    4 points
  27. See....it’s because they’ve never had DS an inch from their face screaming and shouting, questioning their parentage, threatening to drive a swagger stick between their ears and ride them around the square like a motorcycle! 😬
    4 points
  28. No **** Sherlock! Another foregone conclusion ? What did they expect? Most of them aren’t joining to be police constables, they’re joining to be managers!
    4 points
  29. Retailers may make large profits but they are still entitled to protection. Sadly the legislation is not the answer. Any legislation would be of no use as it is in the Courts hands to make sentences have an impact. They must stop accepting "Bleeding Heart" stories from the lawyers, not breast fed as a child, abused as a child, they have turned their lives around, they are no longer on drugs, etc, etc, etc. They must also stop giving different leniency to female offenders over male offenders. Treat them all the same.
    4 points
  30. So EROing case files then? Any public servant, especially medical staff should have offences committed against them highlighted and the court take appropriate action against offenders. That isn't the problem, the problem is a lack of adequate people in place to protect staff to begin with. Security at the NHS is woeful, they're often not even security but glorified parking wardens with a security uniform who refuse to intervene at the slightest hint of aggression let alone violence. I've been banging on about this for years, the railways has BTP, the Civil Nuclear industry ha
    4 points
  31. I bet politicians and journalists would be happy with a 58% approval rating let alone 75%, but no instead that is seen as something particularly bad, where we are vilified for doing our jobs and trying to disrupt criminal activity. I'm sure that there are some things that we can do better but equally we wouldn't need to stop and search so many IC3 males in inner city areas if young black men weren't being killed by other young black men at a disproportionate rate.
    4 points
  32. Should've cleared the street like the police told everyone to do.
    4 points
  33. If I found two or more of them there, I'd give the ringleader a £10,000 fine for organising a gathering. Much more than he'd get for the burglary.
    4 points
  34. They object because they don't want to be searched or because they had done something wrong so they were trying to distract me by causing a scene to stop me finding illegal items.
    4 points
  35. I'm sure the response from SLTs will be to get more funding and invest in officer morale by adding a TV and PlayStation 2 in the refs room for that one occasion every 9 months when front line cops get a chance to sit down for their 5 minute break and scoff a packaged sandwich whilst simultaneously doing a concern report for a verbal domestic and trying to link the 7 children and all their respective fathers to the report.
    4 points
  36. This was the biggest culture shock for me when I transferred down south as the model I worked under in Police Scotland was much better defined and implemented. Community Policing Teams were deployed to ALL calls that were not Grade 1s or 2s and handled all diaries/appointments, ASB, neighbour disputes and all non-ongoing crimes that were for 'slow-time enquiries. Response was purely for Grade 1s and 2s, to lock up, get statements, process prisoners at the station, get them charged and complete the case-file for their court appearance the next day. I worked both roles up there a
    4 points
  37. Well if you searched the forum Christopher you'd have seen the reality of the situation. A rural constabulary saw a mass influx of people into the area amounting to extra thousands on top of what they usually expect, you were effectively talking about an extremely small number of response officers and a couple of PCSOs going up against hundreds of people who were determined to enjoy the sun and breach the lockdown legislation. What exactly did you expect them to do? A better question would be why can't hundreds of people take some personal responsibility for themselves and th
    4 points
  38. The seven dwarfs heard about the change to only 6 people being allowed to meet together. One of them isn’t happy.
    4 points
  39. Sadly it's because you lack vision. Life under the heel of the EU was barely tolerable. Poverty, food banks, corruption and greed were rife. But not now! With our trade deals with Lichtenstein, Burkina Faso and our elite government who might get something right at some point we are once again a powerhouse of commerce. The negatives are only there if you look for them. If you don't look its fine.
    4 points
  40. As much as we make not like the result, unless there is a legal reason to appeal the outcome, let’s try and keep politicians out of the courts.
    4 points
  41. He said, with no sense of irony.
    4 points
  42. This is ultimately what happens when you placate to lawless behaviour time and time again. I feel people within our judiciary, many of our policing leaders and politicians have lost perspective to the balance of law and order. We've been losing control for years now, it is finally coming to a head.
    4 points
  43. Sticking my head over the parapet... An Immigration Officer has the power to detain any person they see committing or suspect of committing a criminal act. They can, as long as they are PST certified, use the appropriate techniques to restrain, detain and lock them up for 3 hours expecting the arrival of a PC. Trained officers, both Immigration AND customs trained have the same PPE/equipment as a PC. I'm on the Customs side of BF, have no interest in Immigration even though I am a designated immigration officer - that's just an irk of the job however... Don't be fooled by the fact
    4 points
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