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  3. Five people killed in helicopter crash in Snowdonia 30 March 2017 From the section Wales Image copyright Google Five people have been killed in a helicopter crash in north Wales. A massive air and land search was launched on Wednesday after the aircraft vanished en route from Luton to Dublin. Supt Gareth Evans of North Wales Police said on Thursday the crash site had been located and the bodies of all five people on board had been found. A mountain rescue team found the wreckage in the Rhinog mountains between Trawsfynydd and Harlech. The privately-owned helicopter vanished from radar contact while over Caernarfon Bay. Police said they were not aware of any plan for the helicopter to stop in Caernarfon as part of its route. Formal identification of the bodies has not yet taken place and the coroner for north west Wales, Dewi Pritchard-Jones, has opened an investigation. Police have not revealed the exact location of the crash as the bodies have not been recovered from the "remote and hazardous" terrain. Family of those killed have been informed and an investigation into the crash is being led by the Air Accident Investigation Branch. View the full article
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  8. tbpolice, I am recently retired now from the specials and although I might get shot down in flames for saying it I'm going to say it anyway.I was given one of those long cuff keys on a retractable wire, it worked a bit like that one on Grants watch, but went on the belt, (fortunately I was never strangled with it ). It was given to me as a parting gesture by a special when I was gathering together his stuff etc upon him leaving for pastures new . Although I probably wouldn't have bought one he wanted me to have it and I actually found it most useful for quite a few years,especially during handcuff training mainly, double locking/taking the cuffs off your" prisoner" in the gym etc. For as long as I can remember I always had one of those little cuff keys on my car key ring as a backup. I don't think I ever carried a pocket knife on duty although one of our specials had a multi tool in his holdall type bag. I remember him hunting around in the bottom of it one night when we were out in the back of beyond,he eventually found it after a few minutes. I bought one of those torch holders on the internet for my small torch so it would be held into a normal click fast type holder on my tac vest , it was a bit like one of the mountings for a telescopic sight if you know what I mean.That was one of my better buys without a doubt, the new torch virtually superseded my three cell maglite overnight and which I eventually took home and parked up. Apart from a couple of pairs of rubber gloves which I acquired from somewhere and a few Elastoplasts which I keep in a little black pouch which was issued for such use together with a face mask donkeys years ago that's pretty much it. I had a clip board as well with a little torch on it which I managed to construct/put together so I could see what I was writing without dazzling the driver if that counts. Of course it may all have been quite different if I had been doing the job full time, I might even have had one of those big carry bags, as it was I just used the bag my armour came in when I needed to. Happy hunting. Rich.
  9. Trump travel ban: Hawaii judge places indefinite hold 30 March 2017 From the section US & Canada Image copyright Getty Images Image caption The revised travel ban has drawn protests across the US A US federal judge in Hawaii has indefinitely extended the suspension of President Trump's new travel ban. Judge Derrick Watson's ruling means Mr Trump will be barred from enforcing the ban on six mostly Muslim nations while it is contested in court. In a lawsuit, the US state says the ban would harm tourism and the ability to recruit foreign students and workers. President Trump says his revised travel ban seeks to prevent terrorists from entering the United States. Image copyright AP Image caption Judge Watson turned his earlier temporary restraining order into a preliminary injunction Judge Watson made the ruling late on Wednesday after hearing arguments from attorneys for the state of Hawaii and the US Department of Justice. The judge turned his earlier temporary restraining order into a preliminary injunction that would have a more lasting effect. President Trump's executive order on 6 March would have placed a 90-day ban on people from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen and a 120-day ban on refugees. An earlier version of the order, issued in late January, sparked confusion and protests, and was blocked by a judge in Seattle. Other courts across the US have issued different rulings on Mr Trump's revised ban, with a judge in Maryland halting a part of the ban earlier this month. Mr Trump has complained of "unprecedented judicial overreach", pledging to take the case "as far as it needs to go". An appeal against the Hawaii decision would be expected to go next to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals - the same court which in February said it would not block a ruling by a Seattle court to halt the original travel ban. Five questions on new US travel ban Who does the travel ban affect? Under the revised order, citizens of six countries on the original 27 January order - Iran, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen - would once more be subject to a 90-day travel ban. Media captionNew US travel ban: What's different?Iraq was removed from the list because its government had boosted visa screening and data sharing, White House officials said. The revised order also lifts an indefinite ban on all Syrian refugees and says Green Card holders (legal permanent residents of the US) from the named countries will not be affected. FBI 'terror probe' for 300 refugees Detained Afghan family set for release A 'Trump slump' for tourism? View the full article
  10. On me I have an extra set of chain link cuffs in vest, torch, multi-tool, long cuff key, drop key and one of those window punch/seat belt cutter tools. On NTE/arrest enqs/warrants I also carry leg restraints.
  11. Yup, very similar responses. Even on the odd occasion I have managed to get the issue dealt with by a partner agency they have insisted it be a joint visit. I don't mind too much for some, in fact often it's a good method to work together. But the issue for me is I am a response officer and it can be a hard sell to supervision who ask, quite rightly sometimes, but why do you need to go? I have found though that in my force half of the battle is working against the status quo. If other officers have been dealing with incidents without partners for years...I come up against resistance from both police and partner agencies. Slowly getting there, one battle at a time!
  12. So there are no misconduct charges relating to use of force and charges of GBH were not considered by CPS? So it doesn't seem that there was evidence of police causing his injuries? we will probably find out what has happened at the misconduct hearings in a years time!
  13. Google tells me it's an Aeryon SkyRanger (£50k!). Used it to clear rooftops on high and dangerous buildings during misper searches and a report of someone seen on a roof, and to monitor a suicidal male threatening to jump. It could be used to check innaccesible or large open areas. I don't think they'd turn out to try and locate suspects but I've never tried asking. There's only one too, so it's not always available and you sometimes have to wait. Drones are still a pretty new thing. Not so long ago they were only used by the military, and we're huge and expensive. Now you can go to maplins and buy ones that'll fit in your backpack with a 4k camera capable of 4 mile range and 40mph for £1k. I think in the future, something like a Dji Mavic with a thermal imaging camera could easily be issued out, maybe one or two on each division, with a few trained officers.
  14. I'm interested as to the incidents you've used them for and how you got round the issues. Do you know which drone the Fire Brigade use?
  15. Brexit sovereignty plan set out in Great Repeal Bill 30 March 2017 From the section UK Politics Related Topics Brexit Image copyright Getty Images The government will set out how it plans to remove EU law from the statute book later by publishing details of its Great Repeal Bill. Having formally triggered Brexit, ministers are promising a "smooth and stable transition" with legislation ending the supremacy of EU judges. It will also incorporate thousands of pieces of EU law into UK legislation. The publication comes the day after the UK started two years of talks using Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty. Kuenssberg: Reading between the lines Article 50: What happens now? BBC editors: The key issues for negotiation Prime Minister Theresa May described the invoking of Article 50 as a "historic moment from which there can be no turning back", saying Britain would now make its own decisions and its own laws. Key to this pledge is the Great Repeal Bill, which ministers say is essential to avoid a "black hole" in the law when the UK leaves the EU. The UK Parliament can then "amend, repeal and improve" the laws as necessary, the government says. However, it could prove controversial with plans to give ministers the power to make changes to some laws without full Parliamentary scrutiny. The government says this will only be for "mechanical changes" to ensure laws function properly. 'A unique challenge' The Great Repeal Bill, which Theresa May has said will make the UK an "independent, sovereign nation", would: Repeal the European Communities Act, which says EU law is supreme to the UK's Ensure the UK leaves the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice Transpose existing EU legislation into domestic UK law It would come into force the day the UK leaves the EU The Commons library anticipates it will be "one of the largest legislative projects ever undertaken in the UK" A Lords committee described it as a "unique challenge", with EU having accumulated over decades Read more: A guide to the Great Repeal Bill Brexit Secretary David Davis said: "At the heart of the referendum decision was sovereignty. A strong, independent country needs control of its own laws. That process starts now. "Converting EU law into UK law, and ending the supremacy of lawmakers in Brussels, is an important step in giving businesses, workers and consumers the certainty they need." The TUC urged the government to ensure the repeal bill was used to maintain all existing EU workers' protections. Media captionTheresa May statement on Article 50 Media captionDonald Tusk: 'We miss you already'Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty gives both sides two years to reach agreement so, unless the UK and the 27 remaining EU member states agree to extend the deadline for talks, the UK will leave on 29 March 2019. It was invoked through a six-page letter from Mrs May to EU Council president Donald Tusk, promising the UK would remain "committed partners and allies". The PM called for a "deep and special partnership that takes in both economic and security cooperation", and also warned the failure to reach a deal could weaken the joint fight against crime and terrorism. Meet the people who will negotiate Brexit In quotes: Reaction to Article 50 All you need to know about Brexit In response, Guy Verhofstadt, the European Parliament's chief Brexit negotiator, said he would not accept any attempt to "bargain" between trade and security. Mr Tusk, who told the UK "we already miss you" as he received Mrs May's letter, is expected to set out the EU's draft negotiating principles in the coming days. In a brief statement on Wednesday, he said it was not "a happy day" for him or for the EU and promised to begin arrangements for the UK's "orderly withdrawal". The EU's formal negotiating position will be agreed only at a summit of the remaining 27 member states at the end of April, meaning face-to-face discussions are unlikely until May or early June. Image copyright Reuters Image caption Pro-Brexit campaigners celebrated after Article 50 was invoked Early issues are likely to include the rights of expats in the UK and the rest of the EU, the size of any severance payment required of the UK and whether talks on a new trade deal can be handled at the same time as the Article 50 negotiations. In a BBC interview after her Commons statement, Mrs May insisted the UK could keep "the same benefits" in terms of trade despite leaving the EU single market. Labour's Jeremy Corbyn said his party would be holding the government to account "all the way through", promising to "speak for the entire country". View the full article
  16. 30 March 2017 Police officers are going sick or reporting for duty despite being physically or psychologically unwell, and many are using leave days to recover from illness. And stigma around mental health could be masking the true number of officers who are going sick or soldiering on while too unwell to work. The Police Federation of England and Wales (PFEW) surveyed 16,841 officers across 43 forces in February 2016, which found that two fifths (58%) of respondents missed one or more days through sickness in the previous 12 months. Of these, 29% attributed at least one day of their sickness absence to stress, depression or anxiety. In addition to looking at absenteeism, the 2016 PFEW Officer Demand, Capacity and Welfare Survey studied ‘presenteeism’, which is the act of attending work while ill, and ‘leaveism’, where officers use annual leave or rest days to recover from illness. The vast majority of respondents (90%) admitted to working on one or more occasions while not well enough physically, and 65% worked while not feeling up to it mentally. Some 59% of respondents had used leave or holiday to get over a bout of physical or psychological ill-health. Jason Kwee (pictured), who chairs the Police Federation of England and Wales’ Health and Safety Sub Committee, said the results are not surprising given the 14% fall in officer numbers over seven years. Numbers have declined from a high of 143,734 in 2009 to 122,859 in September 2016, according to the Home Office, and this has placed increased pressure on remaining officers. Mr Kwee commented: “The stigma which surrounds stress and mental health could be masking the true scale of the problem. How many absences that are labelled physical illness are actually due to stress? For example someone under pressure will have knock on the wrist or ankle and go sick but the real reason is an underlying mental health issue. “The alarmingly clear message of the welfare survey is that forces are under pressure and the cuts have had – and continue to have – an impact on delivery and on officers’ lives. Every additional absence from stress further adds to the burden on those still at work.” He added that there are inconsistencies across forces in the level of welfare support they provide to officers and this needs to be improved. At the same time, those who feel stressed, depressed or psychologically unwell should be encouraged to seek help and be supported by their force. Mr Kwee said: “Policing is a vocation where officers are proud to serve their communities and will often do so at the risk to their health. They will come in and carry on regardless and that is not healthy. It is a sad reflection on the service that officers are using leave and rest days to recover from illness. There are not enough hours in the day but officers need down time and to switch off from work for their health and well-being.” He added that PFEW is awaiting the publication of the NPCC Wellbeing Charter and will encourage forces to embrace it. View the full article
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  18. Cable ties in a pocket in my vest. Useful for keeping doors open for other cops/ambulance crews, temporarily fixing cars and all manner of other tasks!
  19. Custody sergeant has to authorise the detention and it responsible for the detainee. The DDO can do the physical inputting of data into the system, however.
  20. In addition to issued PPE I have a torch, pouch with gloves/anti bacterial handgel, long cuff key, ResQMe. Up to recently I had a multitool as well but that's staying in my locker until the court case re the officer charged for carrying one is over
  21. I carry my normal PPE, also have kydex g36 mag pouch which clips on and off for when I am carrying a long arm. In terms of other stuff, I used to carry a full sized kitbag with all manner of bits and bobs, full hiviz waterproofs (jacket and bottoms) full green waterproofs (jacket and bottoms), jumper, soft shell, first aid kit, a couple of books, traffic wand, two boxes of nitrile gloves. Basically all manner of rubbish. Ive since put together a patrol folder with all my forms and tickets together, a couple of sets of gloves, including leather ones and a set of protective eyeglasses for MOE or stinger. I tend to just chuck my hiviz and cap in the backseat with my folder. Kit I want: taser
  22. Other than PPE (No Taser by choice) Leatherman multitool, Tachograph download/card reader and cable. P7 Torch Tachograph printout paper roll. Radio removal clips. 4 pens. In bag : Job Laptop + printer Fleece High vis outer jacket + trousers FPN folder Prohibition forms Jump leads (used hundreds of time) Winter bennie hat White Traffic Cap 2 Bottles of water + biscuits. Clip board. Sent from my PLK-L01 using the Police Community App
  23. I'm with Northumbria Police, what a stupid, ludicrous idea. Common sense would tell any moron that.
  24. I just watched an episode of "The Force: Essex" on Youtube. I was surprised to see a Deteniton Officer booking a suspect in. It looked like a small custody suite and it didn't look like there was a custody sergeant there. I didn't think this was allowed, I thought a custody sergeant had to authorise detention. What was going on and is it common? Link to episode:
  25. On me is my own torch, spare battery, a very low power pen-sized torch for map reading/PNB whilst going to jobs, some aide memoires, leatherman, Israeli bandage, lots of gloves already paired so I'm not grabbing a bunch and dropping them all over the place. Lots of pens. We get issued restraints and a long cuff key. in my car bag it tons of paperwork (no Samsung for me yet ), more batteries, more pens, more first aid kit, traffic book, pain killers and indigestion pills, bottle of water, USB car and wall socket, phone lead and probably a good few other things I can't recall right now evidence and custody bags on me too, with spares in my bag. Handy for searches. Scrote gel too. edit, also an A-Z, in case sat navs die. I come from a time before digital navigation, and can read a paper map whilst being thrown around a vehicle by a crazy driver! edit 2, I missed reading half of Simons post. I too have trauma kit in my bag, with shears, tourniquet and more Israeli bandages. I carry them at work, and transfer to my duty bag.
  26. Being dragged off your feet by a car is no fun whatsoever. It's terrifying. The one time I lost my cool as a police officer was after such an incident. Thankfully a much larger Trojan officer was on hand to gently guide me away from the acne rafter we finally cornered the bloke. I would have lost my job if I hadn't been pulled back from approaching the guy. I tried to stop a car and he drove off with me half in his window. Thankfully I was unhurt and returned to the area car and gave chase. The guy was boxed in my armed officers and traffic cars and tasered. The guy was moaning about being tasered and upon hearing this I went ballistic and screamed at him that he could have f***ing killed me. I was walking towards him when a Trojan officer put his arm around me and gently but firmly steered me away and told me to sit back in my car to cool down.
  27. I had to ditch my restraints in favour of a taser and my first aid pouch has 6 pairs of gloves and 2 resuscitation shields. I also have an Israeli bandage and spit hood, antibacterial foam and a bunch of pens. And a resqme, leatherman, many good pens, spare cuff key and probably some other stuff. My kit bag has a larger first aid kit with resuscitation mask, trauma bandages scissors and a tourniquet. A taser deployment kit is zip tied to the side. I also have torch, energy warm fleece a screwdriver and screws.
  28. The Tyne isn't a forgiving river. Plenty of people have drowned in it over the years. plus, there's dormant cholera in there.............
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