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  2. Really? What would be the point of tasering a dead body after having been shot dead by a firearms officer?
  3. I suspect that once you start living with the MIL you won't be able to get rid. If she is a control freak and is partial to a bit of emotional blackmail then you will never be able to move out until such a time that your relationship is over. Is it possible to rent a property near the MIL so that there is an extended family network close by? It all sounds very practical in terms of saving up for a deposit but some things you can't put a price on. If you move in with the MIL then there is potential that resentment will build up and this has the potential to do serious harm to your relationship. If you genuinely want to be with your partner in ten years time then do you feel that moving in with the MIL will make that less or more of a realistic prospect? I think that you need to put your foot down in a nuanced way. For what it's worth, your partner does seem like she can be influenced with a strong argument. Don't make this about you and the MIL, but more about how you want to bond with your child and be the best day ever. Through renting a family home together, you can provide a safe environment for your newly born's most formative infant months. In relation to the surname, why can't the child have a double barrelled surname? Sent from my iPhone usring Police Community
  4. Firstly, congratulations. Babies are brilliant and change your life forever. Secondly, yes it's a crummy situation with the MIL. The key to this is open and up front communication with all parties setting out clearly how you feel and why you feel that way. I'm certainly not agreeing with your MIL and I don't know what your relationship is like but it sounds like she's afraid of being lonely and left out: she's lost her husband and now may be losing a daughter (in her eyes). She's also excited about a grandchild and wants to be involved. I completely understand your concerns about privacy and a MIL can intrude on that. Babies are also hard work, however, very hard work. In-house childcare would be helpful beyond belief. Of course it all depends on your family dynamics as to whether you would be willing to put up with it. How big is the MIL's house? Is it big enough to get some person space? Does the MIL work? (If she doesn't it could let you and the other half get back out to work and not have to pay for childcare costs which are extortionate.) I can tell from your post that you certainly aren't keen on the idea but there are practical reasons why it might be a good idea - certainly in the short term. It just depends on whether these concerns are enough to make you swallow it. If you did move on set a strict deadline. Work out how much you need o save and the time period in which you can: say, a year or 18 months and then strictly stick to that. Renting can be a trap - it's wasted money at the end of the day and makes saving for a deposit much harder as rents are often higher than mortgage payments. 12/18 months really isn't long and if you can stand it (which is a big IF) and if you can live with no rent for a year or so you'd save a fortune then it makes financial sense. Dont get me wrong: I'm not in MIL's side - I don't know anything about your family dynamics - but there are practical benefits to her plan. If you want to stick with your girlfriend don't make her choose between you and her mum. You might not like the answer and it's bound to create a rift in your relationship even if the answer is the "right" one.
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  6. Wrong. If it's the most appropriate tool for the situation you better believe I'm going to use it early on. If I have the tools to defend myself, why on earth would I put myself more in harms way than I already am?
  7. Jeremy Corbyn 'determined to finish job' 26 February 2017 From the section UK Politics Image copyright AFP/Getty Images Jeremy Corbyn says he takes his "share of responsibility" for the Labour Party's recent by-election loss, but he is "determined" to stay on as leader. Writing in the Sunday Mirror, he says the party could "turn back the Tory tide" if members worked together. Mr Corbyn is set to give a speech to the Scottish Labour conference in Perth on Sunday. Deputy party leader Tom Watson told delegates on Saturday that now is "not the time" for a leadership contest. Analysis: Three problems for Labour The churn in Corbyn's shadow cabinet May hails 'astounding' by-election win The Conservatives won the parliamentary seat in Copeland from Labour in the first by-election gain by a sitting government in 35 years. Prime Minister Theresa May hailed the victory as "astounding", saying it showed her government was "working for everyone". In the other by-election this week, Labour retained its seat in Stoke-on-Trent Central, fending off competition from Ukip leader Paul Nuttall, who came second. 'We haven't done enough yet' Mr Corbyn said losing the seat in Cumbria - which had been held by the party for 80 years - was "deeply disappointing". He said: "Labour's share of the vote in Copeland has been falling for 20 years and of course I take my share of responsibility. "We haven't done enough yet to rebuild trust with people who have been ripped off and sold out for decades and don't feel Labour represents them." But he wants to remain leader and "take our message of economic renewal and fairness to every part of Britain". Mr Corbyn added: "I was re-elected... five months ago with a bigger majority and I am determined to finish that job; to reconnect Labour with our working-class voters and values so we can win power to rebuild and transform Britain for the many, not just the few." Mr Watson told part delegates on Saturday that he would not seek to "sugar coat" the loss in Copeland, but was not looking to oust the leader. "All of us with leadership roles in the Labour party need to have a long hard look at ourselves at what's not working," he said. "I have said it a lot recently - this is not the time for a leadership election, that issue was settled last year." Media captionTom Watson: "We have to do better, we cannot sustain this level of distance from our electorate."BBC political correspondent Carole Walker said Mr Corbyn's words were unlikely to reassure critics who fear they are heading for defeat at the general election under his leadership. They include David Miliband, who lost out on the Labour leadership in 2010. The former foreign secretary told the Times the party is at its weakest point in half a century and that he was "deeply concerned" for its future. The leader of trade union Unison, Dave Prentis, separately told the Guardian the by-election loss was "disastrous" and called on Mr Corbyn to "take responsibility" for what happens next. Gerard Coyne, who is standing to replace Len McCluskey as general secretary of the Unite union, said there was "no doubt" Copeland had been a "meltdown" for Labour. View the full article
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  9. I'd tell her it's time to grow up and make her own decisions not simply do what her mum tells her to. Might even get to the stage where you have to make her choose between her mum and you. rubbishy situation to be in though, I feel for you mate. Sent from my iPhone using Police Community
  10. UK terror threat 'at highest since 1970s IRA plots' 26 February 2017 From the section UK Image copyright Getty Images Britain faces a level of terror threat not seen since the IRA bombings of the 1970s, according to a new watchdog. Max Hill, the independent reviewer of terrorism laws, told the Sunday Telegraph Islamists were targeting UK cities. He credited the effectiveness of the intelligence services in limiting the level of threat to Britain. Mr Hill pledged to review anti-terror measures over concerns about any infringements of freedom. Mr Hill, who successfully prosecuted the failed 21/7 bombers and the killers of Damilola Taylor, said the so-called Islamic State was planning "indiscriminate attacks on innocent civilians of whatever race or colour" in UK cities, close to the scale of Provisional IRA attacks of the 1970s. Speaking in his first interview since being appointed to his watchdog role, he said there were distinctions in the "mindset" of the IRA 40 years ago and those under IS now. Lawyer to be new terrorism laws watchdog British suicide bomber behind Mosul attack But he added: "I think the intensity and the potential frequency of serious plot planning... represents an enormous ongoing risk that none of us can ignore. "So I think that there is undoubtedly significant ongoing risk which is at least as great as the threat to London in the 1970s when the IRA were active on the mainland." He highlighted the numbers of British people travelling to Iraq and Syria to fight for IS. "It's an enormous concern that large numbers - we know this means at least hundreds of British citizens who have left this country in order to fight - are now returning or may be about to return". Image copyright Home Office Image caption Max Hill will report annually to Parliament on the state of UK terror laws In his interview, he defended ministers over compensation to ex-Guantanamo Bay detainee Jamal al-Harith, who later carried out a suicide bomb attack in Iraq. 'Risk not detectable' Mr Hill said ministers who approved a reported £1m of compensation for al-Harith - formerly known as Ronald Fiddler - could not have known the man would later join IS. Al-Harith, 50 and from Manchester, was sent to Guantanamo Bay in 2002. Earlier this month, IS said he detonated a car bomb at an Iraqi army base in Tal Gaysum, south-west of Mosul. Media captionUK bomber's path from Guantanamo Bay to Mosul"[Ministers] are to be called to account if in error taxpayers' money is paid to an individual who actually represents a significant risk to our national security through terrorist activity here or abroad," said Mr Hill. "But they cannot be held to account for a risk that was simply not present, not visible, not detectable at the time of the payout." View the full article
  11. Some good things and some not so good things. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  12. Hello Seymourdavies On behalf of the Police Community Team I would like to personally welcome you to our forum. Please feel free to say hello and introduce yourself, tell us a little bit about you, what brought you to Police Community and what you hope to use the site for as we would love to hear. If you have any questions that you would like to ask the Police Community Team please feel free to drop one of us a message. Best Wishes Chief Rat
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  14. Not heard of PC Williams before, sad story but thanks for sharing.
  15. A view from 'the other side'! I'm 'allowed' to single crew. I've been a special for over 3 years, and have seen others aim for independence so they can single crew and swagger about on their own. This, to me, is the wrong attitude. Whenever I book on I wouldn't say I worry if I end up being, but it's far, far better I think if I am not. Not just for me who doesn't have the experience, even 3 years in, but also better for the colleague I'm paired with, for the reasons simonT mentions. I can handle a lot of jobs, but obviously not to the extent that a reg can as I only work maybe 25 hours a month. Specials have a reputation. Some don't like us, some tolerate us, some see us as an asset for which we may be. I've worked with specials I wouldn't trust in any situation, and have seen some back off from helping me in fights, so I know our repupation is sometimes deserved. It goes without saying though that I have worked with others who are awesome at the job. My S/INSP is a career special and she knows the job inside out. At the end of the day, if I can back up a colleague - doesn't matter who - and back them to the hilt and enable them to do their job better, either through paperwork, sitting on a cordon, or just getting stuck in when I need to and not shying away from a grapple - whatever - then I go home happy. Ish...! I'm not being humble as such, I know that I'm basically an extra pair of hands if things go south, and anything else I can offer is hopefully a bonus to the person I'm crewed with. We single crew here because a lot of the time we have to. It's wrong. We had a colleague stabbed a bit ago. Probably could have been avoided, but that's not really for me to say.
  16. I'm sure that you, @Zulu22, were a model of humble self-restraint and old fashioned courtesy. However, it's a bit of a generalisation to tar all 'current day officers' with the arrogant brush.
  17. Hello MPS_999 On behalf of the Police Community Team I would like to personally welcome you to our forum. Please feel free to say hello and introduce yourself, tell us a little bit about you, what brought you to Police Community and what you hope to use the site for as we would love to hear. If you have any questions that you would like to ask the Police Community Team please feel free to drop one of us a message. Best Wishes Chief Rat
  18. Hello mps_99 On behalf of the Police Community Team I would like to personally welcome you to our forum. Please feel free to say hello and introduce yourself, tell us a little bit about you, what brought you to Police Community and what you hope to use the site for as we would love to hear. If you have any questions that you would like to ask the Police Community Team please feel free to drop one of us a message. Best Wishes Chief Rat
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  20. I've done this many times and will gladly wait for the local authority for that road to turn up, examine it and either remedy the issue or take responsibility for the risk. Never had a problem yet and I've closed some major routes at key times. Reading the report it does say that the HA felt that the ice would have melted by the time they get there. I assume they're weather experts and know all about micro climates and other such road related issues. I'm not certain that Highways Agency cover the A413? The officers have got a hard task. On the one hand they're being told it will melt before the glitter gets there, so they'd probably be inclined to open the road as keeping it closed is going to get them criticised... and probably stuck on. Where was the Sgt or the Inspector? They should be backing their officers up.
  21. Hello Police family, I posted a while ago that I'm expecting a baby in August. But since then I've had grief and been sad a few times, not ashamed to admit. I need advise on what others would do in my situation, I feel like I'm doing everything I can to benefit my girlfriend and myself, and our child when it arrives. Here's why I need advise .. To cut a LONG story short, I believe my girlfriends mum is being a domineering control freak, and my girlfriend is listening to her absolute garbage ideas. Firstly, i found a house that we could move into and make into a home ready for baby. Mother in law however, wants me to move into her house to "save up money for a deposit". Yes, logically that would be a good idea to save money up for a deposit. I demanded that we should get our own family home and have our privacy, as it's all part of the experience of having your first child. And why would we really want to live with parents with our first child? We want our own house, because we are our own family. Mother in law has also told girlfriend that I am "welcome to come and visit the baby whenever I want" because she doesn't agree to us getting a place just yet. Therefore she's basically saying my girlfriend has to stay at home with the baby for a while. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I AM NOT BEING A VISITOR TO MY OWN CHILD!!! Mother in law has also told girlfriend to ask me if the child can have her surname in remembrance of her father who passed away many years ago. As much as I appreciate the sentimental value and it being heart warming for them, that along with the above problems and others, is making me feel like I'm being seriously pushed away and excluded. Originally my girlfriend was really excited for moving in with me, but after discussions with M-I-L she seems to have changed her mind.. they've even gone as far as completely redecorating her bedroom and clearing all the rubbish out - and I strongly suspect this is preparation for when the baby arrives. This is annoying me and my mum. I just feel rubbish. Everytime I try to voice how I feel she thinks I'm being a fool, but I should be heard! At the end of the day, me and my girlfriend have been good as good, absolutely perfect for eachother. But I anticipate this will turn sour and and that's something I really don't want
  22. Based on that logic everytime it's icy the police should shut off ALL the roads. Traffic lights out? close the road. Winter sun dazzling? Close the road. The issue was with the driver not driving to the conditions. Also they DID ask for gritters but it was declined AND it's been agreed that even if they did turn out it would've made NO difference. So the issue is how firmly they asked for a resource from a partner agency. Finally, what if they did block the road but gritters still refused to attend. Then what?
  23. I think you mean 'old school cops' not 'current day' because we're still dealing with the huge **** ups you left us with. Public cofidence is at an all time low (though still good I'll accept) because of incidents that happened whan many cops, including myself, were either not born or still in school. The difference now is every mistake is worldwide in seconds not uncovered decades afterwards. Besides which now everyone's an armchair critic.
  24. The railways companies did in fact have Constables which made up their Private Police Forces with powers limited to the Railways Property and a few other private places. There are not a Police Force which comes under the Home Office Control. They gained more powers under the Transport Police Act 1994, and yet more powers under the Railway Transport Act 2003. That was because their powers although huge in many respects applied only to Railways Property. I think it was when Phillip Hammond was a minister that he made legislation permitting the Railways Police BTP" to become armed. There is a history in many places but have been moves afoot to merge with Home Office Forces. Quote: Proposed mergers[edit] Although the British Transport Police is not under the control of the Home Office, and as such was not included as part of the proposed mergers of the Home Office forces of England and Wales in early 2006, both the then London mayor Ken Livingstone and then head of the Metropolitan Police Sir Ian Blair stated publicly that they wanted a single police force in Greater London. As part of this, they wished to have the functions of the BTP within Greater London absorbed by the Metropolitan Police. However, following a review of the BTP by the Department for Transport, no changes to the form and function of the force were implemented, and any proposed merger did not happen.[90] There are also ongoing proposals backed by the Scottish government for BTP's Scottish division (D Division) to be merged with Police Scotland. Scotland's Justice Minister has stated: "It's been the Scottish government's view that [transport policing] would be better if it was integrated into Police Scotland given that it would sit alongside our national police service." However, criticism of this proposal has risen due to lack of consultation including the effects on the future of BTP as a force as well as the continued specialist nature of railway policing should the merger go ahead. The proposal came about after it was recommended by the Smith Commission on further devolution & included in draft legislation with the UK Government stating "how rail transport is policed in Scotland will be a matter for Scotland once the legislation is passed". BBC News report that "BTP could become part of Police Scotland by the end of 2016".[91] Maybe this will be considered by any Royal Commission. But we know what tends to happen with various reviews, just think Sir Tom Winsor as an example.
  25. When I was serving my wife always accused me of standing up for the Police, no matter what, and I did. However since retirement I have mellowed a little and can see when officers have made a mess of things. Believe me it does still hurt to criticise officers when so many do the job so outstandingly well. However what I have said before is that the current day officer has an arrogance and a mindset that they can do no wrong, that they are right and the public are always wrong. It helps to take note of criticism before waving it blandly away. But we are not going to see eye to eye on this issue
  26. I don't think that these Officers should be sacked but I also don't think that what happened can be dismissed as one of those things. There were a series of errors, which may have resulted from the Officers not having the specific skills or training to investigate an accident in such circumstances. In addition, they may have lacked the confidence to insist on certain measures are put in place. Yes, you can't order the Highways Agency to grit a road but you can tell them that there is a high probability of a further accident taking place and the onus is then on them. The issue is perhaps not with the Officers themselves but with the organisation- there was a lack of a protocol or operational procedure in place to cover such a situation. That is the lesson learned. If there is a crash as a result of ice in the future then there there are clearly a number of factors that must be taken into consideration as part of a risk assessment. If I were to compare the police to the NHS, there are several unnecessary deaths each day in the NHS but significantly less per year as a result of police inaction or mishandling of incidents. In the NHS, organisations learn and individuals face proportionate action. In the police service, organisations rarely learn and individuals face disproportionate action. On a personal level, I have spent hours guarding breakdowns, fallen trees or other debris to protect road users until such a time as the road became safe. I'm surprised that the Officers just drove off and left the scene. But I am not calling for their blood, Sent from my iPhone usring Police Community
  27. Single crewing is gutting. I personally hate it. Everything is harder and less safe. As a double crew I can get work done so much faster. Single I have to slog through everything piece by piece.. And I have the knowledge that at any point someone could bash me over the head from behind and that's it, I'm done. And the oh so fun risk assessment outside a violent domestic. Single crewed, know you have no backup, know you need to do something or you will be up for gross misconduct for not doing the right thing, but still wanting to go home to see your family.
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