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  2. Hello 2017PC On behalf of the Police Community Team I would like to personally welcome you to our forum. Please feel free to say hello and introduce yourself, tell us a little bit about you, what brought you to Police Community and what you hope to use the site for as we would love to hear. If you have any questions that you would like to ask the Police Community Team please feel free to drop one of us a message. Best Wishes Chief Rat
  3. Are the issues with Direct Entry Inspectors and above because there aren't very many of them? It would also be a but unfair (but inevitable) to compare an Inspector with 2 years service, to one who has 15 years service at all the intervening ranks.
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  5. I don't think any police officer thinks something should be done because we know better than the medical professionals. We think something should be done because our names are all over the job and if something does happen the story will go like this: MH Team - An internal investigation has found numerous failings in the way this incident was managed. Lessons have been learned and new training/policies/safeguards put in place. Ambulance - An internal investigation has found numerous failings in the way this incident was managed. Lessons have been learned and new training/policies/safeguards put in place. Police - The IPCC have investigated this incident and found numerous officers may have cases to answer for gross misconduct/criminal charges. We have also reviewed our processes and updated our training and policies. We're constantly told that doing something is better than doing nothing and if the medical solution is to do nothing then - somehow - that leaves the police wide open to criticism.
  6. It's a small point but lock knives are not offensive weapons per se. Simply case law has held that a folding lock knife is not exempt as a folding pocket knife under the CJA88 regardless of the length of blade. I am a broken record however the legislation in question covers screwdrivers, scissors, window punches...hell even stinger fits the definition.
  7. There's two ways to complete the same task and each has a different result. 1. Make CCTV/House to House enquiries of your own. If any lead comes to fruition pass this straight to the OIC. 2. Seize CCTV, take MG11s from witnesses you find and directly involve yourself in the investigation. 1 is ethical, lawful and commendable. 2 is stupid and will lose you your job and taint the case.
  8. Why thank you for such a touching comment. I wasn't too sure and I wouldn't like to work my hometown due to the fact I know too many idiots and bullies from school years to even be bothered with them. Could you clear another thing up for me. In recent years I've heard repeatedly that police more specific police Scotland reject 1st time applications on all basis to find out who the determined ones are that apply again. Is this true
  9. We had a very similar thread on here before. The key point is we have two issues at okay here which need addressing. 1. A female has self harmed causing minor injury. 2. The female is having some mental health crisis but otherwise has capacity. Regarding point 1, we have no powers where the females intent is self harm only. Regarding point 2, we should be ringing the local mental health team and not 'asking for their guidance', we should be making an on the spot referral. This is their job. Our job is to keep everyone at scene as safe as we can, uphold the law and act as the first point of contact. Clinical decisions are, by their nature, not a policing issue. If paramedics and the crisis team direct that they are not taking any intervention that is final. Who are we to suggest we know better about a mental health patient based on our 1 hour NCALT package on mental health? Something many police officers fail to understand is that unnecessary police intervention can often have a negative effect on a patient. We really should be butting out unless there is immediate threat to somebody's wellbeing and no-one else better placed at that time to intervene.
  10. Firstly, that's horrific and I for one am pleased that you found the courage to report this and elated that the person is now behind bars. Regarding the application I can't see an issue with it. There may be some caveats that, for example, you won't be posted to your home town or something (for your own protection) but that's a really big if and it's a couple of years down the line. You should not (and I can't ever imagine you would) be penalised or have an application deterred for being a victim of the worst crime out there. Well done on choosing the right path and for what it's worth I think you'll be an asset. Good luck! -Sherlock Sent from my iPhone using Police Community
  11. Hello PC284DD On behalf of the Police Community Team I would like to personally welcome you to our forum. Please feel free to say hello and introduce yourself, tell us a little bit about you, what brought you to Police Community and what you hope to use the site for as we would love to hear. If you have any questions that you would like to ask the Police Community Team please feel free to drop one of us a message. Best Wishes Chief Rat
  12. Hi there. Im due to submit my application in Aug when I'm 17 & 1/2 but there is one thing bothering me. Between the age of 14-15 I was sexually abused. At age 15 I reported to the police and the criminal is now 1 year into a 6 year prison sentence and on sex offenders for life Could my application be deterred on this basis ? Thanks
  13. Shame it's such a distance. Sent from my iPhone using Police Community
  14. The cargo "patrol" trousers are for general wear for, patrol officers. Tunic trousers are for, er tunics and special occasions. They are still issued, but only for specific occasions. The new hi-vis jacket is to be worn for patrol and is now the official jacket of choice. They don't like doing as they told?
  15. Do you know they've passed probation? The fast track guys I knew a few years back were promoted in less than two years (I don't know how that works) and I know at least one was pretty much protected from all criticism through their short period as a PC. Whilst they definitely served as a PC, it was in a very limited capacity.
  16. "This is an attempt, we believe, by violent dissident republicans to kill police officers but it was also very much an "anti-community act" as well, in terms of where it was located and the way in which it was left." No, it was an act of terrorism carried out by terrorists, but we're not allowed to say that, are we?
  17. Very true, the rota I'm with now make the job much better (even as a special) and the sergeants are both great, so I can see how that would have a big impact as a regular. I don't think it would be any riskier transferring. As either force could say we no longer have the funding or pull plug last minute, but I appreciate the analogy! Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
  18. You staying at Northwick? [emoji6] Sent from my iPhone using Police Community
  19. France elections: Macron-Le Pen though to run-off, projections say 23 April 2017 From the section Europe Related Topics France presidential election 2017 Image copyright AFP/EPA Image caption The two face a run-off next month The centrist Emmanuel Macron and far-right leader Marine Le Pen have won the first round of voting in French presidential elections, projected results say. Mr Macron won 23.7%, while Ms Le Pen won 21.7%, French TV says. The two saw off a strong challenge from centre-right François Fillon the hard-left Jean-Luc Mélenchon, according to the projections. The pair now face a run-off vote on 7 May. View the full article
  20. You can come and help me carry all my bags if you want!!
  21. 1. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. 2. Whether you enjoy your job or not depends largely on two things: your immediate supervisor and the team that you work with. Larger organisational factors have limited impact, except for the fact that if the organisation is large you might have more opportunities to move around.
  22. What made them terrible to work with? Surely their first week or two, they are settling into the post, and would take some time to get the swing of things? Training will only give you so much experience before the need to have a practical/hands on experience. I think that some people judge too quickly, and give people stick before seeing what the officer is really like. Sure I get that joining as a Inspector or a Super, you'd expect them to have some experience and able to lead, but like allow fresh officers, how many were nervous when they joined area for the first time? Meeting new officers, and having suddenly the responsibility that the rank comes with, after coming from a training environment. I see fast track a better option than direct entry, at least you know the officer has experience and has passed their probation period, compared to direct entry.
  23. Incase anybody wants to check their force out, here is a link: https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/hmic/peel-assessments/peel-2016/ Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
  24. Hi, I'm currently a special with Nottinghamshire Police, however I am just going through the final pre-employment checks with Derbyshire for regulars. Ive been given an opportunity to bring my start date forward by potentially 5-6 months, if I was to transfer my SEARCH score over to Notts Police as they are also recruiting now. I would not have to sit an in force interview either. However, as part of the process of weighing up my options, I noticed that on the HMIC PEEL assessment for 2016 Derbyshire were scored good, good, and outstanding. Where as Notts were rated requires improvement twice and good on one measure. Should I even be paying attention to these reports? I've been speaking to regulars at Notts and got back mixed opinions about whether I should stick with Derbyshire or transfer over. The only downside to Derbyshire is that all new probationers get put on LPU teams, where as in Notts you would be put on response. As a special I have only done response and found it the best way to learn and of course it's generally more exciting and what you joined up for (all the cack jobs aside). Unfortunately I've not had opportunity to speak to any regs from Derby. There's also the worry if I transfer I must withdraw my previous application and it could all go wrong last minute. Any opinions from serving officers on here in any of these two forces? Should I take into account the PEEL reviews? Would you consider transferring if you were potentially on LPU/NPT for two years as a new officer? Any advice welcome - thank you. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
  25. Anyone starting tomorrow residential at Northwick Park? If so, PM me if you need any assistance with travelling by tube to Spring House tomorrow morning! I'll be glad to help [emoji4] Sent from my iPhone using Police Community
  26. Hello regan765 On behalf of the Police Community Team I would like to personally welcome you to our forum. Please feel free to say hello and introduce yourself, tell us a little bit about you, what brought you to Police Community and what you hope to use the site for as we would love to hear. If you have any questions that you would like to ask the Police Community Team please feel free to drop one of us a message. Best Wishes Chief Rat
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