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  2. Like many specials are in it for joining the regular constabulary (and not necessarily trying before they buy, but to almost guarantee they get the solid wage etc). I agree with you, but it may be interesting to see how the celebs handle stuff and if they are sworn in (bet they're not, do the training then shadow an actual officer) if they get any IOPC complaints!
  3. Today
  4. When I first heard about this I thought it was a joke. It will make a mock of the value that specials bring to policing. The celebs motivation for become a special will be money and raising their profile again, exactly what the role of a special isn’t. The only positive (and I mean that in the slimmest of terms) is that it may highlight the pressures, stresses officers are under and how savage the cuts really are.
  5. Not happy with this idea at all. It’ll be viewed as a bit of a joke, particularly if it is a channel 4 celebrity thing. It’ll just end up creating a circus and I don’t really believe that these celebs will be doing the real job nor will it be shown in that way. It’s nice in a way to try and highlight policing but I just can’t see it going well.
  6. Famous & Fighting Crime will give well-known rookies the chance to see what it’s really like on the beay, including football matches and busy Saturday nights https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/new-channel-4-show-features-11857556 I can't believe it. Who on earth authorised this?
  7. if your a call sign that expected to answer calls, then you should be double crewed. i can't remember a shift where i started and ended single crewed. like MerseyLLB i work is a busy part of the county and i'm often deployed to domestics single crewed with a promise of back up that rarely comes as all the other single crewed call signs are tied up.
  8. Intakes

    Great. I just couldn't find any info anywhere. Thanks
  9. Intakes

    And they’re defo going to continue recruiting. They’ve just got a whole lot in over Christmas that are currently going through Telephone interview. Going off of last year it’ll likely be Jan, March, May, July and October.
  10. Intakes

    May
  11. Intakes

    Hi all, Does anybody know if there will be any intakes after the march one? I know that it was planned for 500 per year but then all the payment problems came up.
  12. In order to find a solution you have to understand the cause, which is simple - cuts. Substantial re investment in the police would go along way to improve the welfare of officers
  13. Sounds like an out and out bully to me. However if the behaviour is out of character and manifested through stress then maybe a period of sick leave would have been worthwhile. If it is as reported I struggle to accept stress as an excuse for such behaviour and think he deserves everything that is coming to him.
  14. Giving every ex serviceman housing before any refugee is discriminatory. Those supporting such discrimination appear only to see the career servicemen who has served his country well returning with a chest full of medals. Would they think the same of the short service ex soldier who never saw active service. Kicked out of the army now a regular anti social drinker and drug taker who hangs around with the local scruffy drinkers giving grief to passes by and regularly arrested for shop lifting, public order and the odd assault on police?
  15. Carillion: Small firms count the cost of collapse By Russell Hotten Business reporter, BBC News 16 January 2018 Image copyright Reuters Thousands of small firms working for failed construction giant Carillion are waiting to learn if they will be paid, amid growing fears some could close. Carillion used an extensive network of sub-contractors and local suppliers, paying them almost £1bn a year, according to its latest annual report. Employers' groups are trying to assess the exposure of small firms, but said many faced financial hardship. It comes as critics step up calls for a review into the Carillion crisis. Britain's second largest construction firm, which employs 20,000 people in the UK, went bust on Monday with debts of about £1.5bn. Carillion's work stretched from the HS2 rail project and military contracts to maintaining hospitals, schools, and prisons. Although Cabinet Office Minister David Lidington said on Monday there would be government support for public sector contracts, those firms working on purely private sector deals would get only two days' support. Carillion spent £952m with local suppliers in 2016 and used an extensive network of small firms because, it said, "we remain wholly committed to generating regional economic growth and development". But the head of the Federation of Small Businesses said thousands of jobs and livelihoods were now at risk because those firms would be at the back of the queue for payment. Mike Cherry said it was a situation made worse because Carillion extended its payment schedule to suppliers last year. "These unpaid bills may well go back several months," he continued. "I wrote to Carillion back in July last year to express concern after hearing from FSB members that the company was making small suppliers wait 120 days to be paid." A partner at one accountancy firm, who asked not to be named, said small firms were looking at total losses stretching into hundreds of millions of pounds. "Asset sales won't even raise enough to cover the debts of senior bank creditors, so many small firms won't see a bean," he said. Rudi Klein, head of Specialist Engineering Contractor, an umbrella group representing suppliers to the construction industry, said Carillion outsourced virtually all its work. He said the government knew of Carillion's reliance on sub-contractors, but continued to award the company lucrative work despite growing concerns about its finances. "It's that supply chain who is going to bear the massive loss," he said. "There could be a large number of firms that will experience substantial financial distress." 'They've literally locked the gate' Carillion: Not alone in hitting problems Where did it go wrong for Carillion? Soldiers to schools - Carillion in UK public life Carillion collapse: What next? The boss of a Carillion sub-contractor, describing himself as Mike, in southern England, contacted the BBC with his own story. "We've invoiced them for £240,000, going back to September last year. I don't think we'll get this money back. "For us, it's a bad day, it'll impact us for the year. There are smaller contractors who will be impacted worse." He added: "We've always been struggling with the Carillion culture... Their procurement people weren't good and we didn't like working for them." Analysis: Dominic O'Connell, Today business presenter Lightning seems to strike the same place remarkably often in Britain's construction and support services sectors. For some, Carillion's demise will seem like a bolt from the blue. But look back 20 years and you find a surprising number of companies which struck similar problems, although not always with fatal consequences. Amey, Jarvis, Connaught, Rok, G4S, Balfour Beatty, Serco, Mitie - and many others - have had to own up to accounts that were, to use a euphemism, optimistic. Most lived to fight another day. Carillion did not. Talk to executives in the industry and they easily find the common thread. Companies that are built up quickly through acquisitions, as Carillion was from the combination of Tarmac, Wimpey, Mowlem and Alfred McAlpine - have an extra struggle first to understand then to integrate their disparate activities. Industry experts spoken to by the BBC also think that Carillion overpaid for its acquisitions, leaving it with less financial fat to fall back on when the going got tough. All the companies above were hurt by what turned out to be aggressive accounting. Read Dominic's full analysis here. On Monday, Mr Lidington said the government was stepping in to pay employees and small businesses working on Carillion's public contracts and assess the distribution of work among other companies. However, companies working on private projects will get no such support. Accountancy firm PwC, which is overseeing Carillion's liquidation, said in a statement: "Unless told otherwise, all employees, agents and subcontractors are being asked to continue to work as normal and they will be paid for the work they do during the liquidations." But there were anecdotal reports that work had stopped on many projects. A bricklayer on the new £350m Midland Metropolitan Hospital building, Philip Ellis, told the BBC that when workers turned up on Monday they were told to go home. He said: "About 20 of us working for our sub-contractor were told we could go on-site to collect equipment, but that was it.... I spent the day phoning recruitment agencies looking for work - but was told everyone's doing that." 'Watershed' Ministers held an emergency meeting on Monday evening to discuss the impact of Carillion's demise on public services. Mr Lidington said after the meeting that "people were turning up to work [and] we have not had any reports of serious interruption to service delivery". But it comes amid growing calls for a review of the way government hands out public contracts. Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn accused ministers of "shocking negligence", and said Carillion's crisis was a "watershed moment" for the "outsource first dogma" that had "fleeced the public". There is also mounting criticism of the pay packages enjoyed by directors in the run-up to Carillion's crisis. Former chief executive Richard Howson, in charged until last year when Carillion issued the first of three shock profit warnings, will continue to be paid until October. Mr Lidington told the Commons on Monday that the official receiver had the power to impose penalties if it uncovered any misconduct. View the full article
  16. I can't believe he actually thought about arresting the Deputy Chief Constable 😂
  17. Shackled children found in Perris, California home 16 January 2018 Image copyright Getty Images Image caption The parents are held on charges of torture and child endangerment Two parents have been arrested in California after police found 13 people allegedly being held captive at their home, including some "shackled to their beds with chains and padlocks". David Allen Turpin, 57, and Louise Anna Turpin, 49, were held on charges of torture and child endangerment. The 13 people - aged between two and 29 - were found in a house in Perris, 59 miles (95km) south-east of Los Angeles, police say. They are all believed to be siblings. Officers were alerted by one of the victim, who on Sunday managed to escape and call the emergency number "from a cellular device she found inside the house", the Riverside Sheriff's Department said in a statement. The girl - who police said appeared to be "only 10 years old and slightly emaciated" - claimed that 12 of her siblings were being held captive by their parents. Police officers later found "several children shackled to their beds with chains and padlocks in dark and foul-smelling surroundings". But the parents were unable to immediately provide a logical reason why their children were restrained in that manner, the police said. The officers were "shocked" to discover that seven of those held in the house were actually adults aged between 18 and 29. "The victims appeared to be malnourished and very dirty," the police said. All the victims are now being treated in local hospitals. View the full article
  18. 16 January 2018 The Minister for Policing and the Fire Service Nick Hurd will hear from experts and police officers on police wellbeing, today Tuesday 16 January and is aimed at looking at how the Government can help police chiefs in their statutory duty to manage the welfare of their officers. Vice-chair of the PFEW Chè Donald, who is also the lead on mental health and wellbeing for officers, will be attending the event, representing the experiences of rank and file officers. “Mental health issues for serving officers is an increasing concern for the Federation and the service overall,” he explained. “Resilience in the service is at an all-time low and officers are being put under inordinate amounts of pressure which is taking its toll on their health and wellbeing. “The unprecedented cuts to the police service have meant that officers are under more strain now than ever before as officers are being asked to do more and more with fewer resources and it has been inevitable that the increased pressures they’re facing have had an impact on their mental health and wellbeing. “While we welcome the event, it is long overdue. More needs to be done to tackle mental health issues across the board. Our own Police Federation survey of 17,000 officers in 2016 showed an alarming set of statistics around mental health of officers, with 39% seeking help with mental health issues – that cannot be right and Chiefs and the Government have to make a commitment to support officers in dire straits.” View the full article
  19. Yesterday
  20. Driver training !!!

    Let’s face it, all training costs money. However, if you want a team that can actually respond to incidents and be able to make progress where they can then it is a cost that the force has to bear. It is not a reward or some sort of gift that a supervisor can give out. It is something that is an operational need for response policing. Law training is pretty expensive too, As is OST, and First aid especially with abstractions. Maybe we need to reward the best officers with the tools they need to do the job and the ones deemed poor can just be left to it. Im really not sure where you’re going with this now, talking about advanced driving? Also, what is so confusing? An officer is out on their own in a car now as it is. They can still be first on scene to the same job I can go to on Blues. They would still have to deal with it. It just means they can get there rather than sitting behind traffic or waiting at red lights whilst someone is getting a shoeing or the suspect is making good their escape. Come on now, it isn’t that difficult to see what is being said here. Officers who are younger in service don’t have the chance to not go to certain calls or to wait for more experienced officers. They are single crewed a few weeks after being signed off independent. Whether that is right or wrong is a different topic.
  21. This seems very odd. I've had a few colleagues lose their cool, a skipper flip out on me and I've thrown my toys out the pram once on finding out officers had come into the Nick for hot refs rather than to my urgent assistance call. Assuming there's not more to it I might ask if this couldn't have been dealt with informally in giving the DCC an opportunity to seek some support and maybe some enforced leave. We're all human, we aren't perfect and I don't expect perfection from leaders - I expect humility. After all, if we talk of leading by example alot of the chief officer types joined the job drinking on duty, drink driving, cutting jobs and shunning domestic calls. Now unless they went serpico in their probation most of them have failed to lead by example through their entire careers and I accept that cultures change. Some however believe everyone must always be whiter than white.
  22. Driver training !!!

    In my personal experience advanced drivers have more polaccs than standard drivers fresh off their course. In my old force it was slightly perverse in so much as advanced drivers rarely got stuck on for driving mishaps yet standard drivers usually faced a panel... That's not to say that once the training wheels come off there aren't a few hairy moments as you settle into being a response driver.............................
  23. Dog Handler fitness Male/Female case

    Some of the articles reporting this said it was a 10 mile walk. I can't see it being a 10 mile run with a dog, that sounds crazy to me if that's the case. I take the point made by Rich. If the dogs they're expected to carry are all different weights then it's not a fair test and it would've made more sense for every candidate to carry a weight rather than an actual dog. Obviously something in the test was discriminatory, it's a shame the full facts won't be released and all we get is a sensationalist headline.
  24. Paedophile hunter live streams!

    It's not a possibility because if they're in any way trained or tacitly sanctioned by the police then they're effectively working for us and so would require the same RIPA authorities etc as if it were being done by a police officer. Otherwise it would effectively be a way of circumventing the rules around surveillance. There's also the question of whether we want to be associated with some of these organisations, which in most cases given their behaviour is a resounding no. Now that there's an offence of sexual communication with a child there is absolutely no longer any need for them to lure people into meetings; presenting their chat logs to the police would be sufficient to prove an offence on most occasions, yet they persist with staging dramatic confrontations to plaster all over the internet which only makes life harder for us from a safeguarding point of view.
  25. The EU Referendum Discussion Thread

    Does the collapse of Carillion call into question the judgement of the CEO who was one of the 100 signatories on a letter to the telegraph warning about Brexit?
  26. Paedophile hunter live streams!

    Like other have said I have reservations about these “hunters” and don’t think they do great deal of good. They appeal to the Jeremy Kyle type of audience and target the very small fry of offenders when it comes to online abuse. Leave it to the professionals. Resources may be tight but we’re doing a good job without the need for these type of vigilante.
  27. Driver training !!!

    Seriously? You never drove on blues and twos until you had passed your advanced? In my Force you could do blues and twos with your Panda Test - as described. Then you did 5 weeks standard course and you could be an Incident Car Driver or apply for traffic. Only traffic officers and some Incident Car drivers who wanted traffic ever did the Advanced course, which was another 4 weeks at the regional driving school.
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